Valid/ available for cars &/or bikes. Different premiums by type of vehicle & type of cover.
Available from:
Green Card
or
[url=http://tourinsure.de/index.htm]TourInsure - Ihr Spezialist f
or
http://motosapiens.org/motocamp/
or
http://www.mototouring.com/interesting-links/european-green-card-insurance/?id=24

Thanks for that!

It's a bit of an anomoly:-
Some of the topics in the HUBB apply much more widely than to two wheels but they still show up as two wheel topics - presumably because that's how this whole site was set up originally.
There was some discussion a while ago about re-organising the 4 wheel vehicle section, but that has remained the same, so far as I can see, with just a few fora covering a few basic topics - for everything else, like insurances for vehicles, health aspects, route plans etc etc, the topics that show up in the HUBB apply equally to 2/3/4 wheels, or more.

Is this a reputable company? I need to get for both our bikes for 3 months. And last time had to pay 100euros per bike per month.

Try a search, such as the one in the link below:-
Search | Horizons Unlimited

I've never used them, but there are a few posts in here about this service & the camp site and I don't remember any issues being raised.

Thanks Walkabout I see some on ADvrider used this company with good outcome.

ADAC stops Green Card for foreigners
 

For the first time in 5 years ADAC wouldn't sell me short term GreenCard insurance for my African registered bike to tour Western Europe. (Plus I'm an Aussie)

They wanted proof that the bike had been shipped from Africa before even thinking about it. No end of attempts would persuade the guy at head office to change his mind.

Considering you can ride a bike onto a ferry between Europe and Africa, without shipping costs or documents, it doesn't make sense. Clearly ADAC are going out of the business of doing GreenCard insurance for foreigners.

MotoTOURING IN Italy were wonderful however.. Mototouring - motorcycle / bike rental, motorcycle tours and riding tours throughout the world

They arranged the insurance, via email, in 2 days. (Ask for Gloria. She's wonderful). Did it all in English without problem.

M.

I also got insurance through Mototouring last year when we shipped from Ashdod to Solerno. They were quite efficient but hellish expensive. Was 223eu per bike for 3 months.
Just spoke to Ivo at motocampbgATNOSPAMyahooDOTTYcom for 140eu per bike for 3 months.
Doug and Ivo is also on Advrider and seems quite on the ball with things. Ivo got things done really quick and effortless.

hello,

sorry using my phone, next to impossible to search through all the pages....

Canadian plated motorcycle, I'm currently in Russia, heading to Holland. need EU greencard Iinsurance, looking fur a cheap option.....

thank you for your help...
Edd

Does anyone know where I can get insurance for my bike in the UK.
The bike is Australian registered.
The company in Bulgaria no longer issues insurance outside Bulgaria as from today…
We only need insurance for the UK for a month..
Cheers Clive

current info on green card insurance from Italian firm
 

we can provide with the green card as follow
Green Card Insurance

FOR NON EUROPEAN VEHICLES only!

The UCI, an Italian insurance company connected with the ACI, the Italian Automobile Club, can issue a Green Card policy valid for the EU countries and other European countries.

The Green Card (typical Third Party insurance) covering up to € 750.000 of full liability against persons, animals and things

The green card that we can provide, is valid just for the countries that are part of the European Comunity, AUSTRIA, BELGIUM, BULGARY, CIPRO, CZECH REPUBLIC, GERMANY, ESPANA, ESTONIA, FRANCE, FINLAND, UNITED KINGDOM, GREECE, HUNGARY, CROATIA, ITALY, IRELAND, ISLAND, LUXEMBURG, LITUANIA, LETTONIA, MALTA, NORWEY, NETHERLANDS, PORTUGAL, POLAND, ROMANY, SWEDEN, SLOVACCA REPUBLIC, SLOVENIA.
About the size of motorcycle I know that there are no limit in Italy, but I don’t know in the other countries.

Please let me know if you need other information.

Thanks a lot

Gloria

Mototouring S.r.l. – Tour Operator & Motorcycle Rental
Via del Ricordo, 31 – 20128 – Milano – Italy
Tel. +39 0227201556 – Fax +39 0293660584
P.IVA/C.F. 11303890153
Mototouring - motorcycle / bike rental, motorcycle tours and riding tours throughout the world

Da: Rental Mototouring [mailto:rental@mototouring.com]
Inviato: martedì 4 febbraio 2014 07.17
A: Info Mototouring
Oggetto: Fwd: Traveling by motorcycle from Korea to Vladivostok, Moscow, then Europe



---------- Messaggio inoltrato ----------
Da: Gary Wegener <gwegener4098@gmail.com>
Data: martedì 4 febbraio 2014
Oggetto: Traveling by motorcycle from Korea to Vladivostok, Moscow, then Europe
A: rental@mototouring.com


Do you handle insurance for motorcycles? Green Cards? Can they cover Russia?

We are from the United States; will be arriving in Korea the summere (can get insurance for Korea), then ferry to Vladivostok and then west to Moscow, then touring Europe. Likely total time 3 months.

Is there any limit on the size of the motorcycle. One is a large touring bike, 1800 cc engine.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

Up to date information (as of summer 2014) about insurance prices and availability in the countries of former Yugoslavia can be found at this discussion:

Balkans Insurance - Here's the story, with details & sample documents.

