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I personally only sign on to write posts or to reset the system so that I receive further email notifications of threads I have subscribed to. Often I don't bother signing on, or log off again immediately and read anonomously. cheers Chris PS. Furthermore, when I have nothing helpful to add to a discussion I say nothing... Hence no need for me to log on. Maybe there are others like me? |
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Here on HUBB that ratio is "typically" 20 to One. IE: 10 members to 200 Visitors. My Internet expert friends explained all this to me ... management here don't want that info shared in public ... Suffice to say, fiddling is going on. .... once again ... not a big deal. |
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How are you able to log on to ADV, if you've been banned on ADV? What skills/training do you have in Bulletin Board technologies to allow you to make these accusations? Or is it just random, easily discretable unfounded conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo? Chris PS. When I know nothing, I say nothing. |
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Such as? I too noticed the auto-bump, and I too was puzzled, at first, by the reappearing thread with a week old T-Rex post. I supposed it was down to the poll being altered and seems I was right based on Alibab's and Chris explanations. Point is I noticed that yet and I hadn't noticed this for non poll threads, so please enlighten, or am I poll-centred? Never seen such a concerted effort to discredit a thread (as opposed to a brand)...:confused1: You're not seriously still miffed at the poll results, are you? |
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Back on topic: No matter what the poll says, I know the Suzuki DR650 is the best! :thumbup1: .............shu |
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B) Why would I care? Wouldn't want to share what? For why? C) Your internet expert friend is an idiot. D) We've been going since 2000 with the HUBB and the number of lurkers has ALWAYS been very high compared to the number that sign in. MOST people are here to LEARN, not spout off. MANY don't speak good English, (we get hits from 150+ countries) and use a translator to READ - so certainly don't feel capable of making an entry, so why sign up? The ratio of lurkers to logged in doesn't bother me at all, why should it bother anyone else? FWIW - we had over a million user sessions last month - not a bad number in anyone's book. E) quite frankly I'm offended :censored: that you would suggest I'm fiddling. You clearly don't get HU or the way we do things here. :ban: |
If anyone can post a url to a thread that bumped and shouldn't have, please do in the website feedback - I'd love to know because it shouldn't happen.
EXCEPT when a spammer hits a thread - I think what can happen is that even though a moderator deletes it, the thread is "new" because it's been edited - even though the new post is gone and it's back the way it was. |
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my Dad used to have a saying... "oh let him have enough rope to hang himself" Well, I think the rope has finally snapped tight. |
Maybe we should leave it to Grant and MickyD .
Let them sort it out behind the scenes . No need for a witch hunt and wayyyyyy:offtopic:. [Now how can I cheat and make Norton the most popular bike in the poll ?] :oops2::ban::innocent: |
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Hey presto, 70 Beemers and 71 Nortons! I'm sure no one would notice. Here's my KLR, somewhere in Indiana- http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t...Donald/16A.jpg And just for fun, an awfully pretty picture from that trip- http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t...lDonald/9A.jpg |
Another BMW! Mine's an 1150GSA :thumbup1:
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There's not many things of which I am sure on the internet, but the fact that HU is a kosher site and there is no fiddling going on is one of them. Likewise, I also think Advrider is pretty straight.
MickeyD, stop smoking that Californian weed, man - it's making you paranoid! |
How can I change my vote from BMW to Yamaha? Just sold the beemer and bought a XT660Z Tenere.
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Anyway, it seems like I'm the only Guzzisti here so far. Here are my choice of steeds:
For travelling (summer), the Quota 1000: http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435 For travelling (winter), the 850 T5 with a Watsonian sidecar: http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435 For travelling to and from work, mostly, but also some small trips, the Griso 850: http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435 For racing (actually I'm building it for my wife, but I might as well be using it next year), the 1979 SP1000 Classic Racer: http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435 I think I'm a bit narrow minded when it comes to bike brands, but I don't think I'm bothering anybody with it so I guess it's ok for me to be a Guzziholic... |
I would love a Guzzi to restore!!
