really helpful, Thanks Mark - i will call and change my flight to Paris tonight and just skip the UK completely as Paris was actually my intended start destination but thought why not ride through London since im so close. So that was my only reason.

Im not looking to spend money where i dont need to, but this 11 day leg is part of a larger/longer very spur of the moment trip that i decided to do, yesterday. not into planning too much if i don't have to.

Last question as to not get this thread off topic. Who do i contact for Insurance in France/EU ?

i will update my cost quotes when i change Arrival/Departure to Paris.

Thanks.

I'm going to back away from this thread and let you work it out on your own (or at least start your own inquiry separately). As I said, a search will turn up the information you need. In fact, just reading back a page or so will turn up plenty, if you read carefully.

Generally, people are more inclined to furnish answers to people who state that they've done some searching on their own. That's not meant to be insulting in any way; it's just something you might want to know about.

best,

Mark

I agree with Mark about that being a very short trip for the expense of flying your bike but the green card insurance available for Europe will also cover you for the UK, it is getting insurance for a UK registered bike which is a problem for overseas visitors. Apart from that your bike should be legal in country of origin. registration up to date and roadworthy which I am sure it will be embarking on a trip like that and you are good to go.
Insurance here. http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...een-card-93020

Thanks for the correction, Mark. This must be why I sometimes warn people not to take as gospel anything I post on the internet. Always best to do your own research, checking all unsubstantiated claims (including mine) at least twice!

Hi Buddy-Joe,

As we have been mentioned already by community members in this thread, i'm just chiming in so you can ask directly in this thread or in our thread that has been linked already http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...een-card-93020

Have a great weekend,

Cheers
Dooby

Korea?
 

Hello All-
I am intending to do a 3 month Vladivostok to Europe trip starting in August. This is my first overseas trip. Shipping is a little intimidating. Timeframe is dictated by work and precludes a (logistically easier) West to East trip based on season/weather in Eastern Russia. I am hoping to take some adantage of Air Canada's deal. It specifically excludes US departures, so I plan on riding from S Florida to fly out of Toronto.

I planned this trip for last year but work issues resulted in postponment. During those preliminary discussions, I was told by one helpful AC person that Toronto to Seoul was feasible. I tried calling the cargo dept in Toronto last week and got turned down. The guy was not particularly well informed or encouraging. The response was that for all South America/Asia and African countries, I needed a freight forwarder. (Although I see they include Casablanca in the program.) Seems like a lot of countries to have a blanket government policy, suggesting that it is an easy answer to the program guidelines. Now I am looking for a work-around.

The gal I talked to last year is now working in the South American sales dept. I hope to be able to talk to her next week, but was wondering if anyone else has been successful air shipping to South Korea on Air Canada.

If I cannot do the "roll up to the cargo dept" thing in Toronto, I might consider crating the bike and flying it out of Florida. Some advantages in being able to swap on fresh tires, oil change, etc at home.

I have planty of time and have thought about sea delivery to Russia as well, which would save the considerable expense of Korea permits/customs/insurance as well as the $700 ferry ride to Russia. I contacted Yuri last year and he said that air delivery to Vladivostok had not been done before and might result in an insurmountable administrative standstill.

Dangerous Goods Certification?
 

I looked into the DG Certification requirements a bit. It seems that under IATA rules, only commercial shippers (the person tendering the shipment) are required to have a the paperwork done by a Certified Agent. Of course AirCanada may have stricter rules, but maybe not. The paperwork is available online and seems ridiculously simple to fill out for $100+. Anyone tried a DIY approach to this paperwork when shipping their own bike?

DG paperwork
 

This is my 1st post. Ive been reading and searching and im still confused.
We hope to take 2 bmw's (and us) to toronto from manchester air canada. My confusion lies with the dangerous goods docs. Can we do it ourselves both ways (it doesnt need to be done by an official shipping company?) or does anyone have a contact for an agent in manchester or near that can help us? Ive tried searching shipping agents but im not even sure what im looking for. Sorry if im in the wrong thread or theres an answer buried that i cant find.

When I flew my bike out of Heathrow the DG paperwork was all done by Air Canada and was included in the price, they inspected the bike while I was there and completed it after I had left.

AC don't do DG paperwork anymore. They farmed me out to Universal Packing . co .uk.

An easy process, and took a couple of days. Cost me £80 for 2 certs. One out and one back.

I had to set an Appointment to get a DG guy to come in as I dropped the bike off. (in Montreal)

This is the same guy who "forced" me to remove the spare gallon reservoir I had on the bike.

But overall smooth process.

JF

Shipping the bike from Brussels to Toronto, the DG guy (seperate company) only had a quick look at the bike and just asked if the tanks were almost empty. 55 euros for that here in brussels.

Othen then AC charging me about 230 euros more then the price originally given all went very smooth...

I called Air Canada cargo (I know, too soon really) to ask if they had 2019 Fly Your Bike details, and the rep I spoke to seemed to think the cities list/rates should be available a bit sooner than usual, perhaps as early as first week of February.

(Update Feb. 6) FWIW. Yesterday's call to Air Canada cargo revealed.... nothing. The particular rep I spoke to said the 2019 details now wouldn't be available until the end of February at the earliest (per the norm). All she would say is that 1) the PDF on their website is not actually a 2019 version, it's last year's PDF 2) All of the cities serviced in 2018 should be serviced again in 2019.

I called air Canada Cargo yesterday (0330 102 0811) and spoke to a guy who had no issue arranging for my bike to be booked on a flight from London to Toronto on 23rd April 2019. He requested I email some details, then they replied with a form I needed to fill out. Although I can’t actually make the booking until 3 weeks before the departure date, it seems that the deal is open! I enquired to make sure that there was no issue with this date, he put me on hold for a moment, coming back with confirmation and a quote. The multiple emails I’ve been receiving over the past day seem to confirm this. As I’ve already got the ticket for the flight, the quote for the shipment was £765. Again, I can’t make this booking, or pay the money as yet, but it seems that I’ve got the green light. :)

Congrats! That's great news for inbound transport TO Canada. =)

But for shipping bikes OUT of Canada, as of today (March 12) Air Canada Cargo main office still has no final details on the 2019 Fly Your Bike program. They seem very frustrated themselves, as they seem to have lots of people making inquiries.