The prices shown at that discussion are for a motorcycle.

Michael

Fifteen pages is too much to read through and maybe its been brought up already, but that €22 monthly rate increased to €105 in 2010.

And that company is the one that provided Green Card insurance sold by the ADAC in Germany.

The increase could have been due to that dickhead 18 year old on a cell phone (cell phone blabbers really need to get a life) who ran into my stopped motorcycle in 2009 putting me into the hospital for quite a while and writing off my BMW GS Adventure. It cost his insurance company a bundle!

Hi to all you out there on the Hubb. I am a Brit but live in Germany and can offer any one of you free of charge exept postage to get this Green card you you should you wish to send me copies of your vehicle documentation and writen authority to do it on your behalf I will go to the ADAC and get it. If copies are good enough Ill send them by email or by post. you can contact me through HU

Cheers

Eddie

Green card
 

Great stuff Eddie.

Will definitely keep a rain check on that and communicate closer to the time before we ship over to Europe
Leaving ZAR beginning January 2015 and hope to be in Egypt around end of FEB.

Reg

Sent you PM Eddie - very good of you to offer to help! :thumbup1:

Im having difficulty purchasing liability insurance for an Ireland registered motorcycle. Apparently, this was possible not too long ago, but now.....

I'm a non - resident (US citizen)

Help please!:helpsmilie:

Problem solved : )

Great update. Thanks a million for the information.

Sorry, I posted up on another thread. doh. That post is pretty bad. Double dohdoh

I'm using Tourinsure. I still can't get insurance in Ireland, but I can get green card insurance for the rest of the eu. So, I'm off to the UK, especially Scotland.

You can also use Knopf Tours in Germany. There is another tour company in Italy that posted on a similar thread.

Looks like Ireland is going to have to be a rental bike. Another trip.

Sure wish I'd read this before I landed in Ireland, purchased a bike, and ended up in the same mess, ha! My own fault for not researching, but still...oi.

I'm actually taking the same option- Tourinsure for green card and headed outward to Scotland, UK, Europe.

Think I have found a small loophole though- Northern Ireland is UK! If I can just get my bike up there, I can tour at least part of Ireland...

Well G, we have managed to sort the things out for you in one day so you can freely go and ride even through Ireland :mchappy: .

And we're not Tourinsure just for the sake of getting the info out to the community bier

Dooby

Ladies and Gents,

Does anyone know if it is possible to get EU green card insurance on arrival by ferry at Salerno, Italy?
Is it a dumb idea to go without it?

cheers
Nic

Hi Nic,

Not sure, but I do think it's possible.

If you want we can sort out the green card/third party liability insurance for you in advance.

You can check our website for more info, and if you have more questions just let me know.

Enjoy your trip planning :thumbup1:

Dooby

Hello All:

I've been buying 'Green Card' insurance to cover my Canadian plated motorcycle in Europe for the past 14 years.

I started - back at the turn of the century - with ADAC in Germany, at about €22 a month. That was great while it lasted, but the price went up to well over €100 a month, and a few years later, they refused to insure the same moto again (in consecutive years) unless you provided proof that you had imported it into Europe very recently.

I then switched over to MotoTouring in Milan, and bought insurance from them for a few years - it was (and still is) fairly expensive, but that was OK until their service deteriorated. Stuff didn't get mailed on time, they closed for weeks of holidays during peak riding season, etc. So, scratch them off the list.

I once bought insurance from Ivo, who runs the campground in Bulgaria. The price was very low, and I think Ivo provides this coverage as a courtesy to visitors to his campground, but it is really not his primary business.

Now, I'm buying my European green card insurance from Dooby, the HUBB member who wrote the post directly above this one. Dooby runs a very nice upscale B&B in Zagreb that caters to the bicycle and motorcycle touring crowd. Recently, he expanded his business offerings to include providing motorcycle insurance to visitors from outside Europe. The price is reasonable, the service is very professional, and best of all, he's an active member of our HUBB community.

Here's the link to the page on his website where you can find out all you need to know (prices, forms to fill out, countries covered, etc.): Lobagola - Border insurance

I was very pleased with the service I received from him last year when I bought my coverage, and intend to buy insurance from him again this coming year. Plus, I am told he will buy you a free coffee at his B&B if you stop by and show him your insurance form... :biggrin3:

Michael

Tourinsure
 

i have a question for anyone who has bought green card insurance (liability only) from Tourinsure recently

Can you confirm whether the cover extends to non-EU countries and if so which countries?

Hi Rob:

My experience with all the different organizations I have bought insurance from in the past 15 years (see post #226 above) is that they all sell the same thing, which is insurance that covers the EC countries (including some of the 'EC candidate' countries) plus Switzerland. See this web-page for a list of the countries covered: click here.

If you plan to visit the former Yugoslavian countries, you can buy coverage as you enter each country. See post #213 above for a link that will take you to a post I made that explains Yugoslavian insurance in great detail.

