shipping a bike from Dili to Darwin in March 2014
 

hi, I`m going to ship my bike from Dili to Darwin next month. Does anybody have the same decision? We could share a price.

Alex

You mean to say DELHI (India)?
 

Are you talking about Delhi (india) . let me know so tht i cn help u out?

G'day Alex, let me know when you get to Darwin bier

yes! sure! but it goes slowly usually.

no) Dili meams Dili in East Timor.

i will come there on same situation for about 1.5-2 years...so I'm curious about price...
do you plan to go with plane or together with bike on ship?

Dili (East-Timor) to Darwin (Australia) shipping is only possible with container ship. They do not take passengers to these boats, so you need to fly.
This is the only option.

Attachment 11943
there is a shipping schedule attached from Dili to Darwin. I still haven't got any companions to share the container. The best option is 22/03 Time Spirit but I'm not in time for this. So the next one on 07/04 is more preferable.

Alex

Timor Leste - Dili to Darwin Shipping Motorcycles
 

Ok Guys, here's the wood yet again !

Ocean Freight USD360.00 per motorbike (incl. the BAF)
Container Service Fee USD 60.00 per motorbike
East Timor Tax 2.64% of the freight
Document Collect Charge USD 30.00 per Bill of Lading

The vessel is a barge, you must clean your bike to perfection, you do not have to hire a whole container, your bike will not be considered urgent and delays are common. Bribes in Dili work :-)

Toll Group - Global Logistics Provider - Toll Marine Logistics - Shipping schedules

place to stay and clean the bike in Dili?
 

the homestay address I got on HUBB is already rented for a long stay. The bakpakers hostel have had some problem with a bikers and don't allow us to do our dirty work anymore, right?

Alex

We stayed at Villa Verde hotel. They were really great with letting us clean & tinker there.

G'day Alex,

I have a spare room and a very well equipped workshop, just let me know your arrival date.

Cheers Dave

Hi

Have you tried Perkins Shipping (may now be called Toll?) In 2011 we wheeled our bikes on, no hassle and no need to fill /pay for a whole 20ft space, you just pay for volume used

Good luck

Thanks Dave! Looks like I need a new battery for my bike. Have you got a email from me already? I'm in Larantuka now. Eastern port of Flores. The last jump to Kupang on Monday.

Alex

Sure, I keep in touch with them. The next ship on 22-24 of March. I want to be in time. The only bike cleaning takes a couple of days!

Alex

could you send me a coordinates of this place? how expensive is this place?

Villa Verde Hotel
Rua Antanio Hritor, Dili, Timor-Leste
http://goo.gl/maps/02g34

Not sure how to do coordinates? We paid $40/night. Internet & a couple of laundry items per day were included. Plenty of room to dry hand washed stuff. They also had a hose and bin they let us use for working on the bikes & scrubbing the parts. (we went and got a surface wash first). We were there for at least 10 days so we negotiated the rate.

I was happy to pay the extra money for a comfortable room. We stayed at the backpackers 1 night & it was $25 for a mosquito infested dorm. Even hanging outside the bugs were thick there. Plus lots of kids running around hollering.

There are other places we tried but it seemed common to tack on ridiculous prices for Internet or food. Villa verde is walking distance to the backpackers & some decent eateries. Otherwise it's easy to get around with minibuses & cabs.

it's enough, I've fond it on the map. Thank you!

Alex

stuck in Dili
 

TOLL changes a schedule 2 times a week. Everything was perfect on 10/03 but suddenly on 12/03 things go wrong. I was informed about schedule changing on 18/03 just one day before arriving in Dili. TOLL has just 2 ships on this line. They canceled Dili service in March. So the next ship is expecting on 08/04 three weeks later. Did anybody try finding another way to Darwin from Dili? I mean another shipping companies, private boats, flights, etc.

Alex

Sadly this is normal bull from them. If they don't have the freight, Dili gets skipped. We raced to get to Dili and ended up there for weeks. We ran out of time and had to skip Australia, shipping indirectly to Canada which was another experience with Toll. We absolutely tried to investigate air freight but the airline refused 3 different ways. Planes are small and they don't do DG no matter how many ways you disable the bike...it's frustrating for sure but we did enjoy our time in Dili getting to know Timor Leste and it's rough history. Plus we had good company with other bikers.

