A very particular problem with a CPD
 

Hello,
Our french 4x4 must change its plate number while it is parked abroad with a current CPD !

Let me explain :

For a dozen years, our Toyota LC, registered in France where we live, has been based in southern Africa and we find it during our holydays to visit the different surrounding countries. Currently, he is kindly waiting for us in Lusaka in Zambia where we should pick it up next October.
For our Toyota, we have a french CPD that we renew every year and which expires at the end of October 2023.

But in France, we recently moved to another place.The vehicle registration system in the country has changed and now our Toyota has a new Carte grise in France but above all a new French registration number (which I will call RegNew99)! The old registration document and the old number plate (which I will call RegOld11) will soon no longer be valid.

Is it possible to have a new CPD with the new number RegNew99 which would indicate that it is the continuation of the old CPD with the old number RegOld11 for the same vehicle?
Are we not at risk of having customs complaints for not leaving the territory of our vehicle referenced with the old number RegOld11 ?

Has this type of situation ever happened to any of you?

This is a very special case but I would like to have as much feedback as possible before fighting with my Automobile Club.

Thanks in advance
Nadine

Hi,

No experience here but the first thing what comes to my mind is this:

When you go to Zambia, do you take the new plates with you from France?
If yes, then you could leave Zambia on the old plates and old CDP and maybe chance the plates before entering the next country on a new CDP, only possible if there is a sort of no mans land in between, I think. I don´t know but it´s just a idea.
What about the vehicle registration papers? They must have the same number as the car. So you must have 2 of them. One with the old and one with the new number.

Agreed with Rognv. I cannot imagine the Zambian border guards would give a remote damn that your RegOld11 plates, which match your valid paperwork, are technically not legal to drive on in France any more.

Just bring all the paperwork and explain the situation if it comes up.

Doesn't your CDP have the chassis number of the Toyota in it?

BR
Dooby

Hi
In fact, that's what I intended to do.
But it will either be the border with Mozambique or with Zimbabwe! In both cases, we have already done this several times and they are generally finicky and quite often corrupt.

Any situation giving rise to the possibility of extorting one or more tickets is a good one to take. We already found ourselves emptying the Toy and the cell.
As there is no no mans land and these are places sometimes very frequented by money changers or other "assistants", I don't really see myself taking out my new plates and changing them on our 4x4 without attracting attention. I can already imagine going through customs afterwards ;-)
I was hoping there was a specific procedure!

But you are right, as in any case we have 2 registration cards with 2 numbers for the same car, I think we will be able to make ourselves heard and understood, unless we come across a particularly annoying official who will decree that It’s illegal traffic of car ! They might not believe us (or not want to believe us) despite our good faith.
As always, you have to hope to face the right person.

Not to mention that we must hope that our automobile club will assume that the new CPD with the new number will indeed be a renewal and will not require a new deposit ;-)
I'll call them tomorrow and let you know

Many thanks to you and have a nice evening
Nadraia,

Yes and Engine number aswell