Michael

PS: If this is your first time touring in Europe, you probably won't be visiting the countries that are not covered... heck, you could spend the entire summer riding in the countries that are covered (plus the former Yugoslavian countries) and not run out of things to do. Save Ukraine, Russia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Syria, etc. for your next visit. :)

Shipping my Guzzi Stelvio from Melbourne Australia into Rotterdam in mid July to ride around Western Europe for 3 months.
My shipper can supply the Green Card but where / how do I get full comprehensive insurance to cover my bike?

Thanks

Larry

UK insured bikes to Bosnia
 

A word of warning to UK riders if you plan to visit Bosnia.
In 2014 we toured continental Europe from the UK. At a Croatia to Bosnia border crossing near Strmica they would not let our bikes into Bosnia declaring that we needed green card. Showed our insurance certificates and told them this is green card. No, apparently not.
We could find no way to proceed, no policy available to buy at border or anywhere else outside Bosnia.
Returned to Croatia.
Perhaps others might be able to proceed via this Zagreb B&B suggested by Pan European:
Lobagola - Border insurance

Hi Electra:

Well, if nothing else, it's a good B&B to stay at, and Zagreb is a fascinating city.

The generic 'European Green Card' insurance cover does not cover Bosnia & Herzegovina, because that country is not a member (or candidate member) of the EC. But, you can buy insurance specific to Bosnia at the major road crossings into Bosnia. I explained that process in detail at this post: Balkans Insurance - Here's the story, with details & sample documents.

Coincidentally, when I first tried to enter Bosnia from Croatia - at a minor road crossing - there was no insurance stand at that crossing, and I could not enter Bosnia. But, the Bosnian border guards spoke English well, and were very friendly and helpful - they told me that there was no insurance available at their crossing, but that I could enter at the next crossing about 80 km away and buy insurance there. They helped me plan out a nice route to the next crossing on scenic secondary roads, and I had a very nice time riding down to the next crossing.

If you plan to tour the former Yugoslavian countries again, contact Dooby (who posts as 'Frgich' here on the HUBB) for some advice. Dooby is the person who runs the Lobagola B&B in Zagreb, and who sells Green Card insurance for Europe. He will certainly know the exact details of what is needed to visit the other former Yugoslavian countries, and which border crossings you can get the insurance from, because he lives right next to them. He might even be able to provide you with insurance for the other former Yugoslavian countries in advance of your trip.

Michael

Hi Electra,

thanks for linking our website, appreciate it :thumbup1:

As of today we did not managed to finish all the paperwork needed to offer green card insurance for all the Balkan countries including Turkey.
Lots of paperwork needed to be done, but we'll keep the community posted when we start offering the packages.

This week we'll start accepting PayPal payments for EU border insurance policy, check our website until the end of this week it will be up and running :mchappy:

Cheers
Dooby

Thanks Michael,

As we have done this hundred of times, everyone that's passing by Zagreb can stop for a brew, coffee or beer.

We'll get the map out or your gps and provide info about interesting roads, places, mountain passes, food, paperwork etc

Other Balkans countries are in the pipeline regarding the border insurance policy, the whole thing is tedious and administration is a nightmare, but as always we'll provide a solution for the 2 wheel traveler community, and will post when it's ready :welcome:

Cheers
Dooby

PayPal payment is enabled

Lobagola - Border insurance

Thanks for your patience :mchappy:

cheers
Dooby

Hi Dooby:

What payment method do you prefer (in other words, what payment method charges you the lowest fees)? PayPal, or credit cards?

I ask because I will probably need insurance again this summer.

Michael

Hi Michael,

PayPal is cheaper regarding the fees, thanks for asking bier

It would be very cool if you're able to stop by for a good coffee!

Best

Dooby

Collision insurance available?
 

I'm happy to find another insurance option in Lobagola. I've been using Knopf and Mototouring in the last year. I'm an ADAC member but it sounds as if they might be out of the insurance business from what I'm reading here.

Knopf had collision insurance available last year but it was very pricey. I've just been going with green card liability and a monster chain to secure the bike when it's necessary to leave it outside. I'd sure feel better if comprehensive insurance were available at a reasonable price. Anybody know of a source?

On another note - I've been asking around about buying a Euro-registered bike (and selling mine in Europe or shipping it home) and from the conversations I've had it seems to be a very difficult proposition. I was told that unless I have a residence in Europe that it's not possible. There must be workarounds for this issue. My thinking is that insurance wouldn't be as problematic and it would be much easier to later sell a Euro registered bike.

If anyone out there knows something about this issue, I'd love to hear about it.

There are bigger problems associated with trying to register a North American specification motorcycle in Europe than just the residence problem you mention.

The biggest of these is that a North American spec bike won't meet European safety and emission regulations (or, if it happens to have exactly the same engine as its European counterpart, it won't have a European safety and emissions compliance sticker on it, which = does not meet standards).

Next biggest headache will be paying the VAT and any import duties on the bike, something you will need to do before you can plate it.

All things considered, shipping it home is your cheapest option.

As for insurance beyond just basic liability, there is only one organization that I know of that offered (or maybe still offers) that coverage, and that is MotorcycleExpress. But, it is somewhat limited relative to what you could buy in North America - if I recall correctly, it covered theft and collision, but nothing else. It was also very expensive, to the point that I just gave up on it after one year and elected to self-insure (take my chances) on everything except the basic liability coverage.

