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drivingforhours1000 13 May 2016 21:50

With Gypsy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsyprincess (Post 345550)
I love the idea of this thread. We are debating selling our bikes and buying new ones in the States, or shipping the ones we have. Price wise at the moment it seems buying new ones makes more sense than shipping. Anyone else with advice or experience to add to this would be fantastic! As of right now New Mexico it is! :-)

I'm with gypsyprincess! Not because I'm interested in starting a business but just want the info, for sure!

Chris Scott 13 May 2016 22:27

If we're talking the UK, in my experience identical bikes in the UK and the US have almost always been cheaper in the US, so shipping your UK one there will clearly get costly. Let alone shipping it back.
IMO the main reasons you might ship yours over there are sentimentality/trust and continuity. If stashing and returning periodically, or moving on from the US, then that can make sense (and may simplify documentation). But not every last thing you do needs to be about money.
There are also some bikes still available new there (KLR, WR-R, DRZ, XR650R, DR650?) that are long gone in the UK.
Buying and then selling in the US are also made easier if you have helpful contacts out there.

ilush 18 Jun 2016 10:30

AK
 
Hi guys!

Searched this forum and did not found an answer.

Can i buy and register a vehicle at Alaska as a foreign citizen with tourist visa?

I e-mailed DMV, but i guess i was answerd by a AutoBot.
:stupid:
Here's what i'v got from AK DMV:
Quote:

Hello.
To: DOA DMV WEBMASTER (DOA sponsored)
I'm Russian citizen and I want to buy a car at AK and register it to get local number plates on it.
I have an B1/B2 valid visa.
I will have an international driving license that can be made at local DMV in Russia.
What should I do?

DOA DMV WEBMASTER (DOA sponsored) <doa.dmv.webmaster@alaska.gov>:
Good Morning,
Will you be living in Alaska?
Becky
Becky MVCSR II
State of Alaska/DMV - Valdez

Me:
Good Evening, Becky!
No we will not. We will stay at AK for maybe two weeks.
Our goal is to drive to Chile at the car bought at AK.
Ilush

DMV:
HI,
You will need to use the residential address where you are staying while in Alaska on the application.
Becky

Me:
Residential address? Will a hotel adress be enough?
Will we be able to sell this car in Chile or Argentina? And will we be able to cross a county borders and in state borders at this car?
Kind Regards!

DMV:
Hi,
Yes.
Becky

Me:
Sorry, You mean Yes to all of my questions?

DMV:
Correct.
Becky
So could someone explain me what did Becky mean by saying Yes and Correct? ?c?:(

markharf 18 Jun 2016 19:19

Glad to see you asking here instead of over on That Other Website.

Becky meant yes you can cross borders and yes you can sell the car in Chile or Argentina. That's not a bot; that's a real person answering. However, note that Becky doesn't actually have any idea how one does or does not sell a vehicle in Chile or Argentina. Becky is merely stating the position of the State of Alaska, which doesn't really care about such things.

Selling in Chile or Argentina is going to be possible, but you really need to do your research among people who know how it works. Assume it'll be more difficult than your original purchase. Search this site for firsthand accounts, of which there are plenty.

Hope that's helpful.

Mark

ilush 18 Jun 2016 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by markharf (Post 541770)
Glad to see you asking here instead of over on That Other Website.

Becky meant yes you can cross borders and yes you can sell the car in Chile or Argentina. That's not a bot; that's a real person answering. However, note that Becky doesn't actually have any idea how one does or does not sell a vehicle in Chile or Argentina. Becky is merely stating the position of the State of Alaska, which doesn't really care about such things.

Selling in Chile or Argentina is going to be possible, but you really need to do your research among people who know how it works. Assume it'll be more difficult than your original purchase. Search this site for firsthand accounts, of which there are plenty.

Hope that's helpful.

Mark

Mark, I can't find any useful informaion about buying car at Alaska =(
I found information about buying car at Chile.

markharf 19 Jun 2016 02:24

I searched "buying alaska" and turned up several solid references, e.g., http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-alaska-68094. You can private message the posters, contact the shops they mention, or just read between the lines.

Maybe you're looking for information about cars, but motorbikes work exactly the same way pretty much everywhere (except in a few cases it's even easier). Or maybe you're just not willing to invest the time in research: you should expect to spend a couple of hours reading endless threads which occasionally contain something directly relevant. I acknowledge that if English is not your first language, that's hard work.

I'll add only that you've already contacted the Alaska DMV, and they've given you the information you need. What else are you looking for?

Good luck.

