What the matter with people?
 

I am I the only one who gets irate when people answer your ( oops I should say a post not my) post with drivel? Why do guys and gals feel the need to join in when they have nothing useful to say? It seems insane to me that they would bother. But it also means that I and others I guess, spend time checking out the new post only to find its rubbish.

It's just me is n't I'll get me coat.

Can't say it bothers me much as long as it isn't the "You've got money waiting in Nigeria" type of spam (unless of course you really have got money waiting in Nigeria). The mods are pretty good with that stuff as well as the occasional "you're a complete cnut" type of abuse post.

Mostly if someone's taken the time and effort to post something, even if it's off topic, I'm happy to read it. Better than (IMHO) than people posting nothing because any slight deviation from "just gimme the facts" will be met with derision or worse. Even irrelevant answers take time to tap out and someone's taken the time to to that even if it might seem to you (a generic term - not you specifically) a pointless waste of that time.

Now I'm trying to work out whether I should post this or just move on with my life and ignore it all. That's 10 mins I'll never get back again.:rofl:

Some people are 'chatty', some are not. You will find the same when travelling.
Accept the diversity. :rockon:

What's "drivel"? Who determines what's "useful"? Those who respond with what you may interpret as "drivel" or "useless" may have had the best of intentions. No one can truly know what the other person may find useful or not.

It's not like you're paying for a professional service where you're within your rights to expect a certain standard of "quality". These forums are for open discussions and there can potentially be as many different kinds of responses as there are participants. If we all worried about whether what we have to say is useful or drivel no one would post anything.

I try to cultivate a temperament of a world traveller. As such I try to foster within myself patience, understanding, flexibility and compassion. Becoming "irate" at not getting the answer I wanted from a post would run counter to that temperament.

Since you only joined a few months ago and only have 16 posts so far I decided to start reading your posts. I have to honestly say that all the responses would never make me "irate". On the other hand, your responses would make me not want to participate in the thread even if I had just done that Austrian route yesterday.

Leaping into an online community, starting two threads and then telling well meaning posters with links to your route that they shouldn't have responded is generally not conducive to civil discourse.

Have an awesome trip.

:flowers::yinyang::chinese::scooter:

more rubbish don't read.....
 

Why do they bother? I would guess, they too thought much the same as you did, when you posted this thread. You thought it was useful, but I for one can't say that every one who will read it will form the same opinion. Also not everyone may fully understand what it means, and may respond in a less than clear way, language differences perhaps? Some people may not be able to express their thoughts and response in a clear and precise manner, I'm not the most eloquent writer.

So captinktm in answer to your main question "What the matter with people?" Nothing mostly. :thumbup1: no need to get irate.

"Anybody can become angry, that is easy, but to be angry with the right person and to the right degree and at the right time and for the right purpose and in the right way - that is not within everybody's power and is not easy" - Aristotle

Ah the old you have only posted 16 post. You don't get it do you? Just because some one has post 20 000 posted on here does n't mean they know what they are talking about. If you don't agree then watch me clock up a thousand by simply posting "Dito" or something else equally as useless. This was the point of my post, if we all just posted information relevant to the original post then it would save us wading through the drivel. What's all this expect a certain quality? I just wanted an eye witness rather than a story teller. I also did n't realise there was a pecking order on here. But now I know.
Lastly the reason I have only 16 post (well done for counting) is because I had nothing useful to add, mainly because I am out there doing it rather than riding a key board.

There is a simple solution if you don't like how people respond on this forum, go elsewhere and hope you get a more helpful answers there.

Having just bought an Enfield and returned to related forums I can understand the frustration. You post pretty specific questions and get stuff back thats pretty useless. I asked about running a heated jacket on a 12V bike and got a lot of stuff about how in 1860's men were men, the winters were harder and the sheep were worried they'd end up sharing with stranded travellers. The old boys on the tinkering sites just don't know. (The answer is to fit a headlight switch BTW).

Look at it this way, every post brings the question back to the top of the pile where someone in the know may answer. What doesn't answer your question may give someone else an idea.

We should be grateful people make the effort.

Andy

What you might call drivel some people might call conversation, this isn't just a question and answer system - it's a place to share information, ideas and opinions.

Like in the real world you'll find people who stay rigidly in topic in conversation and you'll find people who veer wildly off topic. I generally appreciate both types, I certainly appreciate both types when I'm not paying for their time.