Second best would be a Guzzi 850 squeezed into my Ural chassis! |
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Royal Enfield 350 Bullet... my first touring bike :D I'm like 19 by the way, so not a nostalgic post haha The picture is from from my first trip around UK. |
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Here's my ideal touring machine.
As seen in the latest HUBB calender. I've ridden 10,000's miles on Vespas, all over the UK, Europe, Morocco and India. Simple and efficient. It carriers it's own fully inflated spare wheel, it charges my phone (and sat nav should I ever need one). It can travel all day at 90 - 100kmph. Has plenty of room for luggage. With the Vespa being old, (like me) and being bright orange (not like me), it makes friends really easy (sometimes like me). This picture was taken during my "Long Lay Down" from UK - Morocco - UK |
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The latter really made everyone come over for a talk. It was a 620ccm (changed from 500ccm) with twin spark plug (also a change), double ignition, Reduced flywhell beyond 20 kg. and that bike was able to remain on in idle at some 200-280 rpm. To start it up on the kick, you could lift the valves to make it easier. Once I pulled a Van up from the ditch with that bike. One day I want to own a similar bike again. beerbeer Niklas |
Can I change my vote?
My first 4 cylinder bike ever, so I've now got a choice of 1, 2 or 4 pots, 2-smoke or 4-stroke, German (East or West), British and 2 or 3 wheels :biggrin3:
https://sites.google.com/site/yorksh...cksidecar/home I think I'd be getting a divorce if I completed the set with something 3 cylinder and/or Japanese, American or Italian :eek3: :helpsmilie:. Andy |
what amazes me with the results is that only 3.5% at KTMs?
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Just pointing out that the data as represented in this survey does not correspond with my experience, re people I have met on the road - I reckon in my recent travels 65-70% of bikes I have met in the last 2 years on the road are BMWs or KTMs. Thats twice as many as this survey implies. But thats just my experience. Maybe its just typical of the region I have been travelling in. But for me, the data is not representative at all of vehicles on the remote roads. It has very little correlation with what I see. Thats what I am getting at. |
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An aside: the question in the poll is "what make of travel bike do you own", not "what make of travel bike do you use for travelling (assuming you actually travel anywhere beyond you local Asda)". I think it's much more representative to hear from people like you who are actually out there and doing it and meeting other bike travellers (or possibly looking around the campsite and "car"park at HU meets). cheers C PS How's the bike since you got it back? |
I still havent seen it, let alone got it back. Pretty damn annoyed with Dutch police actually by this stage!
In the last couple of years, if we look at foreign bikers going into regions of Siberia beyond the safety of the Trans Siberian highway (which is now all asphalt) ... Probably the area I know best and the area where I know of the vast majority of trips: I know of ... 3 Honda - 2 x Africa Twins (Marek G in 09 and one of the Macedonians this year) and 1 x XR650L (Gabe) 1 Yamaha XT 660 (Terry) And the rest were KTM and BMWs 3 x KTM400 of the Motosyberia 2009 guys 1 x KTM 640 Adv (the guy who accompanied Gabe on his XR Honda) 8 assorted BMWs (F650 Dakars, F650 twins, F800 and R1200s) on the Compass trip 2 more BMWs on the Macedonian RTW trip (1 x 1200, 1 x 650) 1 BMW F800 2 up (Czech couple) 2 more BMW 650s (Tony P and myself) 1 more BMW 1200 (Oisin) 2 x KTM 950 SEs (Donkey & Mule) 1 more KTM 640 Adv (Barton) 1 x KTM 990 Adv (Joe Pichler) 1 x KTM 690E (Sherri Jo) Thats 9 KTMs (33%) and 14 BMWs (52%) and only 4 bikes (15%) of all other makes put together. For those who have that illogical paranoia about EFI, I would note that every single one of the BMWs was injected, the XT was injected and the 690 and 990 were injected. Thats 63% of the bikes in "Extreme Siberia" I know of in the last 2 years were injected bikes. And who would have guessed - no EFI failures between them. I dont think thats across the board ... I reckon its probably quite regional ... its a particularly tough area. But when the going gets tough, the bikes people seem to turn to in over 90% of cases are either BMWs, KTMs or the odd Africa Twin. I would be interested to see some real world data from Trans-Africa trips too. KTM and BMW riders might rib each other all the time, but are currently (pretty much) the only 2 games in town for tough trips - if stats are anything to go by. Edited: I forgot SJ's KTM |
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In the last 2 years I know of 3 Russians and 4 Kazakhs who have also been from outside into remote parts of Siberia on bikes...
