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chris 1 Oct 2010 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey D (Post 307139)
HU must have "special" software that continually bumps threads up. Now, why is that? Don't tell me its a glitch. :innocent:


...snip...

Oh Please, give me a break. I guess this helps keep ad rates up? Or? Clearly inaccurate. If there were over 200 people here, more would sign up and post. Yet very few do. :smiliex:

The counters are wholey accurate. As Alibaba reminded you, when somebody votes on a Poll, it bumps. Not a big deal is it?

I personally only sign on to write posts or to reset the system so that I receive further email notifications of threads I have subscribed to. Often I don't bother signing on, or log off again immediately and read anonomously.

cheers
Chris
PS. Furthermore, when I have nothing helpful to add to a discussion I say nothing... Hence no need for me to log on. Maybe there are others like me?

Mickey D 2 Oct 2010 02:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 307457)
The counters are wholey accurate. As Alibaba reminded you, when somebody votes on a Poll, it bumps. Not a big deal is it?

Not a big deal at all ... interesting that the same thing happens on other threads that are NOT Polls.

Mickey D 2 Oct 2010 03:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muskoka (Post 307446)
Oh I don't know about that. I read here a lot before I finally signed on.
If you look at the portal, or adv you will see the same thing, many people who are not signed in but still reading. I never sign in if I am on any else's computer either, no need for someone to be using my account (intentionally or otherwise.)
Just my two bits though.

I've read various forums since 1998. ADV Rider since day one. Typically the RATIO of Lurkers (non members) to Inmates (members) is roughly 50/50 or possibly 60/40 in favor of Lurkers.

Here on HUBB that ratio is "typically" 20 to One. IE: 10 members to 200 Visitors. My Internet expert friends explained all this to me ... management here don't want that info shared in public ... Suffice to say, fiddling is going on. .... once again ... not a big deal.

chris 2 Oct 2010 11:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey D (Post 307481)
I've read various forums since 1998. ADV Rider since day one. Typically the RATIO of Lurkers (non members) to Inmates (members) is roughly 50/50 or possibly 60/40 in favor of Lurkers.

Here on HUBB that ratio is "typically" 20 to One. IE: 10 members to 200 Visitors. My Internet expert friends explained all this to me ... management here don't want that info shared in public ... Suffice to say, fiddling is going on. .... once again ... not a big deal.


How are you able to log on to ADV, if you've been banned on ADV?

What skills/training do you have in Bulletin Board technologies to allow you to make these accusations? Or is it just random, easily discretable unfounded conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo?
Chris

PS. When I know nothing, I say nothing.

Warthog 2 Oct 2010 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey D (Post 307480)
interesting that the same thing happens on other threads that are NOT Polls.


Such as?

I too noticed the auto-bump, and I too was puzzled, at first, by the reappearing thread with a week old T-Rex post.
I supposed it was down to the poll being altered and seems I was right based on Alibab's and Chris explanations.

Point is I noticed that yet and I hadn't noticed this for non poll threads, so please enlighten, or am I poll-centred?

Never seen such a concerted effort to discredit a thread (as opposed to a brand)...:confused1:

You're not seriously still miffed at the poll results, are you?

chris 2 Oct 2010 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warthog (Post 307511)

Never seen such a concerted effort to discredit a thread (as opposed to a brand)...:confused1:

It seems like a feeble effort to discredit HU... :ban:

Warthog 2 Oct 2010 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 307516)
It seems like a feeble effort to discredit HU... :ban:

Makes one wonder why would one choose to spend soooo much time on here...:confused1:

adrian74 2 Oct 2010 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 307516)
It seems like a feeble effort to discredit HU... :ban:

Looks like Im not the only one to notice this!:thumbdown:

shu... 2 Oct 2010 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 307507)
When I know nothing, I say nothing.

I know nothing.........and I rarely get involved. In this case it seems that everyone is getting a little testy over not-too-much. Who cares?

Back on topic:
No matter what the poll says, I know the Suzuki DR650 is the best! :thumbup1:

.............shu

Grant Johnson 2 Oct 2010 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey D (Post 307481)
I've read various forums since 1998. ADV Rider since day one. Typically the RATIO of Lurkers (non members) to Inmates (members) is roughly 50/50 or possibly 60/40 in favor of Lurkers.

Here on HUBB that ratio is "typically" 20 to One. IE: 10 members to 200 Visitors. My Internet expert friends explained all this to me ... management here don't want that info shared in public ... Suffice to say, fiddling is going on. .... once again ... not a big deal.

A) There is no fiddling - I wouldn't know how to fiddle it!
B) Why would I care? Wouldn't want to share what? For why?
C) Your internet expert friend is an idiot.
D) We've been going since 2000 with the HUBB and the number of lurkers has ALWAYS been very high compared to the number that sign in. MOST people are here to LEARN, not spout off. MANY don't speak good English, (we get hits from 150+ countries) and use a translator to READ - so certainly don't feel capable of making an entry, so why sign up? The ratio of lurkers to logged in doesn't bother me at all, why should it bother anyone else?
FWIW - we had over a million user sessions last month - not a bad number in anyone's book.
E) quite frankly I'm offended :censored: that you would suggest I'm fiddling. You clearly don't get HU or the way we do things here.
:ban:

Grant Johnson 2 Oct 2010 23:28

If anyone can post a url to a thread that bumped and shouldn't have, please do in the website feedback - I'd love to know because it shouldn't happen.

