US registered bike, help needed about CDP
 

Hi all.

It`s time to go for a ride. But I´ve got a problem. Few years ago I bought a motorbike in Florida to ride USA and Canada. But as I am an UE citizen, I think I can not get US CDP for that bike.

I am planning to go next summer to USA, ride Southamerica (where CDP is not needed), shipping the bike to Australia and then heading to Indonesia, Thailand, India, etc.

I am wondering if there is any kind of way to get an US CDP not being US resident or if it possible to get into Australia an India with no CDP.

Any help will be very welcomed.

Sorry, have no info on the problem, how to get the carnet... but I do know, that entering India and Australia without one could be very tough. Australia used to be possible without, but not any more.

And also Indonesia might turn out very problematic without it (some have had luck, though - but on the other hand I heard of people having problems even though they HAD carnets, so nothing is certain over there!!)... and if the bike arrives in Malaysia as freight, like it typically does, if you´re coming from the south, then that is also a possible headache.

If the bike in Florida is registered in your name, (I think) you should have no problem getting a "USA" CdP. I assume you know that CdP for US-registered bikes is issued by Canadian Automobile Assoc,
Carnet de Passages en Douane - Canadian Automobile Association | Association canadienne des automobilistes.
If there are any questions/ uncertainties about your situation, contact
Suzanne Danis at CAA office, sdanis@national.caa.ca; she is very helpful.

Thanks, I will try Suzzane.

Hi Miquel
I was going to post the same thing, but Court got there first :) Please post here as to how you get on with the CAA.

The Transalp I had when we met in Barcelona last year is going to Vladivostok via Estonia this year.

Good luck
cheers
Chris

Thank, Chris. What are you planning from Vladivostok?

Where is the bike? USA? If the bike is USA registered and you are starting from the USA then you should be able to get a Carnet from Canada, it doesn't really matter where YOU are from.

I'm British but have a USA bike and I could have got a carnet from either the UK or Canada. the ONLY problem with getting one is that you are supposed to end the trip back where you started so as long as you intend to return the bike to the US it should be no problem. Email Suzanne as people have said.

Good luck

Thanks, Lonesome George.

About the issue of returning the bike to the USA, it shouldn´t be a problem. But I think once you get your last stamp from the last country where CDP is needed, should be enough to get the CDP back to Canada.

I mean, when I am travelling on my Spanish registered bike, the Spanish automovile association just wants to see my CDP filled with all the in and out stamps, they do not want to see my bike.

If I leave USA through the Mexican or Canadian border, no one is going to stamp my CDP, and neither will do in Russia or in any UE country, so probably the last stamp on my CDP will be the Iranian one. I think giving them the CDP back with the Iranian in and out stamp should be enough to get my money back. Do not you think so?

I think so.

I had a UK CDP for my UK bike. I shipped it directly (actually via Antwerp, Belgium in a consolidated container) from Cape Town to New York (temp import into USA, no CDP needed, also nowhere in the Americas). I had an out-stamp in the CDP from South Africa. I posted the CDP back to the issuing authority in the UK and discharged it. They never saw the bike.

cheers
Chris

That's interesting - I haven't done this yet (I leave for South Africa next week) but my understanding from the RAC was that I would have to prove the bike was back in the UK before I would get my money back. People often talk about making sure the UK authorities stamp the carnet at Dover (or wherever) as proof you are back.

As always things rgarding the carnet are as clear as mud. I'll email the RAC for soem clarity

When we re-entered Canada we had Canada Customs at the border fill in the back page of the CdP. Then the whole lot was shipped off to Suzanne Danis at the CAA. The CAA then direct deposited the money back into our accounts. I believe this is the preferred alternative since this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt the bike was not sold and has returned to the country. I imagine that it might be possible to show a carnet with all the exit stamps from every country visited and say that the bike was never sold in any of those countries. As Court Fisher mentioned above, it is best to contact Suzanne directly, she has always been super helpful.