Of those 7 bikes, 2 were BMW G650 X-Challenges (I am obviously not alone in thinking they are are a great real adventure bike), 1 was a KTM 690E, 1 was a BMW F650 Funduro and 3 were Japanese 600-650 singles (types unknown) Thats still almost 60% KTM and BMWs together tho |
Interesting statistics which validate your original point that the KTM showing in the poll is not representative of the the bikes that are out there. I think this poll has become more of a 'what bike(s) do you own' rather than 'what bike do you travel on'.
I don't have any issues with EFI (I have a 690E and a Sherco 4.5i) but I still rate my old R100GS as a better travel bike than many of the modern BMWs. If it is superceded by a more modern bike it will a KTM Adventure PS. Can someone resize that Enfield photo above - it's causing havoc with my browser |
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I'm sure not taking any sort of position on the very dodgy subject of which brand is more suited to what sort of journey. I'm just noticing how different my observations are from yours, perhaps because I've been traveling in different places. Of course the next post will probably be from somewhere in South America by a rider who sees only BMW's and KTM's wherever he/she looks. enjoy, Mark |
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Anywhere where Americans ride (like the Americas) I also suspect will feature more Japanese singles (particularly KLRs) and fewer European bikes. |
I totally agree that it's a regional thing.
Personally I've met lot of KTMs but mainly in Europe and a few in northern Africa (right now northern Africa is more or less limited to Morocco). I haven't seen many Suzukis but I've found the percentage of XTs higher in Africa then in Europe. When it comes to Kawasaki I have hardly seen any but that's probably because my experience is mostly from Asia, Africa and Europe. |
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I think the choice of bike is governed more by market forces and price in the travellers country of origin rather than a carefully considered choice based on spec. or preconceptions about the terrain. GSes have a huge following in the UK and northern Europe. The vast majority have never seen an unpaved road but even so seeing them lined up in Tescos carpark has a significant influence on a prospective traveller looking to buy a bike for a RTW trip.