EXCEPT when a spammer hits a thread - I think what can happen is that even though a moderator deletes it, the thread is "new" because it's been edited - even though the new post is gone and it's back the way it was.

adrian74 3 Oct 2010 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey D (Post 307481)
I've read various forums since 1998. ADV Rider since day one. Typically the RATIO of Lurkers (non members) to Inmates (members) is roughly 50/50 or possibly 60/40 in favor of Lurkers.

Here on HUBB that ratio is "typically" 20 to One. IE: 10 members to 200 Visitors. My Internet expert friends explained all this to me ... management here don't want that info shared in public ... Suffice to say, fiddling is going on. .... once again ... not a big deal.

Unbelievable......
my Dad used to have a saying...

"oh let him have enough rope to hang himself"

Well, I think the rope has finally snapped tight.

Dodger 3 Oct 2010 05:13

Maybe we should leave it to Grant and MickyD .
Let them sort it out behind the scenes .
No need for a witch hunt and wayyyyyy:offtopic:.

[Now how can I cheat and make Norton the most popular bike in the poll ?] :oops2::ban::innocent:

Evil Donald 7 Oct 2010 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodger (Post 307628)

[Now how can I cheat and make Norton the most popular bike in the poll ?]

Well, as of right now there are 70 BMWs and one Norton. So you simply need to create 70 accounts and have each of them magically own a Norton.

Hey presto, 70 Beemers and 71 Nortons!

I'm sure no one would notice.

Here's my KLR, somewhere in Indiana-
http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t...Donald/16A.jpg

And just for fun, an awfully pretty picture from that trip-
http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t...lDonald/9A.jpg

Glenboy 7 Oct 2010 10:14

Another BMW! Mine's an 1150GSA :thumbup1:

docsherlock 9 Oct 2010 02:27

There's not many things of which I am sure on the internet, but the fact that HU is a kosher site and there is no fiddling going on is one of them. Likewise, I also think Advrider is pretty straight.

MickeyD, stop smoking that Californian weed, man - it's making you paranoid!

mj 14 Oct 2010 13:11

How can I change my vote from BMW to Yamaha? Just sold the beemer and bought a XT660Z Tenere.

*Touring Ted* 20 Oct 2010 08:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by mj (Post 308959)
How can I change my vote from BMW to Yamaha? Just sold the beemer and bought a XT660Z Tenere.

you cant !!!

Nice change of brand though !! :D

mj 20 Oct 2010 08:37

I knew you'd like it :)

indu 20 Oct 2010 18:38

Anyway, it seems like I'm the only Guzzisti here so far. Here are my choice of steeds:

For travelling (summer), the Quota 1000:

http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435

For travelling (winter), the 850 T5 with a Watsonian sidecar:

http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435

For travelling to and from work, mostly, but also some small trips, the Griso 850:

http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435


For racing (actually I'm building it for my wife, but I might as well be using it next year), the 1979 SP1000 Classic Racer:

http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435


I think I'm a bit narrow minded when it comes to bike brands, but I don't think I'm bothering anybody with it so I guess it's ok for me to be a Guzziholic...

Warthog 21 Oct 2010 20:38

I would love a Guzzi to restore!!

Second best would be a Guzzi 850 squeezed into my Ural chassis!

JakeCakes 24 Oct 2010 13:33

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/p...f9200small.jpg

Royal Enfield 350 Bullet... my first touring bike :D
I'm like 19 by the way, so not a nostalgic post haha
The picture is from from my first trip around UK.

bholinath 24 Oct 2010 20:34

Vespa
 
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Here's my ideal touring machine.
As seen in the latest HUBB calender.
I've ridden 10,000's miles on Vespas, all over the UK, Europe, Morocco and India.
Simple and efficient. It carriers it's own fully inflated spare wheel,
it charges my phone (and sat nav should I ever need one).
It can travel all day at 90 - 100kmph. Has plenty of room for luggage.
With the Vespa being old, (like me) and being bright orange (not like me), it makes friends really easy (sometimes like me).
This picture was taken during my "Long Lay Down" from UK - Morocco - UK

Niklas 9 Nov 2010 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by indu (Post 309609)
Anyway, it seems like I'm the only Guzzisti here so far. Here are my choice of steeds:

For travelling (summer), the Quota 1000:

http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435

For travelling (winter), the 850 T5 with a Watsonian sidecar:

http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435

For travelling to and from work, mostly, but also some small trips, the Griso 850:

http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435


For racing (actually I'm building it for my wife, but I might as well be using it next year), the 1979 SP1000 Classic Racer:

http://www.eurofoto.no/show_image_st...&dx=580&dy=435


I think I'm a bit narrow minded when it comes to bike brands, but I don't think I'm bothering anybody with it so I guess it's ok for me to be a Guzziholic...

I used to have the Le Mans, the T4 and the Falcone.
The latter really made everyone come over for a talk.
It was a 620ccm (changed from 500ccm) with twin spark plug (also a change), double ignition, Reduced flywhell beyond 20 kg. and that bike was able to remain on in idle at some 200-280 rpm.