Hi

We also used Toll, do anything you can not to. It took 8 weeks from the time they originally said while we were in Dili. There were 5 boats that ommitted Dili during this time and later on I had asked for it to be put on the ship on its way out to singapore but they wouldn't for commercial reasons and gave 100% assurance it would stop on the way back, it didn't. I finally got my bike last month after arriving in Darwin Christmas day.

We learnt after there are a few other sea freight companies doing this route, Marriana was one and Swire is another, but not sure if they will give quotes for low container loads. There is no air freight as far as I know. It sounds a rough decision but if given chance now I would have ridden back to Bali to fly from there. Dealing with Toll has thankfully been the only real problem on our trip from the UK.

Taken from Swire Shipping Website

NEW SERVICE – EAST TIMOR AND DARWIN

Dear Valued Customer,

Swire Shipping is pleased to announce a new service linking Asia, Europe, Dili and Darwin. The new service will commence in April and is an extension of Swire Shipping’s commitment to develop sustainable multi-purpose shipping services in the Asia Pacific Region.


Service Rotation: Singapore – Darwin – Dili – Singapore

Port Coverage: Global connections via Singapore

Frequency: 18 days

Cargo Types: Containers, LCL, Break-bulk, Project cargo

Crane Weights: Up to 45t

Key Transit Times:

From Singapore:
To Darwin: 7 Transit Days
To Dili: 10 Transit Days

From Darwin:
To Dili: 2 Transit Days
To Singapore: 9 Transit Days

The first voyage will depart from Singapore on 18th April. The full voyages dates will be published in next week’s Swire Shipping schedule.

Please contact your local Swire Shipping representative for more information. Our Darwin and Dili contact details are as follows:

Darwin
Swire Shipping
Telephone +618 8984 3893
Email ssadrw@swireshipping.com

Dili
SDV Logistics
Telephone +670 3322 818
Email dil@sdv.com

We look forward to providing you with an excellent level of service in this new and exciting service.

Yours sincerely

Swire Shipping – Trade Team

I have sent them a request already but without answer...They probably ship tons of goods, wood, steel and oil. They don't want our bikes. It's too small deals.

I raced also to be in time. I missed Komodo because of this.

I'll ship it to Singapore on 25th from Dili and from there to Darwin on 8th of April.

So I'll see you in Darwin sometime soon ?

in the meddle of April I hope. I'll ship the bike next week to Singapore and next to Darwin the same vessel to avoid any skips in Dili on a back way to Darwin. According the schedule the arriving date in Darwin is 14th of April. I'm going to take a flight to Denpasar spent 2 weeks on Bali, Lombok and Flores. I missed some places there because of this race. Then take a direct flight from Denpasar to Darwin.

An excellent plan:) don't feel bad about Komodo, it's another 8hr round trip boat...blech.

I've put the bike in to the container today. they will ship it on 9 of April to Darwin. Two times ship have skipped Dili already so now they have 4-5 containers to Darwin. They have been asking main office in Singapore twice I saw the correspondence in the office. The boss told "yes, for sure Katheryn bay will call to Dili on the way to Darwin". But it's just a promises only. Nobody keeps promises in Asia. It costs nothing here. I haven't got a bill of landing but I payed the bill 100%. Should I trust people there I don't know. Would I have a choice I wouldn't. Shipping to Singapore at first and next to Darwin is more unpredictable than just live the bike here and rely on the own luck. The Singapore hub is 100 times bigger than harbor in Dili. If something goes wrong there it's a big problem. That is what they told me in Toll. So if the company say "we can loose your bike in Singapore" it's better to avoid this risk. Or maybe it's just in case of additional paperwork for them. This is Asia in short)

Alex

Hi Alex,

Just stick with the Katherine Bay from Dili to Darwin on the 9th, I doubt your bike would go missing in Singapore unless there was a change of ship and then I guess it's possible.

I just called Toll in Darwin to confirm shipping times for the Katherine Bay from Dili to Darwin but the staff have gone home for the day! They will return my call tomorrow, I called Alicross regarding the Heidenau tyres and Richard has them in stock :-) I also called Bobby at Exide Batteries and he will hold the battery till your arrival, so all is in order this end all you have to do is get here :-)

While I think of it, Air Asia have special fares for $119 AU one way from DPS - DRW!