Michael

Thanks Michael. Yeah I suspected that I would have to go without comprehensive insurance for the duration.

But I was thinking about buying a Euro spec bike there and selling it in a couple years, not attempting the import/export route. And shipping the bike I have there now back to the USA or selling it there. That scenario seems to bring up the residency problem.

I called a guy I know at IMTBike in Madrid yesterday to ask him about selling one of their RT's. He said he couldn't legally sell me the bike because I didn't have dual citizenship or a residence in Europe. That came as a surprise because I had discussed it with the company last year and nothing was said about it.

Maybe I need to rent a cave somewhere on the Mediterranean :cool4:

Have a look at some other threads in here
 

The factors involved in buying/selling bikes in various European countries have been explored in some of the other threads in this section for Trip Paperwork, and there is even a specific sticky thread about the UK.

Just about every European country has it's own idiosyncracies, but the UK tends to have the most flexibility in registering the individual's "right to call a machine your own".
(the UK paperwork, known as a V5c, is not proof of ownership).

Strangely enough, each and every country of Europe is still sovereign with it's own interpretations of various EU regulations that have been introduced over the past 40 years.

Insurance is a different matter all together; therein, you are in the hands of the intermediaries - the brokers, the underwriters and their business practices - and other factors such as government legislation and risk assessment.
On that basis, expectations of "comprehensive" insurance are unrealistic, unless bought at very great cost from someone who has not assessed the risk fully; personally, I haven't heard of anyone who indulges themselves in the latter.

Dave makes a good point, if we want to carry on this discussion, we should do it in another thread that has already been established for this specific topic, rather than 'hijacking' this discussion about insurance, which is already way longer and more rambling than it ought to be.

Michael

Is it likely that you will sort out the Balkan counties in the next month?
I'm having trouble with getting coverage through my insurers in the UK. Aviva- never again!

Hi Packers, thanks for stopping by!

Unfortunately the answer is no, too many paperwork and time is limited doh .We're aiming to be ready for the end of this season, so people can plan their routes for 2017.

We're trying hard to create a platform, so people will have an option that they can count on and will not be expensive.

Cheers
Dooby

Packers:

See this post, where I answered your similar question: Green card- including the Balkans.

Michael

I recently purchased green card insurance from Lobagola - Border insurance
I am from Canada and plan to travel Ireland and the UK. My bike is with Martin at https://www.facebook.com/motofeirme/.
Dooby was great to deal with and answered all my questions as quick as I could ask them. I am really looking forward to my trip.

European Green Card Insurance
 

I recently purchase green card insurance for my Europe travels and I could not recommend Dooby from Lobagola B&B | design bed & breakfast in the center of Zagreb more! He was very responsive and straight forward and well priced.

Insurance for UK purchased motorbike
 

Hi guys after searching the whole Internet and ringing 100s of UK based insurance companies which wouldn't insure a temporary resident in UK I finally managed to get a third party insurance for my Uk purchased motorbike from lobagola.com
Doobey from lobagola sorter everything out quickly and within 5 working days my policy was in my hand. Many thanks to whoever had posted the reference of lobagola. Com. I will start my euro trip next month after exploring Scotland and Ireland, I am based in North Wales Colwyn Bay as of now anyone passing by are always welcome for a cuppa cheers!!

Hi K, Moto & Shri, appreciate your comments and we're glad our service is getting out and the word is spreading.

Safe travels to everyone, and you know how to reach us for border insurance services or if you need any help while traveling from Alps to Iran.

Cheers
Dooby

Last year I was frantically searching for insurance for my Irish registered bike (I use Motofeirme, can't recommend Martin highly enough) for a trip that had been planned for several months. In the early stages I was going to get Green Card insurance from Motocamp in Bulgaria, unfortunately they stopped providing that service a few months before my departure. As I said, I was scrambling to get some coverage and Martin mentioned he had come across a contact and put me in touch with Dubravko at Lobagola B&B. So my 3 week bike tour of Ireland had been saved.
This year I contacted Dubravko in early January to discuss Border Insurance for a six week tour of Europe and was assured there would be no problems. Dooby has since been my contact at Lobagola, he is courteous and prompt and polite. I have had no issues dealing with either Dubravko or Dooby, both are professional and a pleasure to to business with. Both transactions have gone smoothly, papers get to where they are supposed to go when you expect them to arrive...no surprises.
Two years ago touring the Alps by motorcycle seemed to be an impossibly expensive dream for this Canadian...its happening this summer with a little help from few strangers on the other side of the world!
A sincere THANK YOU to Dooby, Dubravko and Martin (& Phil)

PS: if time permits we will swing down to Zagreb for a refreshment and to say hi. :mchappy:

Regards,
Rick

Hi Rick,

thanks for your contribution, and it's a great pleasure to provide a platform for your travels in Europe :mchappy:

As for the refreshment, please do so, huge terrace with great view on the city will be waiting for you bier

Enjoy the weekend,

Cheers
Dooby/Dubravko

Another recommendation for Lobagola and Dooby in Zagreb if you are looking for green card insurance

I have found Dooby to be very professional and helpful and just had the pleasure of meeting him when I picked up my second 90 day policy documents in Zagreb

Dooby also took time out to give me information on planing for the Balkans and was really helpful sourcing tyres at short notice and ringing around to find a shop that sold oil and a filter for my bike

I very much appreciate his help and highly recommend his services

One more recommendation for Dooby and Lobagola. I was in a hurry to start my tour earlier this year and they went out of their way to help me. Super friendly, understanding and flexible. Can't wait to make it to Zagreb to meet them in person.