To start it up on the kick, you could lift the valves to make it easier.

Once I pulled a Van up from the ditch with that bike.

One day I want to own a similar bike again.
beerbeer

Niklas

Threewheelbonnie 9 Nov 2010 17:57

Can I change my vote?
 
My first 4 cylinder bike ever, so I've now got a choice of 1, 2 or 4 pots, 2-smoke or 4-stroke, German (East or West), British and 2 or 3 wheels :biggrin3:

https://sites.google.com/site/yorksh...cksidecar/home

I think I'd be getting a divorce if I completed the set with something 3 cylinder and/or Japanese, American or Italian :eek3: :helpsmilie:.

Andy

colebatch 11 Nov 2010 17:00

what amazes me with the results is that only 3.5% at KTMs?

That cant be right. I certainly meet a lot more of them on the road than 1 in 30 bikes.

chris 11 Nov 2010 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by colebatch (Post 312234)
what amazes me with the results is that only 3.5% at KTMs?

That cant be right. I certainly meet a lot more of them on the road than 1 in 30 bikes.

Maybe their owners are too busy riding them and don't have the time to contribute to this poll :scooter: ....

Magnon 11 Nov 2010 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 312236)
Maybe their owners are too busy riding them and don't have the time to contribute to this poll :scooter: ....

What does that say about the BMW owners then!

colebatch 11 Nov 2010 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnon (Post 312241)
What does that say about the BMW owners then!

Nothing in particular. I am not a brand freak. I actually reckon the BMW numbers are also under-represented from my own experience.

Just pointing out that the data as represented in this survey does not correspond with my experience, re people I have met on the road - I reckon in my recent travels 65-70% of bikes I have met in the last 2 years on the road are BMWs or KTMs. Thats twice as many as this survey implies.

But thats just my experience. Maybe its just typical of the region I have been travelling in. But for me, the data is not representative at all of vehicles on the remote roads. It has very little correlation with what I see. Thats what I am getting at.

chris 11 Nov 2010 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by colebatch (Post 312244)
It has very little correlation with what I see. Thats what I am getting at.

You'd have to agree if the accusations of "voting iregularities" :rofl: discussed earlier in this thread are anything to go by.

An aside: the question in the poll is "what make of travel bike do you own", not "what make of travel bike do you use for travelling (assuming you actually travel anywhere beyond you local Asda)".

I think it's much more representative to hear from people like you who are actually out there and doing it and meeting other bike travellers (or possibly looking around the campsite and "car"park at HU meets).

cheers
C

PS How's the bike since you got it back?

colebatch 12 Nov 2010 10:13

I still havent seen it, let alone got it back. Pretty damn annoyed with Dutch police actually by this stage!

In the last couple of years, if we look at foreign bikers going into regions of Siberia beyond the safety of the Trans Siberian highway (which is now all asphalt) ... Probably the area I know best and the area where I know of the vast majority of trips:
I know of ...

3 Honda - 2 x Africa Twins (Marek G in 09 and one of the Macedonians this year) and 1 x XR650L (Gabe)
1 Yamaha XT 660 (Terry)

And the rest were KTM and BMWs
3 x KTM400 of the Motosyberia 2009 guys
1 x KTM 640 Adv (the guy who accompanied Gabe on his XR Honda)
8 assorted BMWs (F650 Dakars, F650 twins, F800 and R1200s) on the Compass trip
2 more BMWs on the Macedonian RTW trip (1 x 1200, 1 x 650)
1 BMW F800 2 up (Czech couple)
2 more BMW 650s (Tony P and myself)
1 more BMW 1200 (Oisin)
2 x KTM 950 SEs (Donkey & Mule)
1 more KTM 640 Adv (Barton)
1 x KTM 990 Adv (Joe Pichler)
1 x KTM 690E (Sherri Jo)

Thats 9 KTMs (33%) and 14 BMWs (52%) and only 4 bikes (15%) of all other makes put together.
For those who have that illogical paranoia about EFI, I would note that every single one of the BMWs was injected, the XT was injected and the 690 and 990 were injected.
Thats 63% of the bikes in "Extreme Siberia" I know of in the last 2 years were injected bikes. And who would have guessed - no EFI failures between them.

I dont think thats across the board ... I reckon its probably quite regional ... its a particularly tough area. But when the going gets tough, the bikes people seem to turn to in over 90% of cases are either BMWs, KTMs or the odd Africa Twin.

I would be interested to see some real world data from Trans-Africa trips too.

KTM and BMW riders might rib each other all the time, but are currently (pretty much) the only 2 games in town for tough trips - if stats are anything to go by.

Edited: I forgot SJ's KTM

colebatch 12 Nov 2010 10:29

Local guys
 
In the last 2 years I know of 3 Russians and 4 Kazakhs who have also been from outside into remote parts of Siberia on bikes...

Of those 7 bikes,
2 were BMW G650 X-Challenges (I am obviously not alone in thinking they are are a great real adventure bike),
1 was a KTM 690E,
1 was a BMW F650 Funduro
and 3 were Japanese 600-650 singles (types unknown)


Thats still almost 60% KTM and BMWs together tho

Magnon 12 Nov 2010 12:48

Interesting statistics which validate your original point that the KTM showing in the poll is not representative of the the bikes that are out there. I think this poll has become more of a 'what bike(s) do you own' rather than 'what bike do you travel on'.