Mark

*Touring Ted* 8 Sep 2016 16:03

I've read this thread through as recommended by another member in relation to what I want to do, but I'm still confused.

I'm in the U.K.

I want to buy a bike in Argentina from a fellow traveller and leave soon after to Bolivia.

The bike I buy will likely be registered in the U.S.A.

With an address in the U.S.A ( I have friends in Kansas and Colorado), can I buy and then register this bike to myself by Proxy or online and then have the new title sent to me in Argentina ??


And what about the Temporary import permit (TIP) ? It will be in their name. The old trick would be to do a border run to Uruguay to change them over. I'm not sure how easy that is now. If possible at all.

Since I was last riding in South America in 2008, things have really become a lot more complicated.

chris 8 Sep 2016 19:24

Ted
1. Ask your friends in Ks and Co if that state allows out of state residents/ aliens (you) to register an (out of state?) vehicle in Ks or Co, using their address). Or make new friends? The seller? And register bike at the seller´s address/in the seller's state.

2. Ask if the vehicle needs to be present to be inspected, or if it's just a paperwork exercise.

3. TIP: do the paperwork swap in no man´s land at a land border or if necessary/possible ride out without submitting old TIP from old country. Not legal (but if you're not returning....)

When are you ACTUALLY planning on going?

*Touring Ted* 8 Sep 2016 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 546951)
Ted
1. Ask your friends in Ks and Co if that state allows out of state residents/ aliens (you) to register an (out of state?) vehicle in Ks or Co, using their address). Or make new friends? The seller? And register bike at the seller´s address/in the seller's state.

2. Ask if the vehicle needs to be present to be inspected, or if it's just a paperwork exercise.

3. TIP: do the paperwork swap in no man´s land at a land border or if necessary/possible ride out without submitting old TIP from old country. Not legal (but if you're not returning....)

When are you ACTUALLY planning on going?


Early January 2017. I've got 2-3 months and a small budget.

It's not 100% yet as It's conditional that I can sell a few more bikes. I'm 50:50.


There has to be an easier way...

I wonder if all the TIP's are recorded electronically and online for Customs to instantly check.

I sneaked through Brazil without doing the TIP but no one ever pulled me over and I just swerved the line where people were stamping out their vehicles. The border guards just checked my passport and waved me through.


Back on subject...

Anyone here want to register my bike for me at their US property ?? In exchange for British delights such as Hob-nobs, Marmite and Black pudding. ;)

chris 23 Sep 2016 03:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by michnus (Post 508101)
We just registered bikes on our names in Texas using our South African passports. :thumbup1:

Hi Michnus
Could you please shed more light on how you did this? What's the procedure? How much did it cost?

Many thanks!

michnus 23 Sep 2016 22:27

Hi Chris, I can't remember the precise cost but it was not much, the insurance was about 100us per bike if I remember. The cost to register the bikes onto each of our names was 30us or something.

It was an easy process, we took the title with our Passports to the registration office they did the paperwork and it was posted to the address we gave up in Texas, I think was two weeks later. We rode with the papers the registration office gave us.

It was honestly a pain free thing.

chris 23 Sep 2016 22:54

Thanks for your quick reply and detailed feedback on FB! I'll contact the possible Tx sellers I'm talking to too.

Lisa Thomas 2 Dec 2016 12:06

try Washington state
 
Simon and i registered our new bikes in Washington with our UK passports which included our US 10 year visa.
no issues - no questions. easy.
we used a friends address and that friend didnt even have to write a letter of confirmation or be in attendance.
hope this helps.
BTW - the bikes were purchased in CA.

electricrock 5 Jan 2018 13:16

Hi VicMitch,

happy new year!

are you still offering the service mentioned in 2015? I live in Munich, Germany and I am planning a coast to coast NY to SF motorcycle trip in August this year.

My idea is to buy a 30 year old bike in NY, ride it to San Francisco in less than 30 days and ship it home to Germany (customs here doesn't require taxes/duty charges for bikes this age)

Since motorcycle registration in NY is nye on impossible for non residents, your temporary plate - option seems to be the way out (or in).

Please let me know, many thanks in advance!

Daniel

markharf 5 Jan 2018 18:09

Much simpler in the other direction. You can easily buy, register, and insure a bike in California (or Washington, Arizona, Colorado), ride it back to New York, then ship it from JFK to Germany.

Just a thought.

Mark

Edit to add: Since shipping to and from the USA is getting steadily more awkward and expensive, you might think carefully about Toronto or other Canadian ports as well. That's for shipping to Germany, not for buying a bike.


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