Link to this thread?

I found;
the jacket run flat out was about 60 watts
with the jacket one shirt layer away from me, and the rest of the insulation on top it needs about 20 watts to keep me warm in snow while riding.

There is a 36 watt headlight globe used in scooters that is almost the same size as a normal H4 55 watt globe .. substitute that globe and you have gained the required 20 watts to run the jacket.. some places expect you to run the headlight.

Sorry for the drivel that has nothing to do with 'what is wrong with people' :innocent: ... well not really.

Welcome to the internet.

Most of the time there's nothing wrong with people but sometimes it's also wise to have a look in the mirror. You never know how you come across. After all, people only see text, no emotions.

captinktm, why devalue others time/posts in such a way? Like backofbeyond wrote, every post takes time to write and in the Austrian road thread, klausmong1 was ready to ask his friends about the road.

As I said in the first sentence of this post, welcome to the internet. Majority of posts on the net would classify as "drivel", if using your terms, and a very small portion is made of facts. Yet the conversations aka drivel is what keeps forums alive. If people would only reply with facts, the forums would be ghost towns. Well, forums have been on a decline for over a decade now anyway.

What was it that Mollydog said again in the Tijuana border thread?

Something along the lines of ex-US defence force members being "damaged goods".

Methinks that comment can be applied to other countries than just the US. :(

Good man, you are of course absolutely correct. I am ex military, worse than that an ex Sergeant Major. I make no apologises for the way I am after all it has saved lives.

I can speak for others but for me its mostly that I'm about 10kgs overweight and i've got a little cyst on my left bollock. ;-)


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Wasn't on HUBB

Think i might find/start a Bullet UCE threat here though, there is a higher proportion of riders over fiddlers and stylists.

Totally agree with your numbers.

Andy

uhhhm, you only had 16 posts, therefore it was easy to read through them as opposed to someone who had hundreds. That's why I read them. Nothing to do with a pecking order. The number of posts one has or the length of time one has been here is of no importance to me. BTW, there's no need to count someone's posts, the number is clearly displayed in our profiles :cool4:

Over and out, becoming too busy getting ready to ride Indonesia next week.
:scooter::mchappy::Beach::palm::wheelchair::punk:

Couple of bits for OP's consideration:

First, on a forum like this one your post no longer belongs to you once it appears--it belongs to, and benefits, the whole community. What you find boring or useless, others may find interesting or useful. You may find this irritating, but that's the nature of it.

Second, appreciation for the intent of those responding will get you far--here and elsewhere in the world. Again, you may not like this approach (or care to participate), but you're paying the price in your own irritation and in pointless back-and-forth with other posters. Here, as in your other thread, you're lambasting people who are, at least initially, just trying to help out.

Last, if you find yourself attracting attacks from people you don't know, it's worth considering how you might be contributing to the dynamic. This doesn't mean you can't feel offended. It just means that in very practical terms there are ways of communicating which are well-received, and ways which resoundingly are not. These are determined not by your personal preferences, but rather by group norms. Here, for example, calling responses "drivel" may feel satisfying, but probably won't serve you well. Your response to Scrabblebiker above is an excellent case in point, should you choose to learn from it.

You've always got choices here--post or not post, conform to group norms or not, lurk or participate. Probably, if you find responses to your queries "drivel," you're out of step with community culture. It's up to you to decide whether that serves your purposes.

The above represents my personal opinions, as a member rather than moderator. As a moderator, I'll add that if you start berating other members by insult or threat--or if they start doing that to you-- moderators will step in with edits, deletions, infraction penalties and/or bans. That's another bit of established community culture.

Hope that's helpful. If not, you're entirely welcome to disregard.

Mark

hahaha i feel the same way too. i thought i was the only 1,

I have found this to be common in many forums, especially looking for similiar info n only find rabbit trails.

Guess it depends on what you mean by 'drivel' - I'd have to see the posts you're talking about.


Certainly I'm guilty of making posts that are off-topic and just making jokes or conversation, but other times I do manage to post something helpful.


Sometimes people are chatty and want to butt in with remarks that are off-topic. About all you can do is make a follow-up post that gets things back onto the track.

It always surprises me how some people just demand things in life, even on forums...

Basic muffin recipe.

