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lbendel 2 Aug 2015 13:05

I'd be interested in recent news on the KKH too. Is the road around the landslide completed ?

Also, do we need an escort anywhere on the KKH or can we ride freely (I hate escorts, but sometimes it's had to escape) ?

Laurent

Redboots 2 Aug 2015 13:50

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Originally Posted by lbendel (Post 512101)
I'd be interested in recent news on the KKH too. Is the road around the landslide completed ?

The whole thread here is interesting, but post #627 on this page is what you want. PAKISTAN | Reconstruction of Karakorum Highway (KKH) | Infrastructure | U/C - Page 32 - SkyscraperCity

Loads of recent photos in subsequent post.

John

lbendel 3 Aug 2015 03:28

Thanks, good link. In a nutshell, 25 september is their target for completion, so the KKH should be open shortly afterwards.. that'd be good news, except that riding a brand new wide road with a fresh coat of tar will spoil a bit of the legend of this road.

GSPeter 3 Aug 2015 15:49

KKH legend
 
Don't worry,
two weeks with grossly overloaded heavy vehicles crushing the asphalt and some rain washing debris onto the road, which is then forced into the road surface, mixed with spilled diesel and animal droppings. Thats what I call a road of legend. Enjoy
Duh, I forgot the "highly wired" truck drivers.
Peter, in Oslo

Mehmet Zeki Avar 5 Aug 2015 16:18

A message to whole world.
 
Definitely yes...

Several trip memories are already shared here by overlanders..
Some was by woman solo travellers.
In Pakistan and also in Iran, you are safer than you are in your home country..You can meet local woman bikers too..

The only problem is visa prosesses same as with İran and I guess it will be over soon...

Don't believe western media and powers..

A bit history and reminder time for new generation...For me, travelling means visiting history and local philosophy besides geography..

Game is over.First they gave the birth of taliban against russia, then fed it with all their power so as to keep some countries undeveloped and even in need of help.
Now it became a frankenstein for them and active in different parts of the world under different names.Probably 3.rd war happening between cat's-paws of sides.

This is the fight of powers for sharing energy and roads reaching mid asia where money,raw materials etc. are now..
This is the reality, center of the world is moving to mid asia..

Energy corridor between iran and china is under construction,KKH.tunnel almost finished,gulf bay will soon become one of the most important ports of the world and will be connected to china by road and railway..
Also another railway corridor that will connect west turkey with china is under construction.

I sincerely hope natural beauties,colors,hospitalities will not get lost as happened in my country after investments are completed..

So see them before they are lost.. For all current information about weather,roads,etc., there is a great and friendly bikers club in Lahore, active in most towns..
MAP-Motocycle Ass. of Pakistan and founder-first president Dr.Omar Khan is also here..

Wish you all happy,lucky,safe trips..

Indian69 10 Aug 2015 12:03

Its very encouraging to read such positive opinion about Pakistan. I am from Bangalore, India. I don't reallly know how safe it for INDIAN's to travel to Pakistan and then to Iran? Due to India - Pakistan political situation. I asked a Pakistani friend living abroad and his response was since you're a Hindu, Pakistan could be a risky place. Well, I am beyond religion and nationality. I am too keen to travel to Pakistan. So, here I am looking for a real information...

eurasiaoverland 10 Aug 2015 12:32

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Originally Posted by Indian69 (Post 512916)
Its very encouraging to read such positive opinion about Pakistan. I am from Bangalore, India. I don't reallly know how safe it for INDIAN's to travel to Pakistan and then to Iran? Due to India - Pakistan political situation. I asked a Pakistani friend living abroad and his response was since you're a Hindu, Pakistan could be a risky place. Well, I am beyond religion and nationality. I am too keen to travel to Pakistan. So, here I am looking for a real information...

First you need to contact the HC of Pakistan in India, to see if you can even get a visa, and take your own vehicle in. I have a feeling the former is difficult, the latter impossible.

Being a Hindu is no problem. There are actually plenty of Hindus living in Pakistan, and besides, nobody is going to realise what your religion is unless you deliberately make it obvious.

Good luck

EO

Redboots 10 Aug 2015 18:43

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Originally Posted by lbendel (Post 512151)
except that riding a brand new wide road with a fresh coat of tar will spoil a bit of the legend of this road.

Oh, I don't know... Latest photos show it will stll be a bit of an adventure :mchappy:

PAKISTAN | Reconstruction of Karakorum Highway (KKH) | Infrastructure | U/C - Page 33 - SkyscraperCity

Looks like the same quality as a lot of stuff that comes out of China.

Indian69 17 Aug 2015 06:03

Thank you for your reply. will give it a try...

Quote:

Originally Posted by eurasiaoverland (Post 512920)
First you need to contact the HC of Pakistan in India, to see if you can even get a visa, and take your own vehicle in. I have a feeling the former is difficult, the latter impossible.

Being a Hindu is no problem. There are actually plenty of Hindus living in Pakistan, and besides, nobody is going to realise what your religion is unless you deliberately make it obvious.

Good luck

EO


PathLessRidden 18 Aug 2015 18:14

Just exited Pakistan a few days ago into China via the KKH. Absolutely loved it there, the north has beautiful scenery and the people are very friendly, warm and generous. Make sure you make contact with the Motorcyclists Association of Pakistan if you're passing through, they gave us a lot of help, hospitality and information.

The road around the KKH is almost done, the boat operators on Lake Attabad are all now buying cars and vans to run taxi services once it's through - so no more boats soon. I'm glad we came through when it was still happening, it's a great adventure!

http://pathlessridden.com/wp-content...1/P8134594.jpg

The KKH was blocked for a week by a landslide, delaying our entry into China and making things complicated for the permits, but they were onto it straight away and got the road servicable again pretty quickly, considering the damage. Pics are on my blog at The Path Less Ridden

Redboots 3 Sep 2015 08:19

Attabad lake
 
The Attabad lake tunnels open today.

SkyscraperCity - View Single Post - PAKISTAN | Reconstruction of Karakorum Highway (KKH) | Infrastructure | U/C

skyroads 21 Sep 2015 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by PathLessRidden (Post 513663)
Just exited Pakistan a few days ago into China via the KKH. Absolutely loved it there, the north has beautiful scenery and the people are very friendly, warm and generous. Make sure you make contact with the Motorcyclists Association of Pakistan if you're passing through, they gave us a lot of help, hospitality and information.

The road around the KKH is almost done, the boat operators on Lake Attabad are all now buying cars and vans to run taxi services once it's through - so no more boats soon. I'm glad we came through when it was still happening, it's a great adventure!

http://pathlessridden.com/wp-content...1/P8134594.jpg

The KKH was blocked for a week by a landslide, delaying our entry into China and making things complicated for the permits, but they were onto it straight away and got the road servicable again pretty quickly, considering the damage. Pics are on my blog at The Path Less Ridden

Ditto ditto, Northern Areas of Pakistan is one of the best kept natural wonders, as well as the abode of most hospitable people.

bedoqstar 14 Oct 2015 08:52

thanks for the info... planning my ride this dec 2015 targeting Pakistan by Feb 2016

jimmyjei 19 Oct 2015 04:29

Hi all,

Entered Pakistan from China one month ago on a gs1200. Traveled to Passu, Hunza, Skardu, Deosai plains, Babusar pass, Murree, Islamabad, Lahore and then, India.

Great trip, great people and great food. Felt save 100% of the time.

Any questions, please feel free to ask.

Love this country!

lbendel 19 Oct 2015 10:06

Good, so you had no escort all the way through kkh? Did you take the main road through Chilas?
Laurent


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