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stuxtttr 14 Feb 2008 20:24

We all have to die one day may as well be from something we love.
Dont KTM seats already have concrete in them ?

Ghost-Rider 20 Feb 2008 06:56

Motorcycle Cancer
 
Epidemiology will only initiate through rider concern not ridicule.

The goal is to encourage the industry to keep riders safer.

John Ferris 20 Feb 2008 14:44

What will your heated grips do to your hands, besides keep them warm.
Your heated vest, seat ?

TonyTea 17 Apr 2008 10:25

Well, I guess we have to wrap the rest of our bodies in tinfoil, as well as our heads!

I'd have given the article a bit more credibility if it wasn't written in RED CAPITALS!!! :)

Matt Cartney 17 Apr 2008 16:41

Yer, this looks like someone taking advantage of people's fear of contracting cancer to flog his snake oil.

Nevertheless, I intend to ride with my cobblers wrapped in tinfoil from now on...

Matt :)

Toyark 18 Apr 2008 20:08

and a wire
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Cartney (Post 185087)
Yer, this looks like someone taking advantage of people's fear of contracting cancer to flog his snake oil.

Nevertheless, I intend to ride with my cobblers wrapped in tinfoil from now on...

Matt :)


Yo Matt!!
Don't forget to have a dangling wire about 5.2" long attached to your foil so that you can receive Capital Radio!!!
& BTW Snake oil is available too:innocent:

Shheeesshh! if it's not a runaway-truck-with-no-brakes, or a bent copper or some misguided scorpion etc etc there will always be 'something' out there that will get you- just as it can whilst you're out shopping at your local tescos. It's not a question of 'IF' but more like 'WHEN'
So, IMVHO, get out there and ride your bike and enjoy it.:scooter:
Life's too short - and so am I

p.s kinda surprised no one mentioned the powerful explosions taking place but a few inches from 'precious' for hours on end.... :D

Sparky Stu 18 Apr 2008 20:24

EMF & Motorcycles , oh I'm buggered then, biker and an electrician!:angel:

Caminando 26 May 2008 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martynbiker (Post 167328)
take large doses of Vitamin B17 and you wont GET Cancer..... FACT!

Bollocks!..........................

dpdaniel 27 May 2008 03:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Warner (Post 167465)
1) Cancer speciallists know little to nothing about EMF.

2) EMF speciallists know little to nothing about cancer.

They are two very different fields. Look at smoking - the relationship to cancer was revealed by statics after decades.. yet people still smoke.

ELF (even static) magnetic shielding is done using lead .. thick lead as a faraday shield. A single sheet (like a motorcycle seat pan) is not going to do a lot of good. Speciallist metal product are avalible .. but very expensive ... I think the reduction in possible cancer development is not worth the costs ... nor do I think the relationship is proven. Similar to mobile phones.

Residing near (or even travelling near) large power lines would hve much higher fields than your motorcycle.

Ride your bike. Drink some beer, enjoy good food - be happy.

---- Matt - What is a 'harmfull dosage" of beer? ... Too many varioble to state acurately - body weight, present contents of stomach, past habits ... temperature .. contents of the beer... and at what point is the harm done?

Enjoyed your post, but felt I should defend the old radiation onclogists, some of whom are close friends...they know a heck of a lot this type of stuff, and especially in regard to the adverse effects. They have to pass exams equivalent to postgraduate levels in physics (as well as other topics) to earn their qualifications. Just thought I'd stick up for them.

On smoking, it has been proven to cause lung cancer but by far and away more damage is done long before then (and more of our tax dollars spent) with it's deterimental effects on exercise tolerance, blood vessels (esp. heart), ability to recover from surgery and other lung diseases (like emphysema), everything really. Also your kids are far more likely to get lung disease too even if they don't end up smoking themselves (which they are much more likely to do). And I think the unfortunate reason people still smoke despite the risks has more to do with the physical addiction.

And I also enjoyed your philosophy, sounds good!

As for our motorcycle cancer expert - these days medicine is built on evidence-based practice, so if he is right and can prove it using sientifically sound experiments (or more correctly using the scientific method, no-one else can disprove it) then time and hard work will prove him correct. Until then...I'm sticking with the above philosophy.

Cheers,
Damien

PS Great to see so many scientists on the HUBB! (I'm in anaesthesia)

Road Hog 27 May 2008 04:30

Cancer from EMF produced from a motorcycle electrical system is just bunk, but the guy will most likely get rich as there are a lot of fools in this world. If you need to worry about something how about the carcinogenic properties of the fuel fumes you breath every time you fill up which risk analysis indicates is killing people (not many just a few). Or think about the carcinogenic affect of alcohol in that last beer you had. One more before I finish my PJ sandwich and beer go fuel up the scoot, the most carcinogenic compound known to man is aflatoxin B1 and is at he maximum allowable level in every jar of peanut butter you buy.
We have too many real things to worry about to waste time on motorcycle emf, like where to ride next.:alien:

Arkayik 23 Jun 2008 19:21

I wonder, if the placebo effect and the precautionary principle could sway us to line our helmets with ELF-reducing materials. We are after all more exposed to all the electronic waves from cell phones to CB radios. Never mind that evil-generator, the Sun...

I suspect the author has read too many homeopathy pamphlets...

Wheelspin 23 Jun 2008 19:29

Too true... And to correct a point made above, I don't believe that patents have to work in order to be accepted - just that it is indeed a new idea. It should therefore be possible to patent a square wheel if you want to. Selling the product later will be your problem, not the patent office :)


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