I don't have any issues with EFI (I have a 690E and a Sherco 4.5i) but I still rate my old R100GS as a better travel bike than many of the modern BMWs. If it is superceded by a more modern bike it will a KTM Adventure

PS. Can someone resize that Enfield photo above - it's causing havoc with my browser

colebatch 12 Nov 2010 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnon (Post 312326)

PS. Can someone resize that Enfield photo above - it's causing havoc with my browser

+1 ... please resize it

markharf 12 Nov 2010 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by colebatch (Post 312314)
KTM and BMW riders might rib each other all the time, but are currently (pretty much) the only 2 games in town for tough trips - if stats are anything to go by.

Your sample, of course, is biased by virtue of your location. Probably you'd draw the same conclusions in North Africa. In North, Central and South America I think you'd find more Kawasakis and Suzukis, much the same number of Yamahas, somewhat fewer BMW's and far fewer KTM's. This might explain the distribution in the poll results.....or not.

I'm sure not taking any sort of position on the very dodgy subject of which brand is more suited to what sort of journey. I'm just noticing how different my observations are from yours, perhaps because I've been traveling in different places.

Of course the next post will probably be from somewhere in South America by a rider who sees only BMW's and KTM's wherever he/she looks.

enjoy,

Mark

colebatch 13 Nov 2010 12:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by markharf (Post 312373)
Your sample, of course, is biased by virtue of your location.

Yes I did point that out ... that I suspected it was regionally biased.

Anywhere where Americans ride (like the Americas) I also suspect will feature more Japanese singles (particularly KLRs) and fewer European bikes.

AliBaba 13 Nov 2010 13:31

I totally agree that it's a regional thing.

Personally I've met lot of KTMs but mainly in Europe and a few in northern Africa (right now northern Africa is more or less limited to Morocco). I haven't seen many Suzukis but I've found the percentage of XTs higher in Africa then in Europe.
When it comes to Kawasaki I have hardly seen any but that's probably because my experience is mostly from Asia, Africa and Europe.

colebatch 13 Nov 2010 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliBaba (Post 312437)
When it comes to Kawasaki I have hardly seen any but that's probably because my experience is mostly from Asia, Africa and Europe.

Agree. They basically dont exist as a dual sport brand in Europe. When Europeans think of single cylinder Japanese dual sport bikes, they typically think of Suzuki DR/DRZs, Yamaha XTs or Honda XRs. I think the KLR never took off here because of the weight. They are 20kgs more than their peers.

Magnon 13 Nov 2010 18:32

I think the choice of bike is governed more by market forces and price in the travellers country of origin rather than a carefully considered choice based on spec. or preconceptions about the terrain. GSes have a huge following in the UK and northern Europe. The vast majority have never seen an unpaved road but even so seeing them lined up in Tescos carpark has a significant influence on a prospective traveller looking to buy a bike for a RTW trip.

Those who are lucky enough to do a second trip are able to make a more considered choice based on experience, although it is interesting on Chris Scotts trip reports the number of people who say they would use the same bike again despite it downsides.

markharf 13 Nov 2010 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnon (Post 312474)
it is interesting on Chris Scotts trip reports the number of people who say they would use the same bike again despite it downsides.

If I were looking at another major trip, I'd be powerfully tempted to buy the same bike as the one I just finished wearing out simply because I've got several thousand dollars worth of transferable touring gear attached to it. Also: a stash of spare parts and a degree of familiarity with the bike with all its strengths and weaknesses. The last thing I want to do is spend loads of money and time accumulating all the stuff I've already got.

In North America, the choice in true dual sports is often viewed as BMW (expensive), KTM (expensive and not too common), Kawasaki KLR (common and cheap), Suzuki DR (common and somewhat more expensive), and sometimes Honda XR (less common and again somewhat more expensive). The big single Yamahas are seldom seen and generally unavailable.

Thus: most common once you get into Latin America and away from the pavement are probably Kawasaki, Suzuki and BMW, not necessarily in that order....and a high percentage of the BMW's are ridden by Europeans.

I am not trying to state a preference for one over the other, and I'm not addressing prejudices I might have about certain sorts of riders (and/or their branded accessories!). I merely meant to offer a possible explanation for those whose direct observations appeared to contradict the poll results.

The above is highly subjective, probably delusional, and should not be subjected to rigid statistical analysis of any sort.

Mark

Magnon 13 Nov 2010 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by markharf (Post 312481)
The above is highly subjective, probably delusional, and should not be subjected to rigid statistical analysis of any sort.

Great disclaimer

La Ponderosa 25 Nov 2010 19:41

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Maybe we should leave it to Grant and MickyD .
Let them sort it out behind the scenes .
No need for a witch hunt and wayyyyyy:offtopic:.