I will be using their services again soon.

Hi J,

Good to hear you enjoyed our service and I believe you will make even more miles next year!
Cold beer always in fridge, smiles and riding info of course in abundance as always ;)

Cheers!
Dooby

Another big thumbs up for Lobagola, Dooby and Igor. They've provided me with insurance for the past two years. Great service and great people, they make it easy, fast and reasonable. I recommend them to all my touring friends.

Green card
 

To hop on the train here, I also got insurance through Lobagola. As a Canadian coming to Europe, it was easy as can be. They forwarded the insurance papers to my first stop in the UK, and they were waiting when I arrived.

Cheers.

What sort of prices were Lobagola offering? I always thought that buying a green card was more expensive that buying frontier insurance?

Hi Bonnie:

I think you are mixing apples and oranges.

'Frontier Insurance' implies buying insurance at the border entry point of a country that insures you for that particular country only.

'Green Card' insurance implies buying insurance that insures you for a whole basketfull of European Community countries with one single policy.

I don't think that 'Frontier Insurance' (in other words, insurance for one specific country only) is available in any of the countries that participate in the European 'Green Card' scheme.

'Green Card' insurance covers a non-European vehicle (car or moto) in all of the EC countries and a few of the countries that are in the process of integrating into the EC.

'Frontier Insurance' covers vehicles from outside that country (which could include European vehicles) in that one country only.

See the picture of a 'Green Card' document that I posted in post #126 of this discussion (click here to go directly to that post) , then compare it with all the different 'Frontier Insurance' documents I posted in a separate discussion entitled Balkans Insurance.

When you look at the 'Green Card', note the country codes at the bottom of it. 'Green Card' insurance covers you in all the countries that are not crossed out with an X. If you want to go into the countries crossed out with an X, you have to buy 'Frontier Insurance' at the entry point to EACH of those countries.

Hope that clarifies it for you.

Michael

Thanks for your help. Perhaps I didn't express myself well, or this is more complicated than I thought!
I currently have insurance from the UK, which also covers Switzerland and Serbia. Up to now I have been buying frontier insurance in the Balkans (as well as Turkey, Iran Armenia), usually €10-ish, so not much of a big deal; especially as my insurer quoted me £100s to insure me third party in the Balkans only. However, on-route I've met lots of other EU travellers, who seem to have got their 'Green Card' (or whatever it is) from their insurer at little or no extra cost - and this has allowed them to travel into the Balkans, and in the case of some Germans I met, Turkey and Georgia as well.
I understood that they had a Green Card, but perhaps their insurer just has some sort of deal within these countries?

Hi again Bonnie:

If your vehicle is from the UK and your insurer is based in the UK, chances are that your insurance document is, in fact, a 'Green Card'. I say this because you stated that your insurance cover includes Switzerland (CH) and Serbia (SRB, or possibly RS). The standard in the EC is to issue an insurance document in a standard form (the Green Card) so that the authorities in all the different countries only have to be familiar with one form of document.

Each insurance company in the EC can decide on their own, in consultation with their customer, what countries they want to provide cover for. In the case of the UK, being an island, there are probably a lot of people who never leave that island, and it would be pointless for them to be paying for insurance cover that is valid in all the EC countries. However, someone living in (for example) Switzerland probably visits neighboring countries such as France, Germany, Austria, etc. frequently, so it is likely that the Swiss insurers automatically include coverage for these other countries unless the customer asks them to not do so.

Have a look at your document. It will be like the one I referred to in my first response to you above. If you want insurance cover for additional EC countries, speak to your insurance agent, it is likely that your existing policy can be amended to provide cover for (at the very least) all EC member countries.

Not all insurers are licenced to write coverage for countries outside of the EC. Hence, the ABC insurance company might be able to cover you for the Balkan countries and/or Turkey, but the XYZ company next door might not be able to offer coverage for those countries.

Be aware that this particular long-running discussion about insurance here on the HUBB specifically addresses the needs of owners of NON-EUROPEAN vehicles. For example, me, when I ship my Canadian-plated motorcycle to Europe to ride around for a month or so.

Michael

Thanks for your very detailed post. The green card is not just for EC members, but is actually 48 countries. I understand that this post is primarily for non-European residents, but I was wondering how much you were paying for some of the solutions offered here - as I might also benefit from it.

Ah, but that is exactly the problem. The type of European 'Green Card' insurance we have been discussing here is only available to vehicles registered outside of the EC.

The 'Frontier Insurance' for the former Yugoslavian countries that I posted about in the Balkans Insurance post is available to EC residents whose own insurance policy does not cover these countries. I posted the prices I paid in each country, although that was two years ago. I doubt that the prices will have changed substantially since then.