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In North America, the choice in true dual sports is often viewed as BMW (expensive), KTM (expensive and not too common), Kawasaki KLR (common and cheap), Suzuki DR (common and somewhat more expensive), and sometimes Honda XR (less common and again somewhat more expensive). The big single Yamahas are seldom seen and generally unavailable. Thus: most common once you get into Latin America and away from the pavement are probably Kawasaki, Suzuki and BMW, not necessarily in that order....and a high percentage of the BMW's are ridden by Europeans. I am not trying to state a preference for one over the other, and I'm not addressing prejudices I might have about certain sorts of riders (and/or their branded accessories!). I merely meant to offer a possible explanation for those whose direct observations appeared to contradict the poll results. The above is highly subjective, probably delusional, and should not be subjected to rigid statistical analysis of any sort. Mark |
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rest assured, you are not the only nortonian here. Below a (dodgy) pic of us somewhere close to the White Highlands in Kenya, 1982. Norton Mk3 Commando and BSA A65. Still ride the same A65 and (another) Mk3. |
I guess I like to visit odd places
http://www.our-site.me.uk/bike/larry/P1000186.JPG and http://www.our-site.me.uk/bike/larry/P1000230.JPG |
Paneuropean every time
I have had 3 Paneuropeans one 1100 2 1300s 98000 on the 1100 127000 on the 2004 pan
Now i have a 2009 pan rode Turkey north Africa Russia all europe never and probs good solid bike good on fuel not too hard on tyres first class touring bike..Mike :funmeteryes: |
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You're right, colebatch Among my friends there are 6 KLRs and 1 XRL of the regular riders and we're all past 50.Because KLRs are available and inexpensive. I have three '92 KLRs , why? well who knows. They were all inexpensive . Why not have some back up? The three of them cost me less than $3000.00 in total.With $0 in V.A.T. Wouldn't you? But I digress. The last time I took a multi thousand mile ride I rode my 1981 Yamaha XV 920. Purchased at at swapmeet {auto jumble} for $750.00 , it is low milage , low maintanance and if it gives trouble on the road, "walk awayable" no regrets. I reject catagorization. http://bikebreakerbaker.smugmug.com/...91_KRrUs-L.jpg |
For me familiarity bred contempt, and contempt turned into love-hate. On my last trip I swore down I would never touch an italian bike again but I have now aquired another overland bike that I am prepping for the next trip. It's a 1985 Cagiva, it's been raced and it's near totalled but it only cost 250 quid. I reckon it will cost about 400 to get fully prepped - most of the problems I had with the old one were with the air filter and electrics so I am replacing them all with a custom 'hand-made' loom and airbox and rebuidling the engine before I go anywhere. Whats the worst that can happen? (as I said that 'ironically' it shouldn't jinx me, in theory):D
Bloody British weather, can't wait to get away! |
XT600e duh...
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I'm hoping to add "Triumph" to this list very shortly :)
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following fahion?
Like they always say, it's not what you have but how you use it!
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In an inverse proportion to the size of my gut the bikes are getting smaller with time. All the way down to an XR250R and the best adventure travel bike I have owned - Monkey Bike next on list!
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I usually fly overseas and rent: BMWs, Honda, Kawasaki, Enfield, Yamaha, Suzuki, whatever...
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Anothe 'tick' in the Kawasaki box here. Bought the KLR 650 Tengai with overland trips in mind. Now, after attending the HU weekend in Ripley, i have a better idea on how to prepare the bike.:thumbup1:
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1989 Honda cd250u police spec' neenaw neenaw. 70mpg and 75mph flat out. Never goes wrong and weighs nowt.
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I thank you all for your contributions and for the pictures of some very nice copies of one of my bikes the one and only Honda XRV750 Africa Twin the other bike I have is the one I am going to India on in October a 98 Kawasaki 550GT it has full fairings hard luggage every possible comfort that I could fit because at 48ish I dont really want to be throwing a bike about off road anymore but the AT is the ultimate RELIABLE overlander
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AT? or TA?
A great many bikes are fine for this sort of stuff. It is more down to the rider than the way a motorised wheel turns round. :scooter:
Having said that the AT does have a stalwart following :thumbup1:........................................ .......but surely the XL700 TA is just an evolved AT? :mchappy: |
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This is my first enduro bike after 40 yr. I spent riding sports bikes back in
70tis. from DKW,Horeks,BMW,Z1 then 80tis. GPZ 1100,KZ1300 then 90-is was Ninja 750 ...and last couple years I was on MV AgustaF4 and Ducati 999:D And now as I am 57 and "old bones is hard to heal":( decided to slow down.:funmeterno: Came across in Germany this DR650 `96 with only 9750km for 1250 Euros so disided to ad some bits which I make my self from front and rear racks,bush plate,toolbox,windscreen,DRZ400 fork,braided lines,acerbis 22L...and adding more :thumbup1: for my ultimate trip starting next year and it is going to be : ROUND THE WORLD SOLO:D:scooter: Ride safe Kawazoki |
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Another Africa Twin owner here - though the more rustic (not rusty!) RD04 version.