[Now how can I cheat and make Norton the most popular bike in the poll ?] :oops2::ban::innocent:
Hi Dodger,
rest assured, you are not the only nortonian here.
Below a (dodgy) pic of us somewhere close to the White Highlands in Kenya, 1982.
Norton Mk3 Commando and BSA A65.
Still ride the same A65 and (another) Mk3.

oldbmw 25 Nov 2010 23:31

I guess I like to visit odd places

http://www.our-site.me.uk/bike/larry/P1000186.JPG

and

http://www.our-site.me.uk/bike/larry/P1000230.JPG

bluewinger 26 Nov 2010 13:16

Paneuropean every time
 
I have had 3 Paneuropeans one 1100 2 1300s 98000 on the 1100 127000 on the 2004 pan
Now i have a 2009 pan rode Turkey north Africa Russia all europe never and probs good solid bike good on fuel not too hard on tyres first class touring bike..Mike
:funmeteryes:

kbikey 21 Dec 2010 04:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by colebatch (Post 312433)
Yes I did point that out ... that I suspected it was regionally biased.

Anywhere where Americans ride (like the Americas) I also suspect will feature more Japanese singles (particularly KLRs) and fewer European bikes.


You're right, colebatch

Among my friends there are 6 KLRs and 1 XRL of the regular riders and we're all past 50.Because KLRs are available and inexpensive. I have three '92 KLRs , why? well who knows. They were all inexpensive . Why not have some back up? The three of them cost me less than $3000.00 in total.With $0 in V.A.T. Wouldn't you?
But I digress. The last time I took a multi thousand mile ride I rode my 1981 Yamaha XV 920. Purchased at at swapmeet {auto jumble} for $750.00 , it is low milage , low maintanance and if it gives trouble on the road, "walk awayable" no regrets.
I reject catagorization.
http://bikebreakerbaker.smugmug.com/...91_KRrUs-L.jpg

henryuk 23 Dec 2010 14:50

For me familiarity bred contempt, and contempt turned into love-hate. On my last trip I swore down I would never touch an italian bike again but I have now aquired another overland bike that I am prepping for the next trip. It's a 1985 Cagiva, it's been raced and it's near totalled but it only cost 250 quid. I reckon it will cost about 400 to get fully prepped - most of the problems I had with the old one were with the air filter and electrics so I am replacing them all with a custom 'hand-made' loom and airbox and rebuidling the engine before I go anywhere. Whats the worst that can happen? (as I said that 'ironically' it shouldn't jinx me, in theory):D

Bloody British weather, can't wait to get away!

zjwannie 20 Apr 2011 09:49

XT600e duh...

*Touring Ted* 9 May 2011 11:53

I'm hoping to add "Triumph" to this list very shortly :)

Yamahapoweredmandolin 13 May 2011 12:56

following fahion?
 
Like they always say, it's not what you have but how you use it!

Lee @ Interpreter Live 24 Jun 2011 09:29

In an inverse proportion to the size of my gut the bikes are getting smaller with time. All the way down to an XR250R and the best adventure travel bike I have owned - Monkey Bike next on list!

*Touring Ted* 24 Jun 2011 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee @ Interpreter Live (Post 340252)
In an inverse proportion to the size of my gut the bikes are getting smaller with time. All the way down to an XR250R and the best adventure travel bike I have owned - Monkey Bike next on list!

My bike's change with my wasteline too... I went on a 400cc diet and now i've spread out to a 650..

jeiger

brclarke 10 Jul 2011 17:10

I usually fly overseas and rent: BMWs, Honda, Kawasaki, Enfield, Yamaha, Suzuki, whatever...

emsee 11 Jul 2011 21:37

Anothe 'tick' in the Kawasaki box here. Bought the KLR 650 Tengai with overland trips in mind. Now, after attending the HU weekend in Ripley, i have a better idea on how to prepare the bike.:thumbup1:
http://www.boxhill.co.uk/forum/phpBB...hp?pic_id=7495

Tenere99 12 Aug 2011 10:11

!
 
1989 Honda cd250u police spec' neenaw neenaw. 70mpg and 75mph flat out. Never goes wrong and weighs nowt.

THEHAPPYWANDERER 12 Aug 2011 16:52

The TRUE OVERLANDER
 
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I thank you all for your contributions and for the pictures of some very nice copies of one of my bikes the one and only Honda XRV750 Africa Twin the other bike I have is the one I am going to India on in October a 98 Kawasaki 550GT it has full fairings hard luggage every possible comfort that I could fit because at 48ish I dont really want to be throwing a bike about off road anymore but the AT is the ultimate RELIABLE overlander
:scooter:Billy

RTWbyBIKE.com 13 Aug 2011 08:24

"One to rule them all"

http://www.rtwbybike.com/tmp/at.jpg

Ste1 5 Oct 2011 07:11

AT? or TA?
 
A great many bikes are fine for this sort of stuff. It is more down to the rider than the way a motorised wheel turns round. :scooter:
Having said that the AT does have a stalwart following :thumbup1:........................................ .......but surely the XL700 TA is just an evolved AT? :mchappy:

roadruns 6 Oct 2011 22:41

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Versys

kawazoki 10 Oct 2011 21:51

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This is my first enduro bike after 40 yr. I spent riding sports bikes back in
70tis. from DKW,Horeks,BMW,Z1 then 80tis. GPZ 1100,KZ1300 then 90-is was
Ninja 750 ...and last couple years I was on MV AgustaF4 and Ducati 999:D
And now as I am 57 and "old bones is hard to heal":( decided to slow down.:funmeterno:
Came across in Germany this DR650 `96 with only 9750km for 1250 Euros so disided to ad some bits which I make my self from front and rear racks,bush plate,toolbox,windscreen,DRZ400 fork,braided lines,acerbis 22L...and adding more :thumbup1: for my ultimate trip starting next year and it is going to be :

ROUND THE WORLD SOLO:D:scooter:

Ride safe Kawazoki

Grumbleweed 14 Oct 2011 15:09

At
 
Another Africa Twin owner here - though the more rustic (not rusty!) RD04 version.

