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Fearless 29 Jul 2012 05:56

Laos/Cambodia
 
Anyone travelling in Laos/Cambodia in September 2012. We arrive from China around Sept 9 in a off road truck.

Any suggestions, places to stay etc etc

Cheers
Robert and Clary Van den Hoven

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TravellingStrom 29 Jul 2012 19:55

If your still there in October, we might be getting in there, depends on the change in procedures as we try to negotiate our way through China, and maybe Mongolia then China again :)

Fearless 30 Jul 2012 07:08

Laos
 
We are in Monogolia at the moment. Entering China on August 9. But in October we will be in Malaysia. Where are you at present?

Pumbaa 30 Jul 2012 10:41

We are in Indonesia at the moment, going north. Might be able to meet up for a jeigeror two.

Don't think we'll be able to travel with you though, we are on bicycles:mchappy:

Fearless 31 Jul 2012 05:57

Laos
 
No worries meeting up for a drink or 2 would be nice.
You are travelling North and we are travelling south towards Indonesia.
Having a nice cold fridge on board we make sure the drinks are cold.

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RTWbyBIKE.com 31 Jul 2012 17:55

Have a look at our Laos section for tips and routes, we just come from Laos.

Going to Indonesia? You have a plan how to do that? Was hard for us and our bike, I guess from Malysia it will be very hard to go over with a 4x4, if not impossible. Do NOT ship to Jakarta or Dumai or you will have a very hard time with the customs there...

GRTS from Dili, Timor Leste.

cheers Sascha

Fearless 2 Aug 2012 15:11

Laos and Indonesia
 
Thanks guys very nice website.
Need to look at it more tomorrow.
As of Monday we are on our way to China.

Did you keep GPS locations?
We travel in a Off Road Truck

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Fearless 24 Sep 2012 12:38

Cambodia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TravellingStrom (Post 387583)
If your still there in October, we might be getting in there, depends on the change in procedures as we try to negotiate our way through China, and maybe Mongolia then China again :)

Gday Mate
Where are you now

Robert and Clary

TravellingStrom 25 Sep 2012 02:55

Hi

I just left Ulan Batar yesterday, the bike is crated and in bonded storage for a few weeks before it gets fglown to Thailand

I am currently in Shenzen China, be here about a week I guess before heading away

I have no transport, I am a tourist :(

Where are you guys?

Cheers
TS

tradern 25 Sep 2012 04:49

Clarissa and I are relaxing in Kampong Thom, I guess middleish of Cambodia?

Slowly making our way a little south-east then following the Mekong back up through to Laos.

Really can suggest visiting a few temples other than Ankor Wat for a much nicer relaxed experience of Cambodia. The people are absolutely beautiful.

Ps. Most dirt roads we have ridden so far have been in good condition considering the rain but turn to hell after a storm! Below's not the best reflection but was one of the few good spots to stop and take a picture.

The road to Sambor Prei Kuk

TravellingStrom 26 Sep 2012 04:19

Hmmm, not sure I would want to ride that road with my heavy bike, I would lose too much energy picking it up all the time

Fearless 26 Sep 2012 15:23

We are having some R&R in Sihanoukville (Otress Beach) and heading back to Phnom Penh on the weekend.
Why did't you take the Bike to china?
Cheers Robert

Fearless 26 Sep 2012 15:29

Kampong Thom
 
[[QUOTE=tradern;393809]Clarissa and I are relaxing in Kampong Thom, I guess middleish of Cambodia?

Slowly making our way a little south-east then following the Mekong back up through to Laos.

Really can suggest visiting a few temples other than Ankor Wat for a much nicer relaxed experience of Cambodia. The people are absolutely beautiful.

Ps. Most dirt roads we have ridden so far have been in good condition considering the rain but turn to hell after a storm! Below's not the best reflection but was one of the few good spots to stop and take a picture.

Yes this is the tye of roads we have been driving? in east laos and the North East of Cambodia. Glad I am on 4 wheels? It looked like The Congo. We are currently in Sihanoukville (Otress Beach) till Saturday/Sunday before heading back to Phnom Penh. What are your next moves
Cheers Robert

tradern 27 Sep 2012 01:40

G'day Robert,

We are in Kampong Thom at the moment and will be heading to Kratie in a day or so to try and see these Mekong dolphins. We spent way to much time in Malaysia/Thailand doing the beach/island thing so we gave Sihanoukville a miss. How are you finding it?

I think Mr. Strom did do China but is just shipping the bike at the moment?

For big bikes we are certainly here in the wrong season but some of the attractions can be seen with braving some 5-50km dirt entrance roads. Although there's many awesome adventure riding to be done over hear (much more enjoyable when its drier).

TravellingStrom 27 Sep 2012 04:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearless (Post 394047)
Why did't you take the Bike to china?
Cheers Robert

We were not allowed to enter the second time! Our tour company, with NO reason given cancelled the second leg. This left us stranded in Mongolia.

I am posting today on my blog the whole story and I have written to the tour company advising them they are about to be slammed as they have not responded to my request for a valid reason

Cheers from Shenzen, China
TravellingStrom(less)

tradern 27 Sep 2012 05:02

Bastards. Hope you get it sorted mate or let the world know who not to use for a tour company.