Mitas E-07 tyres, MIG exhaust and bar risers. http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...d/PIC_0058.jpg |
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Usually POS Ducati 250. Although I couldn't get it into India so I used an Enfield 350 there.
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Honda ST1100 - about 130,000 km on it now, just getting it nicely broken in.
Photo was taken in Romania in September 2011. http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/a...an/Romania.jpg |
Here are mine:
1996 Moto Guzzi California 1100i http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...k/P1010622.jpg 2005 Yamaha XT 250 Serow: http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...fTfNcw60_3.jpg http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/P1000098.jpg 1956 Moto Guzzi cardellino 65cc which will be going over the Alps to Mandello del Lario next year. It is my first restoration project. :Ø) Steve |
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My little old '82 xt550, (mostly !) . 2xTrans Africa, multiple Euro trips and despatch work. Still going strong and cat approved....
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Looks like Iggy (the cat)will be needing extra fish tonight as a royalty reward for looking his best. :biggrin3:
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Scratched around and found a few of my other old bikes on tour.
Camping out on the main track north in Cape York on a cx500 round Australia -1987/1988 Returning through Romania on a trip around the eastern bloc and Turkey on a battered £ 100 Yamaha xs400 called NFA. Strangly one of my all time fav touring bike. - 1989 In India on the ubiquitous Enfield Bullet 500 on a 3 month tour here there and everywhere.-2003 |
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My Kawasaki 8oo Vulcan Classic. Took her over the Alps twice, a few Jochs and the Stelvio. Hopefully she will get me to and around Turkey in June including the Kemaliye Stone Road. I know it is not the obvious overlanding bike but as they say, any bike will do...she did sofar.
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My first bike was a Yamaha AG 200, rock solid, loved it
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2002 xt 600 slow and steady wins the race!
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I have two bikes now Hyosung gt 250 (v-tvin 30 bhp ) and a chinese built 150cc cruiser. I find the cruiser(ish ) bike more useful
as it is easy to fix and consumes so little that you don't worry about it. All viilagers use smilar bikes so I can find parts eassily. A chinese bike in Turkey and the Gt abroad. |
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Since I like smaller bikes it's nice to see that there are many 'normal' bikes here and not only the 'Charlie and Ewan' type of heavyweights.
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I felt kind of sitting in the toilet the whole day, hey that was fun as well. Wish you'll have plenty, that's the way to go! Esteban |
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My journey is for the most part through Spain. Coming in Spain south of Biarritz and then I'm not sure if I should go down in a fairly straight line or take the west part through the Picos, a piece of Portugal and Sevilla. Going all the way down to Tarifa/Gibraltar and going up on the east side of Spain (Sierra Nevada, Barcelona). My real goal is Finestrat near Benidorm because that's where the ashes of my parents is buried. |
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No, really, no worries, it'll be great. You can make a loop around Spain. I'm not in Seville, my home town, but if you plan to get close to Geneva, Switzerland, just tell me, we'll arrange something! You're very welcome in here, so keep in touch and feel free to ask (I'll be "absent" for 2 weeks though) Read this post as well for good ideas: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-advice-63630 I'd then go to Doñana, it's the Mediterranean nature at its most, beautiful. I love Portugal, so I'd go there as well, no doubt. Hope you'll have a great trip, you've got a reason to do it, so wish you the best. |
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Seville, if I take the west Spain/Portugal route, I probably reach around July 20. Will be very hot I think so a short visit. Do you know very special places to see in Seville? Mostly I'm searching for nice buildings. Going inside churches, palaces etc I usually don't do because I don't want to leave my (soft) luggage unattended on my bike. With Doñana you probably mean the national Park near Seville? Thanks a lot for your nice response Esteban! |
It's going to be damn hot, it's the hottest time of the year, so I would remain close to the coast. You'll take nice pics of the urban thermometers if you come to Seville. It's a lovely place, beautiful buildings (Unesco Heritage site), but horribly hot at that time of the year.