Mitas E-07 tyres, MIG exhaust and bar risers.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...d/PIC_0058.jpg

RTWbyBIKE.com 14 Oct 2011 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumbleweed (Post 352509)
Another Africa Twin owner here - though the more rustic (not rusty!) RD04 version.

Mitas E-07 tyres, MIG exhaust and bar risers.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...d/PIC_0058.jpg

more blue and PINK for sure! :D

I dont care about the color as long its BLACK! bier

Grumbleweed 14 Oct 2011 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikerIn (Post 352511)
more blue and PINK for sure! :D

I dont care about the color as long its BLACK! bier

Just love the 80's german ski instructor colours!

DaveSmith 16 Oct 2011 08:41

Usually POS Ducati 250. Although I couldn't get it into India so I used an Enfield 350 there.

http://www.nokilli.com/rtw/images/da...hducati004.jpg

PanEuropean 29 Oct 2011 05:33

Honda ST1100 - about 130,000 km on it now, just getting it nicely broken in.

Photo was taken in Romania in September 2011.

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/a...an/Romania.jpg

steveindenmark 8 Nov 2011 16:28

Here are mine:

1996 Moto Guzzi California 1100i

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...k/P1010622.jpg

2005 Yamaha XT 250 Serow:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...fTfNcw60_3.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/P1000098.jpg

1956 Moto Guzzi cardellino 65cc which will be going over the Alps to Mandello del Lario next year. It is my first restoration project. :Ø)

Steve

A.L.F 10 Nov 2011 08:34

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My little old '82 xt550, (mostly !) . 2xTrans Africa, multiple Euro trips and despatch work. Still going strong and cat approved....

chris 10 Nov 2011 20:29

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Originally Posted by A.L.F (Post 355443)
My little old '82 xt550, (mostly !) . 2xTrans Africa, multiple Euro trips and despatch work. Still going strong and cat approved....

What a great looking bike (and cat)! Much better than the random plastic nonsense that doubles for an adv bike today.

A.L.F 12 Nov 2011 17:57

Looks like Iggy (the cat)will be needing extra fish tonight as a royalty reward for looking his best. :biggrin3:

A.L.F 13 Nov 2011 19:17

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Scratched around and found a few of my other old bikes on tour.

Camping out on the main track north in Cape York on a cx500 round Australia -1987/1988

Returning through Romania on a trip around the eastern bloc and Turkey on a battered £ 100 Yamaha xs400 called NFA. Strangly one of my all time fav touring bike. - 1989

In India on the ubiquitous Enfield Bullet 500 on a 3 month tour here there and everywhere.-2003

spooky 17 Dec 2011 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeCakes (Post 310062)
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/p...f9200small.jpg

Royal Enfield 350 Bullet... my first touring bike :D
I'm like 19 by the way, so not a nostalgic post haha
The picture is from from my first trip around UK.

AAAHHH hey... I know where that picture was made... :D used to live and work near by (actually in Witney) and passed that spot endless times... what a small world... bier

_CY_ 20 Jan 2012 02:52

still getting acquainted ... R80G/S

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...01120002-1.jpg

Robertsmits 8 Feb 2012 21:38

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My Kawasaki 8oo Vulcan Classic. Took her over the Alps twice, a few Jochs and the Stelvio. Hopefully she will get me to and around Turkey in June including the Kemaliye Stone Road. I know it is not the obvious overlanding bike but as they say, any bike will do...she did sofar.
Rob. Attachment 6084

hellcoder 17 Feb 2012 18:36

My first bike was a Yamaha AG 200, rock solid, loved it

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...3/DSCN3307.JPG

kelverton 15 Mar 2012 21:35

2002 xt 600 slow and steady wins the race!

ethemhakangencer 4 Apr 2012 09:27

I have two bikes now Hyosung gt 250 (v-tvin 30 bhp ) and a chinese built 150cc cruiser. I find the cruiser(ish ) bike more useful
as it is easy to fix and consumes so little that you don't worry about it. All viilagers use smilar bikes so I can find parts eassily.
A chinese bike in Turkey and the Gt abroad.

gemmasun 4 Apr 2012 20:47

We're off to Africa on these
 
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Cool eh?

duive01 10 Apr 2012 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by gemmasun (Post 374087)
Cool eh?

Cool indeed but what are they?

duive01 10 Apr 2012 11:09

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Since I like smaller bikes it's nice to see that there are many 'normal' bikes here and not only the 'Charlie and Ewan' type of heavyweights.

