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vicreuter 9 Jan 2012 05:12

Thanks Franki, some interesting informations and advice in your post.

I appreciate Eric's plan in case of bike related problems; wouldn't like mine to end up the same way as the Bmw Tiffany saw. :nono:


An Abandoned Bike at Chinese Customs
I thought this might be one for the HU Bar Crowd

In the Customs area on the Chinese side of the Irkeshtam Pass, there is a dusty mound hidden away in the corner of the compound. Being a bit on the nosy side I pulled away some of the coverings and underneath there is...
A BMW F650GS

The number plate has been removed, it was impossible to see the engine number and it's so securely wrapped in canvas that I couldn't get to the speedo to see if it's in miles or kms.

It's pretty dusty and looks like it's been there a while.

Any idea who it might belong to?

Revenue 10 Jan 2012 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franki (Post 362305)
Hi Eric,

FYI:
1. all military postings do offer emergency oxygen supply and sometimes temporary accomodation.
2. There are airports every 500km along 219 but some may not be opened to public. There is one in Pulan (near Zichuanhe) which has a regular flight to Lhasa once every Tuesday.
3. I always carry Dymox with me when I travel through high altitude area. I have not used it myself but have given to many who has suffered or wants to prevent from high altitude sickness. It helps.

Franki

Franki thanks for the Diamox tip, just been to town 100 250mg tablets 400 baht, about 8 quid. Bought two boxes just in case.
When did you ride the 219???

Eric

PaulD 10 Jan 2012 05:59

China
 
I am so envious of you guys doing this trip !!!!!!:(
I fly into Beijing on the 10th of Feb. but instead of riding to Lhasa we are going by train, then 4x4 to Kathmandu where a 500cc Enfield awaits us, to continue on thru Nepal & India for 3 mths. But really really really would of loved to ride across China.:(
Have a great ride !:thumbup1:
Cheers
Paul

Revenue 10 Jan 2012 06:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulD (Post 362432)
I am so envious of you guys doing this trip !!!!!!:(
I fly into Beijing on the 10th of Feb. but instead of riding to Lhasa we are going by train, then 4x4 to Kathmandu where a 500cc Enfield awaits us, to continue on thru Nepal & India for 3 mths. But really really really would of loved to ride across China.:(
Have a great ride !:thumbup1:
Cheers
Paul

Hi Paul
Dont worry there is always another day, might do the trip in reverse in 2013 if i dont move to Auz next year, but head upto Mongolia and Russia then UK.
Its such a shame we cannot get across Myanmar for me its only 600km away and Bangladesh 850km as the bird flys.
Your trip sounds awesome, maybe to cold for me that time of year!
Feel i do need to get a job soon and explore the parts i havnt seen.

Eric

Franki 10 Jan 2012 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revenue (Post 362422)
Franki thanks for the Diamox tip, just been to town 100 250mg tablets 400 baht, about 8 quid. Bought two boxes just in case.
When did you ride the 219???

Eric


Eric,

My doctor friend advised me 250mg tablets dosage one each time, 3 time per day, 3 days before the climb will help with high altitude symtoms. One thing to remember though, stay close to a WC during that period.:rain:

This is the RR I posted of my last ride in 2010, part of it is 219.
China, Tibet - The closest place to heaven & closer to God - ADVrider

Franki

PaulD 10 Jan 2012 10:32

Nepal
 
Eric,
I actually get to do the trip in reverse, as our bikes are presently in Kenya after riding down from Egypt. We have spent a total of 8 months doing this and feel we need a break from Africa, so decided on this as a side trip. But after continuing to Cape Town in Aug, then to Sth. America after Xmas, which we have allocated a year for then of course there is America, Alaska etc then Europe then overland to Nepal again it will be bloody 2016 before I get back !!!!, so by that time with a wee aid of a bit of dementia it should be all new again LOL.:thumbup1:
Cheers
Paul

Revenue 10 Jan 2012 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franki (Post 362445)
Eric,

My doctor friend advised me 250mg tablets dosage one each time, 3 time per day, 3 days before the climb will help with high altitude symtoms. One thing to remember though, stay close to a WC during that period.:rain:

This is the RR I posted of my last ride in 2010, part of it is 219.
China, Tibet - The closest place to heaven & closer to God - ADVrider

Franki

Hi Franki
I have just been reading your thread, words cannot describe the pictures, i am in awe! Some good reading for tonight.
What month did you ride the 219?
Road works will be a problem, its difficult to get accurate information, as the road is closed during the winter months.
Just been reading the label on the Diamox may have to rig up a pipe system to get rid of the excess water, bad enough in cold weather for me.

Ericbier

Revenue 11 Jan 2012 03:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicreuter (Post 362309)
Thanks Franki, some interesting informations and advice in your post.

I appreciate Eric's plan in case of bike related problems; wouldn't like mine to end up the same way as the Bmw Tiffany saw. :nono:


An Abandoned Bike at Chinese Customs
I thought this might be one for the HU Bar Crowd

In the Customs area on the Chinese side of the Irkeshtam Pass, there is a dusty mound hidden away in the corner of the compound. Being a bit on the nosy side I pulled away some of the coverings and underneath there is...
A BMW F650GS

The number plate has been removed, it was impossible to see the engine number and it's so securely wrapped in canvas that I couldn't get to the speedo to see if it's in miles or kms.