Doñana is the national park. Nice trip, bring swimming trunks and lots of sun screen! (Algarve in Portugal and Cadiz towards Tarifa have beautiful beaches, could give you tips). Hats off for your trip. We are going too way from the topic here now, but you can PM whenever you want (I'll answer... whenever I can!:innocent:) Esteban |
I´m using a F800GS.
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I've owned my BMW R100rt 1979 with 14000 miles on the clock for 2 years, I bought it from the second owner, first owner did just 11000m in 30 years.
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We did 2,100km around Vietnam on 110cc Honda's
Mind you, we were only doing on average 60km/h. Reliable little rented things. vette |
My tool!
Didn't do so well in the Patagonian winds ... 3rd time blown off!!
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Yikes... that heavy bike doesn't look very fun to pick up.
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Speed was down to about 40KMH at the best most of the time. We had been parked up in Tres Lagos for three days waiting for the wind to die down .. it did .. but not for long, we got about 5KM's out of Tres Lagos before it blew up again!! I'm sure we must have experienced close to 100KMH winds that day, took us 9 hours to ride 90KM's to Lago Cardiel :funmeterno: :funmeteryes: |
aprilia caponord woudlnt changed it for anything
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Just bought XL 1000 varadero for tour in morocco if health issues allow :mchappy:
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Starting a semi, Trans Continental trip on her 2mro, may the force be with her............and I wont hit her too hard with the hammer when .....its notdoh |
I sold the GoldWing and bought a BMW R1100GS
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How is the trip going and how is the PCX 125 coping with the 7000kms? I hope that you're having a great trip in spite of the hot temperatures, and that it doesn't feel like toilet (as I said) plus sauna! Way to go!:scooter::scooter::scooter: Take care, Esteban |
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10,000 K's since mid May, small tank, hard seat but what a sensational ride.
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Anyway... let me offer the travel bike stats from nearly 900 AMW Trip Reports going back 10 years or more, showing what’s ridden on mostly big trips in the AMZ. Some submit more than one journey on the same bike so as a poll of actual trips done on travel bikes, it's accurate enough. ......................AMW..............HUBB BMW................25.7%.............33.1% Honda..............23.3%.............18.0% Yamaha............16.6%.............18.1% Suzuki..............8.7%..............18.3% Kawasaki..........8.6%..............11% Other...............5%**..............5.5% KTM.................4.7%..............6.5% Enfield..............2.8%..............3.7% Harley..............2.1%..............4.8% Triumph............2.1%..............7.5% Ducati/Cagiva*..1.2%..............6% .......................100%..........<140% Ch * Ducati owned Cag when AMW TRs were started ** No more than 5 of: AJS 350, Bajaj, BSA, Buell, Chang Jiang, Chinese Thing, Gilera, Guzzi, Hyosung, Italjet, Jawa, Jialing, Minsk, MZ, Norton Commando, Pegaso, Peugeot 50, Unknown twin, Ural, Vespa, Vuka |
KTM 950sm for tarmac...BMW R100RS for long rides...KTM250excf for dirt.
Thinking about a RTW trip in a couple of years, maybe on an air-cooled 600 thumper or an R80...have a soft spot for the Beemer airheads. |
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as i am a very obtuse and narrow minded one, i do not understand, since long long time, why should i to ride a more lightweight and useful, as for off road purpose, plastic made bike. So, i'm frankly a Talibiker, as i use a 10 y.o. H-D Dyna to ride the world. Heavy weight, long wheelbase, poor brake system (i mean the original one), poor handling and no off road skills. But that's the only transport mean i own, and that's enough, to me, to pursuit the happiness. Lungastrada - Donato Nicoletti - Phototraveller |
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