I'm going on a 7000km trip through Europe on a Honda PCX 125.

estebangc 11 Apr 2012 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by duive01 (Post 374765)
Since I like smaller bikes it's nice to see that there are many 'normal' bikes here and not only the 'Charlie and Ewan' type of heavyweights.

I'm going on a 7000km trip through Europe on a Honda PCX 125.

I rode 950 kms on a PCX 125 last weeked (3 full days) in Spain with a couple of friends on Vespas (actually, one blew up his and ended up on a GS 1200, cheater). Nice bike, consumes very little (steep rise if you you pass 80 km/h on the clock), more than enough.

I felt kind of sitting in the toilet the whole day, hey that was fun as well. Wish you'll have plenty, that's the way to go!

Esteban

duive01 12 Apr 2012 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by estebangc (Post 374910)
I rode 950 kms on a PCX 125 last weeked (3 full days) in Spain with a couple of friends on Vespas (actually, one blew up his and ended up on a GS 1200, cheater). Nice bike, consumes very little (steep rise if you you pass 80 km/h on the clock), more than enough.

I felt kind of sitting in the toilet the whole day, hey that was fun as well. Wish you'll have plenty, that's the way to go!

Esteban

Thanks Esteban, was the toilet sitting well for those 950 km's?
My journey is for the most part through Spain. Coming in Spain south of Biarritz and then I'm not sure if I should go down in a fairly straight line or take the west part through the Picos, a piece of Portugal and Sevilla. Going all the way down to Tarifa/Gibraltar and going up on the east side of Spain (Sierra Nevada, Barcelona). My real goal is Finestrat near Benidorm because that's where the ashes of my parents is buried.

estebangc 12 Apr 2012 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by duive01 (Post 375131)
Thanks Esteban, was the toilet sitting well for those 950 km's?
My journey is for the most part through Spain. Coming in Spain south of Biarritz and then I'm not sure if I should go down in a fairly straight line or take the west part through the Picos, a piece of Portugal and Sevilla. Going all the way down to Tarifa/Gibraltar and going up on the east side of Spain (Sierra Nevada, Barcelona). My real goal is Finestrat near Benidorm because that's where the ashes of my parents is buried.

It was great, I enjoyed it a lot. I only missed a magazine to read! :-)
No, really, no worries, it'll be great.

You can make a loop around Spain. I'm not in Seville, my home town, but if you plan to get close to Geneva, Switzerland, just tell me, we'll arrange something! You're very welcome in here, so keep in touch and feel free to ask (I'll be "absent" for 2 weeks though)

Read this post as well for good ideas: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-advice-63630

I'd then go to Doñana, it's the Mediterranean nature at its most, beautiful. I love Portugal, so I'd go there as well, no doubt.

Hope you'll have a great trip, you've got a reason to do it, so wish you the best.

duive01 12 Apr 2012 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by estebangc (Post 375133)
It was great, I enjoyed it a lot. I only missed a magazine to read! :-)
No, really, no worries, it'll be great.

You can make a loop around Spain. I'm not in Seville, my home town, but if you plan to get close to Geneva, Switzerland, just tell me, we'll arrange something! You're very welcome in here, so keep in touch and feel free to ask (I'll be "absent" for 2 weeks though)

Read this post as well for good ideas: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...e-advice-63630

I'd then go to Doñana, it's the Mediterranean nature at its most, beautiful. I love Portugal, so I'd go there as well, no doubt.

Hope you'll have a great trip, you've got a reason to do it, so wish you the best.

I'm not going to Geneva, too far east for this trip. I was close twice last year, once Lausanne on a trip (3900km) through the Alps to Italy on a BMW F650. Later Nyon on a Honda Zoomer 50, brought with me to the Haut-Jura on a trailer. But I'm not a great fan of riding through big cities unless they are really worth it.
Seville, if I take the west Spain/Portugal route, I probably reach around July 20. Will be very hot I think so a short visit. Do you know very special places to see in Seville? Mostly I'm searching for nice buildings. Going inside churches, palaces etc I usually don't do because I don't want to leave my (soft) luggage unattended on my bike.

With Doñana you probably mean the national Park near Seville?

Thanks a lot for your nice response Esteban!

estebangc 13 Apr 2012 13:16

It's going to be damn hot, it's the hottest time of the year, so I would remain close to the coast. You'll take nice pics of the urban thermometers if you come to Seville. It's a lovely place, beautiful buildings (Unesco Heritage site), but horribly hot at that time of the year.

Doñana is the national park.

Nice trip, bring swimming trunks and lots of sun screen! (Algarve in Portugal and Cadiz towards Tarifa have beautiful beaches, could give you tips). Hats off for your trip.

We are going too way from the topic here now, but you can PM whenever you want (I'll answer... whenever I can!:innocent:)

Esteban

E.Gadelha 16 Apr 2012 03:57

I´m using a F800GS.

colebatch 26 Apr 2012 16:26

Need to start a Husaberg section .... bier

norfolkjack 29 Apr 2012 20:11

airhead
 
I've owned my BMW R100rt 1979 with 14000 miles on the clock for 2 years, I bought it from the second owner, first owner did just 11000m in 30 years.

uk_vette 1 May 2012 04:55

We did 2,100km around Vietnam on 110cc Honda's

Mind you, we were only doing on average 60km/h.