For EC residents planning to tour the former Yugoslavian countries, it may or may not be less expensive to buy 'Frontier Insurance' at the point of entry to each country, instead of having coverage for those countries added to your existing (home country) policy. You will have to contact your insurance broker and find out what the cost of adding those countries will be - and, if your insurance company even offers cover in those countries. The answer will vary from one insurer to the next.

Michael

Green Card
 

Another :thumbup1: thumbs up for Lobagola.com, especially Dooby!
He organised a green card for me in just a few days days, when I was (almost) stuck in the UK.
Good, friendly and quick service.
Thanks guys!

Great experience
 

Just wanted to add my two cents - just finished a 4.5 month trip around Europe, from England to the Black Sea and back, and used Lobagola insurance (two 90-day policies). I first needed it in France and when they accidentally sent it to my California billing address, they immediately overnighted a second copy to my French address so I could take off on my trip as soon as possible. I stopped through Zagreb and said hi to Dooby when I picked up my second 90 days, and he was super friendly and we talked bikes and trips for a while too. Completely hassle free, great experience.

-Eric

just saw this, but we didnt stop getting green cards for people, but our Bulgarian insurance company stopped issuing green cards for EU registered bikes.

We found a new company in BG now, and once again can get green cards for EU registered bikes, and non EU registered bikes as well

same rates as always
60 euros 1 month
100 euros 2 months
140 euros 3 months
and can be renewed if you stay longer than 3 months

email us at motocampbg@yahoo.com

Just FYI, I received this from ADAC in Frankfurt. They do sell Green Card Ins here's the email from them, this was sent March 29, 2017:

yes – we sell the liability insurance for vehicles coming in from outside Europe.

The price is €105,- per 29 days (for your trip €210,-).

For the insurance we need the Type of Title, your passport and address in the States. You can pay the fee cash or by credit card.

Our office is not so far from the airport. We are open for public Monday to Friday from 09:00 am to 05:30pm.

Don’t hesitate to contact us if you have any questions

Kind regards

Andrea Brackmann
Stellv. Leiterin Geschäftsstelle
ADAC Geschäftsstelle & Reisebüro Frankfurt - Lyoner Straße 22 - 60528 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon (069) 66 07 88 01 - Fax (069) 66 07 88 49
Andrea.Brackmann@hth.adac.de
www.adac.de/hessen-thueringen

ADAC (the German auto association) used to be the 'go-to' place for overseas riders to get European insurance, but about 6 years ago they jacked their prices up by about 500% overnight, and now, they are the most expensive place on the planet to get insurance.

I have fond memories of buying moto insurance from ADAC for €22 a month prior to 2010, but nowadays, forget about ADAC.

Michael

Well that ADAC quote is very reasonable.

I wonder whether it is possible to buy roadside assistance as well? I sent an e-mail to the contact to find out.

Well I'm starting to have a mild case of the panics. I ordered my Green Card insurance from Dooby a month in advance and selected the Economy Express shipping. One month should get here, right? Well I have 4 business days left before I leave and the card hasn't shown up. If it doesn't come by Tuesday I'm mildly or well and truly screwed.

I may have to take a taxi from the Frankfurt airport to the ADAC place and see if I can get it on the spot.
I'm regretting not just arranging it through Stefan.

Hi Bob,

thanks for sharing the info with the community, appreciate it.

You have chosen express economy service without tracking, which usually takes 14 days to get back to USA or Canada.
We do not have control on the service of US post or Canada post for that matter.

Upon receiving your docs and forms, we have created your policy and have sent you the scan of the original on 9th of May (Tuesday). Original was sent on Wednesday 10th of May, using express economy service (non tracked air mail), and the shipping to US usually takes around 14 days.

As always we try to provide excellent service, and we have already suggested that if the hard copy doesn't arrive in time (we can't be held responsible for US post services) we will send another hard copy to Frankfurt and we will pay TNT global tracked shipping by ourselves.

We have already done it for other customers previously where US post didn't deliver the package in time.

Another thing is that we do not compare ourselves with Stefans business, though will always say only high prises for his job and service, where we're sending each other mutual guests back and forth using both B&B's as their base and to acquire much needed info and knowledge.

Like I've stated previously we will send another copy to FRAnkfurt in case the first one doesn't arrive to your address so you will be able to get the bike from customs without problems.

Lost package for sure doesn't have anything to do with us, but with local postal services.

Cheers
Dooby

Dooby:

Yes thanks for the reply. I'm not placing blame on anyone but myself. I'm sure both you and Stefan are very reliable, postal service- maybe not. I'm certainly hoping that one day I will be visiting your BnB in Croatia! Your service is slightly less expensive but has a higher coverage level, which is why I made my decision.

I'm just in a quandary as what to do as the bike will be at AC cargo in Frankfurt. I'm staying at Stefan's the first night (and why I mentioned I should probably have gone through him) which is an hour away , and I was planning on riding there- I'm not sure where in Frankfurt close to the airport I could have the doc delivered for pickup when I arrive. If I could figure that out I would gladly pay the courier fee.