Ingredients:

2 medium eggs
125ml vegetable oil
250ml semi-skimmed milk
200g golden caster sugar
400g self-raising flour (or same
quantity plain flour and 3 tsp
baking powder)
1 tsp salt
100g chocolate chips (see tip) or
dried fruit such as sultanas or
dried cherries (optional)

Method:

Heat oven to 200C/180C fan/gas 6. Line 2 muffin trays with
paper muffin cases. In a large bowl beat the eggs lightly with a
handheld electric mixer for 1 min. Add the oil and milk and beat
until just combined then add the sugar and whisk until you have a
smooth batter. Sift in the flour and salt (and baking powder if using)
then mix until just smooth. Be careful not to over-mix the batter as
this will make the muffins tough. Stir in the chocolate chips or dried
fruit if using.

Fill muffin cases two-thirds full and bake for 20-25 mins, until
risen, firm to the touch and a skewer inserted in the middle comes
out clean. If the trays will not fit on 1 shelf, swap the shelves around
after 15 mins of cooking. Leave the muffins in the tin to cool for a
few mins and transfer to a wire rack to cool completely.

Enjoy. :thumbup1:

Mezo.

kids exam questions
 

drivel drivel drilel... :innocent:

The following questions were set in last year's GCSE examinations

Q. Name the four seasons
A. Salt, pepper, mustard and vinegar

Q. Explain one of the processes by which water can be made safe to drink A. Flirtation makes water safe to drink because it removes large pollutants like grit, sand, dead sheep and canoeists

Q. How is dew formed
A. The sun shines down on the leaves and makes them perspire

Q. What causes the tides in the oceans
A. The tides are a fight between the earth and the moon. All water tends to flow towards the moon, because there is no water on the moon, and nature abhors a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins the fight

Q. What guarantees may a mortgage company insist on A. If you are buying a house they will insist that you are well endowed

Q. In a democratic society, how important are elections A. Very important. Sex can only happen when a male gets an election

Q. What are steroids
A. Things for keeping carpets still on the stairs (Shoot yourself now , there is little hope)

Q. What happens to your body as you age
A. When you get old, so do your bowels and you get intercontinental

Q. What happens to a boy when he reaches puberty A. He says goodbye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery
(So true)

Q Name a major disease associated with cigarettes A. Premature death

Q. What is artificial insemination
A. When the farmer does it to the bull instead of the cow

Q. How can you delay milk turning sour
A. Keep it in the cow (Simple, but brilliant)

Q. How are the main 20 parts of the body categorised (e.g. The abdomen) A. The body is consisted into 3 parts - the brainium, the borax and the abdominal cavity. The brainium contains the brain, the borax contains the heart and lungs and the abdominal cavity contains the five bowels: A, E, I, O and U (What the
*!!*???)

Q. What is the fibula?
A. A small lie

Q. What does 'varicose' mean?
A. Nearby

Q. What is the most common form of birth control A. Most people prevent contraception by wearing a condominium (That would work)

Q. Give the meaning of the term 'Caesarean section'
A. The caesarean section is a district in Rome

Q. What is a seizure?
A. A Roman Emperor. (Julius Seizure, I came, I saw, I had a fit)

Q. What is a terminal illness
A. When you are sick at the airport. (Irrefutable)

Q. Give an example of a fungus. What is a characteristic feature?
A. Mushrooms. They always grow in damp places and they look like umbrellas

Q. Use the word 'judicious' in a sentence to show you understand its meaning A. Hands that judicious can be soft as your face.
(OMG)

Q. What does the word 'benign' mean?
A. Benign is what you will be after you be eight

Q. What is a turbine?
A. Something an Arab or Shreik wears on his head

LOL.... mmm, muffins....


I've been on HUBB for almost -gasp- 18 years, and I don't recall it ever being much different. Heck, if anything there's more useful info here now than in past years simply due to the increase in the sheer number of posting - you just have to learn to use the search tool to shift through the chaff.

Mere drivel leaves me somewhat perplexed .
But , and I say this in all sincerity , complete twaddle is infuriating .

To further putting salt in the wounds of the original OP.....

BONES your post has cracked me up, a grown man crying, laughing and choking out loud "IN PUBLIC" has done me a world of good and may have put a chuckle on the faces of people walking by.

So thanks from me and the passing crowd

PS. i'm partial to a good muffin too.

--'------ I believe that Muffin the Mule is no longer an indictable offence .