Reliable little rented things.

vette

panhandle1300 10 May 2012 09:54

My tool!
 
Didn't do so well in the Patagonian winds ... 3rd time blown off!!

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h7...3/DSCF2129.jpg

Handled the Dalton Highway no problem tho :-)

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h7...3/P7310032.jpg

_CY_ 10 May 2012 15:05

Yikes... that heavy bike doesn't look very fun to pick up.
how fast were you going when it got blown over?

panhandle1300 10 May 2012 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by _CY_ (Post 378550)
Yikes... that heavy bike doesn't look very fun to pick up.
how fast were you going when it got blown over?

LOL ... We were lucky, the three times we went over it wasn't long before another vehicle came along to give us a hand. The Ruta 40 isn't a very busy road in those parts, probably saw no more than 10-20 other vehicles in 700KM's.
Speed was down to about 40KMH at the best most of the time. We had been parked up in Tres Lagos for three days waiting for the wind to die down .. it did .. but not for long, we got about 5KM's out of Tres Lagos before it blew up again!! I'm sure we must have experienced close to 100KMH winds that day, took us 9 hours to ride 90KM's to Lago Cardiel :funmeterno: :funmeteryes:

sparco 8 Jun 2012 09:48

aprilia caponord woudlnt changed it for anything

Supertramp 8 Jun 2012 20:10

Just bought XL 1000 varadero for tour in morocco if health issues allow :mchappy:

lynch180 24 Jun 2012 05:44

Way l r
 
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well,

Starting a semi, Trans Continental trip on her 2mro, may the force be with her............and I wont hit her too hard with the hammer when .....its notdoh

jkrijt 17 Jul 2012 07:38

I sold the GoldWing and bought a BMW R1100GS

estebangc 31 Jul 2012 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by duive01 (Post 375131)
Thanks Esteban, was the toilet sitting well for those 950 km's?
My journey is for the most part through Spain. Coming in Spain south of Biarritz and then I'm not sure if I should go down in a fairly straight line or take the west part through the Picos, a piece of Portugal and Sevilla. Going all the way down to Tarifa/Gibraltar and going up on the east side of Spain (Sierra Nevada, Barcelona). My real goal is Finestrat near Benidorm because that's where the ashes of my parents is buried.

Hi Duive01!

How is the trip going and how is the PCX 125 coping with the 7000kms? I hope that you're having a great trip in spite of the hot temperatures, and that it doesn't feel like toilet (as I said) plus sauna!

Way to go!:scooter::scooter::scooter:

Take care,

Esteban

anonymous1 12 Oct 2012 23:23

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10,000 K's since mid May, small tank, hard seat but what a sensational ride.

Fantastic Mrs Fox 9 Nov 2012 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 301765)
So... What's between your legs ?

One of these:

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...08677828_n.jpg

Chris Scott 10 Nov 2012 16:08

Quote:

Oh Christ !! Well it was only a bit of fun... If people chose to "tamper" the results with multiple fake votes, theres not much I can do about it !

It was just for a vague idea is all... Looks like the BMW marketting machine is indeed stronger than I thought !!
Nice idea TT and looks like you all discovered early on what’s baffled me this last hour – the poll adds up to <140% at the moment. Nearly 800 listed but <1100 actual votes when you add up column 3

Anyway... let me offer the travel bike stats from nearly 900 AMW Trip Reports going back 10 years or more, showing what’s ridden on mostly big trips in the AMZ. Some submit more than one journey on the same bike so as a poll of actual trips done on travel bikes, it's accurate enough.

......................AMW..............HUBB
BMW................25.7%.............33.1%
Honda..............23.3%.............18.0%
Yamaha............16.6%.............18.1%
Suzuki..............8.7%..............18.3%
Kawasaki..........8.6%..............11%
Other...............5%**..............5.5%
KTM.................4.7%..............6.5%
Enfield..............2.8%..............3.7%
Harley..............2.1%..............4.8%
Triumph............2.1%..............7.5%
Ducati/Cagiva*..1.2%..............6%
.......................100%..........<140%

Ch

* Ducati owned Cag when AMW TRs were started
** No more than 5 of: AJS 350, Bajaj, BSA, Buell, Chang Jiang, Chinese Thing, Gilera, Guzzi, Hyosung, Italjet, Jawa, Jialing, Minsk, MZ, Norton Commando, Pegaso, Peugeot 50, Unknown twin, Ural, Vespa, Vuka

guy971 13 Nov 2012 23:35

KTM 950sm for tarmac...BMW R100RS for long rides...KTM250excf for dirt.

Thinking about a RTW trip in a couple of years, maybe on an air-cooled 600 thumper or an R80...have a soft spot for the Beemer airheads.

dnicoletti 26 Dec 2012 14:51

Well,
as i am a very obtuse and narrow minded one, i do not understand, since long long time, why should i to ride a more lightweight and useful, as for off road purpose, plastic made bike.
So, i'm frankly a Talibiker, as i use a 10 y.o. H-D Dyna to ride the world.
Heavy weight, long wheelbase, poor brake system (i mean the original one),
poor handling and no off road skills. But that's the only transport mean i own, and that's enough, to me, to pursuit the happiness.

Lungastrada - Donato Nicoletti - Phototraveller


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