I've been told the customs people won't accept the pdf version of the policy. The only alternative I can think of is taking a taxi to the ADAC office and hope they will issue a policy. I've still got Monday and Tuesday to wait, but if it isn't here by now..

Life is good, my insurance arrived today and I'm ready to roll!

741.00 EUR for 3 month green card from lobagola seems excessive. A year ago I purchased 2 month one locally for 120Euro. And it appears on Turkish border it costs 118 EUR for 3 month: Türkiye Turing ve Otomobil Kurumu

Hi Sandro,

Prices of the policies are not made by us but by Croatian automotive club, which is defining prices on yearly base.

Same thing works for every country in EU and in middle east, Africa, etc.

Please do not mix EU and Turkey border insurance, because for people with foreign plates (non EU, or non Turkey) these are two different border insurance policies.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

Cheers
Dooby

I see, thanks for clarification! bier

Lobagola/Dooby recommendation
 

Hi all,

Just a quick note to recommend Lobagola.com for insurance and the service Dooby provides. We weren’t an easy case to sort out, given multiple nationalities, African registered bikes and already being on the road. However, Labagola/Dooby was super helpful, always quick to reply and answered our literally hundreds of questions. 10/10 would recommend.

Thanks Dooby

Stefan's Green Card rates are up to 205 Euro/month. It does cover many countries though.
ARISA is no longer issuing private Green Card Insurance as of 30 June 2017.
Motorcycle insurance is getting very expensive in the EU.
I may be getting a Eurailpass instead.

Affordable EU Green Card
 

Motorcycle insurance rates for non-EU residents are going through the roof. ARISA which offered reasonable rates (not exactly cheap) at 105Euro/month is no longer issuing Green Card Insurance. Most companies are now charging upwards of 200 Euro/month which is more than I pay yearly for all my motorcycles in FL.
Wonder if anyone has a lead on where to obtain affordable coverage while riding in the EU.

As a senior on a fixed income I may be forced to buy a Eurailpass for my future trips within the EU.
:scooter:

Have you tried these guys?: TourInsure

Lobagola really helped us out
 

Hey all,

Just want to add that the insurance service Lobagola provides for Europe was incredible -- we were traveling across West Africa towards Europe and needed insurance once we entered Spain. Dooby with Lobagola gave us the best advice about which plans to get, when to get it and where to get it delivered to. It was there on time and worked perfectly. Would 100% recommend!

Safe travels

Hi Rory :mchappy: ,

It was great pleasure to assyst you and Kiley on your adventure from Ghana to Europe, such a pleasure !

We'll be in touch, our paths will cross again for sure :clap:

Cheers
Dooby

Drmoto thanks for sharing Peter's info, appreciate it.

Can you confirm this is for both motorcycles and cars/expedition vehicles that are owned by private persons?
I am asking because some of my friends expedition travelers intend to use them this year when they retrieve their expedition rigs/4x4 from customs in Europe? They route is to go across Europe and then Africa.

Appreciate for the info,

Cheers
Dooby

Through this thread you can follow our contribution and what green card insurance service we provide for three years now.
Search Dooby and Lobagola and let me know if you have any questions.

Cheers
Dooby

Can anyone recommend insurance for a foreign car in russia ?
Looks like Lobagola doesn't cover it.
anyone had any experience with Home ?
Thanks

+1 Motosapiens for EU Green Card Insurance
 

+1 for Ivo and crew at Motosapiens (www.motosapiens.org) in Bulgaria for EU Green Card Insurance. I got it for my Australian registered R1200GSA this week.

Excellent service, prompt detailed responses to all my questions and half the price of others offering same insurance. 60 Euro for 1 month.

Paid on a Wednesday, received scanned copy on Sunday and received paper copy on the Monday to my house in Germany.

Thanks again Ivo! bier

Grahams.
What kind of insurance are you looking for? If it is Third Party, like Green card in Europe, you buy it cheap at every border post. Close by there will be an office or perhaps in the first large service station.


Ali.

Hi Graham,

Sorry for the late reply.

Currently we're not covering, though looking into it because of loads of inquiries and with current problems of cutting the number of places to buy insurance on site, for example in Vladivostok.

Safe travels,

Cheers
Dooby

I am also happy to recommend Dooby / Frgich for the provision of green card insurance. I needed it for my cross Europe tour due to not having a European drivers license and had a short timeframe between when I purchased my motorcycle in the UK and when I wanted to begin in Spain.

Turn around time was 9 days from when I sent the documents to receiving them in the UK, and I am now happily posting this from Spain mid-tour.

Hi mbidian,

many thanks for posting about Lobagola services!

We're glad you got sorted in time, as fast as it was possible, Now enjoying warm Spanish climate seems appropriate and for sure some great food and wine ;).

We have some big news regarding the insurance, and also additional services that goes alongside.

Since this season, we have created a new service of bike purchase here in Croatia, where we are offering for bikes purchased through us green card/third party liability but also full kasko/comprehensive coverage insurance.

For inquiries send us your email to:

borderinsurance@lobagola.com

Also important news is that we have new main motorcycle warehouse, that is 300m2 of underground space, where we keep our motorcycles but also bikes from clients that are storing with us on yearly base.

