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Kauyumary 10 Oct 2020 18:53

Hi there, new here from Europe. IRAN no CDP.
 
Planing to travel from spain to vanino, russia. and the get a boat to north america.
don´t want a CDP. i´m planning to get to vanino without a CDP. so, i´ve got some limitations. but a friend told me that it´s possible to enter iran without a carne. could anny body give me some info about it pleasse.

duibhceK 10 Oct 2020 18:57

Some fixers in Iran offer this as a service. Most (all?) reports I've read so far mention only limited time allowed in Iran though. If I remember correctly 7 days.
Might also turn out more expensive than a CdP.

Tomkat 11 Oct 2020 15:30

Well, here's what one of the local fixers had to say about it a few years ago.

https://www.overlandtoiran.com/cranet-at-iranian-border

That said, CdP is the law over there and I'm not sure Iran is one of the countries where I'd want to push my luck with the authorities.

Alanymarce 13 Oct 2020 20:40

Why don't you want a CDP? I know that to transit many countries you don't need one however they do provide insurance against the (obviously not desirable) situation in which you have to leave the vehicle (or remains of it) in the country involved... There was a thread on one of the "overlanding" fora recently in which someone was in a major problem with a situation in which a CDP would have allowed it to be resolved easily and cheaply.

Kauyumary 20 Oct 2020 20:20

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Originally Posted by Tomkat (Post 614773)
Well, here's what one of the local fixers had to say about it a few years ago.

https://www.overlandtoiran.com/cranet-at-iranian-border

That said, CdP is the law over there and I'm not sure Iran is one of the countries where I'd want to push my luck with the authorities.

Thanks a lot. This is very helpfull.

Kauyumary 20 Oct 2020 20:26

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Originally Posted by Alanymarce (Post 614810)
Why don't you want a CDP? I know that to transit many countries you don't need one however they do provide insurance against the (obviously not desirable) situation in which you have to leave the vehicle (or remains of it) in the country involved... There was a thread on one of the "overlanding" fora recently in which someone was in a major problem with a situation in which a CDP would have allowed it to be resolved easily and cheaply.

Basically because of the money, and the possibility of loosing the deposit.

duibhceK 21 Oct 2020 07:11

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Originally Posted by Kauyumary (Post 614942)
Basically because of the money, and the possibility of loosing the deposit.


Are you planning to sell the bike in Iran, while dodging local import and sales taxes? As long as you get the proper stamps while entering and exiting the CdP countries, there is no reason to lose the deposit.
The actual cost of the CdP (after getting back your deposit) will be lower than what you'll pay the fixers. It will also give you more flexibility in the time you spend in those countries.

Getting the deposit back on your return will also provide a welcome financial buffer while you get back into "normal" life.

Alanymarce 21 Oct 2020 15:51

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Originally Posted by Kauyumary (Post 614942)
Basically because of the money, and the possibility of loosing the deposit.

I think it's worth weighing the cost of the deposit against the cost of paying to import the vehicle if you have to leave it somewhere (or the cost of paying to ship the wreckage out).

Jay_Benson 23 Oct 2020 10:12

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Originally Posted by Alanymarce (Post 614959)
I think it's worth weighing the cost of the deposit against the cost of paying to import the vehicle if you have to leave it somewhere (or the cost of paying to ship the wreckage out).

I thought that if the bike was wrecked / stolen / scrapped then as long as a suitable official (police / customs officer etc) made a declaration to that effect then the CDP would not have to pay out so you don't lose your deposit.

Alanymarce 23 Oct 2020 15:33

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Originally Posted by Jay_Benson (Post 614995)
I thought that if the bike was wrecked / stolen / scrapped then as long as a suitable official (police / customs officer etc) made a declaration to that effect then the CDP would not have to pay out so you don't lose your deposit.

Yes - you are right, as far as FIA is concerned ("The vehicle’s exposure to theft or damage does not exempt the owner of the vehicle from any liability. In such cases, a police report is to be obtained by the owner/ driver and then presented to the Customs authorities in that country in order to initiate the corresponding formalities to getting the CPD discharged.").

However, there's no guarantee that this will work. I have had problems (finally resolved after more than a year) with recovering a CPD deposit when local officialdom (Kenya) was inefficient. This was not to do with failure to take the vehicle out, however does show that things don't always work as they are meant to.


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