Cheers Dave

Everything is done. I'm just waiting here in Dili a new Indonesian visa. Kathryn Bay was in the harbor this morning and it's already gone. I saw the vessel and I missed it. Hope they will come back two weeks later.
What is a great guy this Dave from Darwin! bier Thank you again!

Alex

Check the local sailing community maybe you could get passage and sail across rather than go back to Indonesia ?

Has anyone out there done this? I'll be looking to make this crossing in June. Maybe we could get a group together?

Seems like there would be a market for this like the Stahlratte boat in Panama/Columbia. :thumbup1:

I met the guy in Backpackers Hostel Dili. Hi is a captain of 15th meters concrete yacht. I've been talking to him about sail the bike to Darwin. I actually did it once in Portobello Panama to Cartajena Kolombia. 15 meters boat can takes on board 2 normal size bikes and 4 people besides crew. So he is agree with me. Try to check forums on desperatesilor.com floatplan.com crewfinder.com
Boat "Liberty"
The name of captain is Gerd (Swiss)
email sfehlbaumATyahoo.com
As for me I've got an answer from Toll this morning. Here is a last updates. I hope they go on it like this.

Kathryn Bay V.151 SIN ETD 03-04-2014
DIL ETA 08-04-2014
ETD 10-04-2014
DAR ETA 12-04-2014

p.S. If skips happening you may pay 100% bill of Toll, strap the bike inside a container in Toll warehouse, obtain a new Indonesian visa in Dili (takes 3 w days) and go back to Flores, Lombok or Bali and next direct flight Denpasar - Darwin. The ticket price for 1 bus to Kupang, 1-2 flight in Indonesia + Darwin is cheaper or the same price like you take a direct flight Dili-Darwin. Hope it helps.

Alex

Finding a yacht is not impossible, if you can find one sailing from Dili to Darwin look into it, if there is a yacht passing through that can collect you from Dili and take you to Darwin look at that also, sailing from Dili to Darwin would be a great experience but it's still the monsoon season and I'd guess very few yachts would be making the crossing at this time of the year.

I'm guessing you have already paid for shipping and airfares, getting refunds, extra visas ect will be real a pain in the arse! I would just stick with it, we all know how unreliable and time consuming dealing with Toll can be.

Thierry from HU is here staying with me also waiting to collect his bike from Dili and Toll, his ship arrived on Saturday, it's now Wednesday and they still have not unloaded his bike :censored: !!!!

Enjoy your time there, it's far, far cheaper than here ;-)

How it's possible? If the ship arrived at 1st April in Darwin when it left Dili? I was staying there from 19th of March and no vessels called at Dili on the way to Darwin. Anyway how it's going now? Did you call them? Maybe some pushing needs? 3 w days should be enough to get the bike after arriving.

G'day Alex, all is good here thanks,

Be aware that anything is possible when Toll is concerned! Thierry will collect his bike today, that's 6 days after arrival in Darwin! I have spoken to Toll many times, not 1 returned call and I still have no definite answer on the arrival of the Katherine Bay!

OK, 6 days doesn't mean 6 weeks)) So according to 1st April updated schedule from TOLL (I've got it on Tuesday 1st of April) Kathryn Bay should be now on the way to Dili to pick up my bike and then ship it directly to Darwin at best. They shouldn't suddenly change their minds and skip Dili again if the vessel is already on the way to. I don't know guys how to concern Toll. My lading takes less than 1/4 of 20 feet container. It's not like a tons of wood or coffee)

Alex

It's got nothing to do with how much space your will take and a lot can happen in 4 or 5 days! If Toll cant make a profit out of going to or from Dili they don't go, simple as that. They don't care or call to let you know how long you or anyone else waits or how much it will cost you! When they have enough freight to turn a profit you might get your shipment on the Barge unless someone else paid more for freight then you may well get bumped, wait even longer and without notice, simply facts my friend ;-)

Finally done! On 22 of April 40 days later that's not bad I've got my bike in Darwin. Total cost is 600$+170AUD+140AUD approx 900$. Just to know the distance is 500 miles approx...by sea.
Enormous thanks to Dave! Unfortunately he has felt sick of pneumonia but getting better. Tomorrow I'm going to leave Darwin and make it along Savannah way...still flooding between Borroloola and QNS border.
Resume: Think twice before going to Dili if you still have a chance to ship it from Singapore.

Alex