It's pretty dusty and looks like it's been there a while.

Any idea who it might belong to?

Hi Vic
Sorry for the late reply, the wife/girlfriend is in Laos probably twice a month with her business, so no problem to meet us at the border just a ride upto Nong Khai cross the Friendship Bridge, then route 13 goes all the way to Mohan, she does not need any excuse to head off to do a bit off shopping.
Once the bike is in Thailand no problems can be stored securely here.
Just a backup plan and would hope we didnt need it, but there just in case.

Eric

Revenue 11 Jan 2012 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revenue (Post 362454)
Hi Franki
I have just been reading your thread, words cannot describe the pictures, i am in awe! Some good reading for tonight.
What month did you ride the 219?
Road works will be a problem, its difficult to get accurate information, as the road is closed during the winter months.
Just been reading the label on the Diamox may have to rig up a pipe system to get rid of the excess water, bad enough in cold weather for me.

Ericbier

Frankie one amazing ride, i hope ours is the same, read all 22 pages
Need to get the instruction manual out for the camera.
Ride safe

Eric

Franki 12 Jan 2012 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revenue (Post 362454)
Hi Franki
I have just been reading your thread, words cannot describe the pictures, i am in awe! Some good reading for tonight.
What month did you ride the 219?
Road works will be a problem, its difficult to get accurate information, as the road is closed during the winter months.
Just been reading the label on the Diamox may have to rig up a pipe system to get rid of the excess water, bad enough in cold weather for me.

Ericbier

Eric,


I am glad that you have enjoyed my thread. I did that trip from May and ended in Aug., 2010 It crossed the rainy season but I was extremely lucky to have good weather. Riders who was 2 weeks before or after my trip had to abandon their trip due to impassable 'road'.

I should have less worry as the 219 section from Lazi to Zichuanhe has already been paved in 2011. I went through there when they are working on it and I have to ride mostly in the field along side the road works.

Your trip will be in Sep. so out side the rainy season. You will have hail storm, snow and strong wind instead. Enjoy.

Franki

Martincito 12 Jan 2012 17:18

Hi Franki,

I also read your RR, one
of the best ones that I've ever read. I loved the pictures, the landscapes and the strong spirit that you guys show in the difficult situations.

One question,
If May-June is the rainy season and in September there is snow and hail, when yo think is the best time of the year for route 219?

Thanks,

Martin

Revenue 13 Jan 2012 03:47

Your trip will be in Sep. so out side the rainy season. You will have hail storm, snow and strong wind instead. Enjoy.

Franki

Hi Franki
Like Martin when is there a good time to go?? Feel i prefer wind and snow to rain. I have tried to leave it late to cross as i really dont want to arrive in Laos /Thailand untill the rainy season has ended, for the last 4 years it has been the end Sept/ Oct, and some of the roads in Laos are dirt roads we will be taking, so better dry!!

Eric

Franki 13 Jan 2012 03:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martincito (Post 362857)
Hi Franki,

I also read your RR, one
of the best ones that I've ever read. I loved the pictures, the landscapes and the strong spirit that you guys show in the difficult situations.

One question,
If May-June is the rainy season and in September there is snow and hail, when yo think is the best time of the year for route 219?

Thanks,

Martin


Hi Martin,

I am sorry that I have not made it clear. I planned to start in May and finish the trip by early July but things happened as you have read and the trip has been prolonged into early Aug. The rainy season is July Aug. where the ground will turn into a big mud pond. A friend of mine on a 125cc spent 7 hours digging his bike out of the mud....

It is better to do the trip in drier season if you want to do the whole length of 219. May, June and Sep is best months but still you will get the elements thrown at you at such altitude. That is why you saw us carrying a tent with us even though we have always managed to find a roof over our head. The tent is our survival kit.

Franki

Revenue 16 Jan 2012 02:18

That is why you saw us carrying a tent with us even though we have always managed to find a roof over our head. The tent is our survival kit.

Franki[/QUOTE]

Good idea, think the tent and a good sleeping bag just incase, would not have thought there was much accomadation along the way, the tourist towns like Lhasa i guess there will be no problems??

E

Franki 16 Jan 2012 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revenue (Post 363332)
That is why you saw us carrying a tent with us even though we have always managed to find a roof over our head. The tent is our survival kit.

Franki

Good idea, think the tent and a good sleeping bag just incase, would not have thought there was much accomadation along the way, the tourist towns like Lhasa i guess there will be no problems??

E[/QUOTE]


Hotel or Hostel can be found a long 219 small towns. I can find a place to stay relatively easy. But as a foreigner, there is a law saying that only certain hotels are allowed to put up foreigners. Having said that, laws are not streightly enforced there. It all depends how good your guide isbier We carry the tent mainly for emergency in the Northern Route where there is a no-man's-land.

Franki


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