For more info on bike purchase and storage, send your inquiry to:

mototours@lobagola.com

Cheers
Dooby

Hi Micheal

I am confused about getting green card insurance for cars registered in non-EU countries. I am in the process of shipping my USA-registered car to Europe and looking for liability insurance. However, every insurance company in Europe told me that "a green car insurance cannot be issued to a car not registered in Europe. (see, for example, Green Card)

Then, I checked the website of the Council of Bureaux, which is the entity that manages the green card system. In their documents, it is also clearly mentioned in section 2 of Internal Regulations document that:

1. Each bureau shall be responsible for printing its Green Cards or shall authorise its members to print them.
2. Each bureau shall authorise its members to issue Green Cards to their insureds solely for vehicles registered in any country for which it is competent.
3. Any member may be authorised by its bureau to issue green cards to its insureds in any country where no bureau exists provided that the member is established in that country. This option is limited to vehicles registered in the country in question.

Hence, I don't undertand if it is even legitimate to sell green card insurance to non-EU registered cars.

I want insurance that is valid in Greece. I will ship my car to Turkey and drive to Greece from Turkey. I wonder if I can get the liability insurance at the greek border.

Thank you

Alex

I can't speak to what the regulations say. I can only report that I've twice purchased green card insurance for my US-registered motorbike, and that it passed inspection at a variety of TIP desks and border stations--some of which no longer seem to exist, since my first time was in 2007.

As an added bonus, I even used one of those green cards to travel in Colombia, where it was totally invalid (and after it had expired). Seemed a pretty good deal!

Contact Frgich as indicated in the post above yours.

Mark

The whole team at Lobagola B&B and Lobagola MotoTours wants to thank all of our friends and clients for giving us their trust and using our services throughout this year.

As we're always pushing things forward listening for the community and it's needs, we have launched our new website fully dedicated for motorcycle service, tours, experiences etc.

Home - Lobagola mototours

new contact emails are:

info@lobagola.mototours.com
insurance@lobagola-mototours.com
tours@lobagola-mototours.com

There are many new services, insurance products, freight solutions and our support is reaching even farther then before regarding the logistics, paperwork etc.

If you want to own your own EU registered motorcycle, need to freight it by air/sea or land, plan to travel from Australia to Europe or crossing Africa we are now able to provide support throughout the way.

Before buying your motorcycle through our service you can come and rent one of the bikes from our fleet for very competitive prices and see why clients from all over the world like our location as we're just 1,5 h ride from Alps and 1,5 h ride from Adriatic coast. TET is just 1,5 h ride from our premises and our motorcycle warehouse.

Storage for motorcycles, 4x4 and as the community have requested van and trailer storage is now also available. As many inmates travel from northern European countries towards south to reach TET in the Balkans as fast as possible, we're now storing the vans/cars and trailers as well.

Our service garage on site is now offering Rabaconda tyre and mouse changing service for free. So if you are riding TET and need to change your tire, just send an email to info@lobagola-mototours.com or give us a call.

Our on site tire storage and availability is spreading into offering off road tires and large enduro motorcycle tires to be bought on site directly from us.

Expedition tours and newly added training experiences are available on request.

Our Lobagola B&B accommodation is running as always 365 days a year, so you're more then welcomed to stay with us. Just stopping by for a beer, a coffee or just a chat for useful fresh info will makes us happy.

See you out there :) (more often off the road then on the road) .

BR
Dooby

Hi, does any one know how a Canadian who has purchased a UK-registered bike in the UK (but is at the UK / France border and doesn't need to drive in the UK) can go about buying Green Card insurance?

I thought I could do this with Dooby / Lobagola as I had done so in 2018 but perhaps Brexit has changed that.

Thanks in advance.

Hi all,

Just received our green cards for Europe transit and Morocco (first time in 4 years!)

Insurer says they no longer issue them on green paper, and that a digital print out on white paper is the new norm.

This seems to tally with here: https://www.ofesauto.es/en/as-from-n...n-green-paper/

Has anybody experienced any issues having a white paper copy when entering Morocco? They used to be very keen on seeing the original green document but hoping times have changed.

Thank you.

David

That is correct - green paper has not been necessary for years. Within the EU/EEC nobody will even ask for it on paper, and in my experience neither did the border guards in Montenegro and Bosnia - they wanted to see the bike registration on paper, but didn't even ask about insurance. A printout on regular paper should be just fine for any country that accepts Green Cards in general.

Thank you AnTyx that is good to know!

However, I am particularly interested to know about Morocco. I only ask as the douane were always very particular about the green card and seeing the original copy. I'm hoping they won't cause a fuss it has been 4 years since last visit.

Over a year since the last post:

What's the latest on getting insurance for a US Citizen, purchasing a EU Bike, for all of Europe, including UK and Ireland...and Turkey (Where I've heard they are much more strict with the registration being in the rider's name).

Thinking of shipping my bike to Italy then exploring from there. My UK insurance will only cover me for 90 days. I am further limited by Schengen rules but would hope to fly in and out storing bike in EU while I'm back in UK.

Has anyone any experience of the frontier insurance issued there (https://ucimi.it/en/frontier-policies/). Seems to cover whole of EU and EEA and price is reasonabke.