You will have good fun on the strom with some nice TKC80's or equivalent for the muddy stuff here (certainly wouldn't advise the single trail stuff though). You should be coming into SEA the end of the wet anyway I think?

You can get the delivered to Chiang Mai, Thailand from Bangkok for a reasonable price too!

TravellingStrom 27 Sep 2012 06:18

Hi

I am naming them as I write the post, all the company names they have used, and strangly enough, I used th eword bastards to identify them also ;)

I have Heidenau Scout K60s and I am hoping they will last me until I get home. I have no wish to do mud, but hard packed gravel is fine. I am not planning any single track as I have done enough damage to me and the bike already by going off road

Cheers
TS

Andrew White 27 Sep 2012 16:13

Also had my tour with them cancelled... I was doing nepal-Tibet-China-Laos... On this occasion it was out of their control (that whole change in the rules, only 5 or more of same nationality will be granted permits, heard from many other sources aswell).... But once again many in my group were displaced... i also shipped to bangkok from mumbai... i was lucky i was still in india when they cancelled... in a 4x4 i wouldnt have been able to air freight the van like the other bikers... i most probably would have to wait a few months before applying for another visa to india....

TravellingStrom 28 Sep 2012 01:12

Yes some it was out of their control, we originally went into china via Kyrgystan then followed the himalaya's down, detour to tibet then out in Laos, we made a big detour north to fit in with the new regulations and still failed :(

Andrew White 28 Sep 2012 01:54

Yeh this last cancellation is very bizarre. Hope it works out for you ok? Good luck

Fearless 28 Sep 2012 14:00

Sihanoukville
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tradern (Post 394092)
G'day Robert,

We are in Kampong Thom at the moment and will be heading to Kratie in a day or so to try and see these Mekong dolphins. We spent way to much time in Malaysia/Thailand doing the beach/island thing so we gave Sihanoukville a miss. How are you finding it?

I think Mr. Strom did do China but is just shipping the bike at the moment?

For big bikes we are certainly here in the wrong season but some of the attractions can be seen with braving some 5-50km dirt entrance roads. Although there's many awesome adventure riding to be done over hear (much more enjoyable when its drier).

We also experiencing a lot of rain at the moment here in Sihanoukville. But after 9 months in travelling across Siberia-Mongolia-China-Laos and Cambodia we love the smell of the sea. As compared with Thailand and Malay beaches you did not mis anything in fact you would have been disappointed.
Saturday or Sunday night we are in Phnom Penh if ou are still there we can meet. We bush camped in the Royal Palace carpark 2 nights. But the local street kids made us look for a guest house 7 Km out of town on the way to the Vietnam border. Guest House Elephant Blanc $25USD per night perfec pool and small breakfast for 2.

Fearless 28 Sep 2012 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by TravellingStrom (Post 394102)
We were not allowed to enter the second time! Our tour company, with NO reason given cancelled the second leg. This left us stranded in Mongolia.

I am posting today on my blog the whole story and I have written to the tour company advising them they are about to be slammed as they have not responded to my request for a valid reason

Cheers from Shenzen, China
TravellingStrom(less)

Look forward to the story, I think I mentioned to you before friends of ours had to backtrak from Kyrgystan to Mongolia????

Fearless 28 Sep 2012 14:13

Phnom Penh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tradern (Post 394092)
G'day Robert,

We are in Kampong Thom at the moment and will be heading to Kratie in a day or so to try and see these Mekong dolphins. We spent way to much time in Malaysia/Thailand doing the beach/island thing so we gave Sihanoukville a miss. How are you finding it?

I think Mr. Strom did do China but is just shipping the bike at the moment?

For big bikes we are certainly here in the wrong season but some of the attractions can be seen with braving some 5-50km dirt entrance roads. Although there's many awesome adventure riding to be done over hear (much more enjoyable when its drier).

Are you going to Phnom Penh? We should be there eiter Saturday or Sunday night? staying at Elephant Blanc 6 Km out of ton enroute to Vietnam border.
after thailand and malaysia you did not miss anything in Sihanoukville. and the weather is lousy Warm and raining.
Cheers Robert

tradern 28 Sep 2012 17:38

G'day Robert - won't be heading to Phnom Penh unfortunately but will be heading the other way too Kratie tomorrow. Overstayed here two days with some food poisoning and nobody has come close to convincing me that we should see the crazy capital so far :)

Which way are you headed after?

Fearless 29 Sep 2012 03:29

Crazy City
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tradern (Post 394305)
G'day Robert - won't be heading to Phnom Penh unfortunately but will be heading the other way too Kratie tomorrow. Overstayed here two days with some food poisoning and nobody has come close to convincing me that we should see the crazy capital so far :)

Which way are you headed after?

I think Phnom Penh has a few interesting sights which are part of Cambodia
1. Killing Fields 2. S21 Prison 3. Possible the Royal Palace. When we travelled in Africa we did Rwanda and could not believe what happenend there. while the world did nothing. It made Hitler look like a gentleman. And I have to say the same here in Cambodia. From Phnom Penh we travel to Ankor What and Battembang then into Thailand.
Cheers
Robert and Clary
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