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Wash DC denies permit for 9/11 bikers
It appears as if 2 million bikers are going to ride through Washington DC
anyway. Not the DAKAR this is a WHACKAR!!! These guys just might really walk the talk... Any thoughts/ideas regarding a solidarity ride, with permits of course. Report: DC denies permit for 9/11 bikers; Planners move ahead anyway | Twitchy "Washington DC has DENIED our permit for a no-stop ride through Washington DC. We find this regretful for the residents and businesses of that great city, and humbly offer our apologies. What could have been a one or two hour ride through will now likely be an all day event. We will be obeying all laws. We will be stopping at all stoplights, stop signs, and yielding to all pedestrians. RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OF WASHINGTON DC: On behalf of the National “2 Million Bikers to DC” Team, please accept our sincere apologies. We did the right thing and went through the proper channels to secure a no-stop permit to ride through your great city. We wanted to ride an established route, which would have taken us past the Viet Nam Memorial to the Lincoln Memorial, across the bridge into Virginia, and that’s it! We would have been completely out of Washington DC, and your city would have been back to normal. The National Team fully expected our permit to be rejected, and have already drafted a Plan-B. Participants are moving forward." xfiltrate eat, drink and keep a copy of the Bill of Rights handy |
sorry, and so? Do you know how many demonstrations, meetings, etc there are in DC.?
Several thousand, much less two million, bikers riding through DC on a no-stop ride would take several hours anyway, not the quoted two hours. They already said that they expected their plan to be rejected. They'll do the ride, it will just take longer, but so what, what's the rush? |
I'm experiencing some difficulty getting riled up about this. A bunch of folks on Harleys who applied for immunity to traffic laws? Let them stop at traffic lights, like I do. Judging by the quantity and quality of their publicity--which consists largely of disjointed, all-caps pronouncements on Facebook and a lot of pointless talk about "TAKING OUR COUNTRY BACK"--they're not really deserving of much attention. IMHO, of course.
Mark |
Clarifying the issues
Thanks for your responses.
If we puncture ground swells of discontent with inane rhetoric - "immunity to traffic laws" without recognizing the fact that: by every viable poll the citizens of the United States of America have less than 10% approval rating of the U S Congress "Just seven percent (7%) of Likely U.S. Voters think Congress is doing a good or excellent job. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 62% rate the legislators’ performance as poor. " [url=http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performance]Congressional Performance - Rasmussen Reports The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday( Sept 9 , 2013 shows that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove . http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll Look, if we do not support the peaceful expression of discontent with these polls, commonly called"taking our country back" then what options do those who are not dumbed down enough to accept the tyranny that is befalling us? These bikers may not understand that the U S is not a pure democracy as created upon the pirate ships plundering the caribbean in the 17th and 18th century, but they do know that the Congress and the President should be governed by the will of the people. Even as a Republic that we are, these approval ratings suck, and I am all for peaceful demonstrations to illustrate this fact. xfiltrate |
You don't like my use of the phrase "immunity to traffic laws?" Why not? That's what they were requesting: being allowed to ignore red lights, stop signs, yield signs, pedestrian crossings, etc. They were denied their request. I'm not upset. They now state that they'll go ahead with their protest, but will stop for stop signs and traffic lights, yield to pedestrians, and in other respects behave themselves. Sounds good to me.
I'm all in favor of "peaceful expression of discontent." I do it all the time. best, Mark |
Ignoring the obvious
Don't you see - the only way a protest "parade" or ride through DC could occur without totally disrupting traffic for most of the day, is for the million bikers to have an escort that bypasses stop lights etc. Otherwise, the protest will destroy transportation throughout the DC route for totality of the day.
Seeing the obvious is sometimes helpful, especially when it represents common sense. xfiltrate |
Could two million riders "parade" through downtown DC without "totally disrupting traffic for most of the day" if they were allowed to disregard traffic rules? How long does it take two million bikers to pass a given point? How long a line is formed by two million bikers?
OK: how about one million? Why do you suppose the organizers were so certain from the start they'd be denied a permit? Just curious. Mark |
Good question!
Riding a couple, 2 or 3 bikes abreast - and basing this estimate on about 50,000 bikes which is probably pushing it, - average length of bike and space between rows of bikes staggered @ 10 feet,
I doubt more than 50,000 bikes would show up. We would have a line approx 100 miles long traveling at average 30mph with escort, we need to know suggested route and exit dispersal routes. etc, But, I would say 100 miles of bikes would pass through Washington DC a lot faster with an escort and not stopping at traffic lights as opposed to conforming to traffic laws. Stop and go would be totally impossible within 24 hours. Did you discover planned route? Hey anyone who did maths please help. xfiltrate |
9/11 Forget Dakar this is WACKAR in DC update
I better upgrade my estimate of 50,000 bikes to about 100,000 bikes... UPDATE: ON NUMBER OF BIKES THAT WILL ARRIVE DC 9/11 ALL BETS ARE OFF!
A quarter million motorcycles roar into Washington in Rolling Thunder tribute to veterans and missing in action soldiers | Mail Online xfiltrate Another update here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bl.../posts?page=31 |
Three abreast? 30 mph? Sounds optimistic, particularly since even two abreast is illegal in DC, and the speed limit is lower than 30mph. But even allowing those assumptions:
Double the number of bikes and you've got a steady stream about 7 hours long. No pedestrians crossing during that time. No cross traffic. No allowing for breakdowns, accidents, parking, eating, peeing.....much less for ticketing all the illegal straight pipes. Hell, there's not even an allowance for former governors of second-tier states to pretend to ride for a couple of hundred yards in view of the cameras. It's a joke. No one expected, and no one expects, to be permitted to do such a thing. The whole thing's a ploy, and we each get to choose whether we're going to fall for it. Make your choice wisely. Mark |
Good we have alternative media
For the moment....I am at a loss to predict the outcome of this. I will do a remote viewing session in the morning and then report.
One thing sure, if it looks even a little out of control, the main stream will not be covering it at all. The very last thing the President needs right now is grid lock on the streets of DC just when he is dealing with grid lock in the House, the Senate and Syria... I have labeled the event the "WACKAR" and only time will give definition to this new word. What comes to mind is the rebellion of the veterans called the "Bonus Army" One of my personal heros : "Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, one of the most popular military figures of the time, visited their camp to back the effort and encourage them.[1] " supported the veterans march on the Capitol. I wonder if any living generals will lend their support to the bikers???? Major General Smedley Butler also wrote the book entitled "War is a Racket" as in Racketeering...... —— (1935; reprint, 2003). War Is a Racket. Los Angeles: Feral House. ISBN 0-922915-86-5. check wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler xfiltrate |
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I lived in the center of Washington for several years, and there is gridlock on the streets of DC almost every day for some parade or protest or another, so I'd be surprised if the mainstream expressed much interest in this particular one. Is the "rebellious" nature of the act supposed to interest them? I'm not sure how you see any similarities between this non-event and the "Bonus Army"... And I'd be very surprised if the size of this one comes even close to Rolling Thunder, which has been going on for many years and which takes place on a holiday weekend, which allows people to come from far and wide. |
A rose by any other name is still a rose
The "Bonus Army" was tens of thousands of veterans who congregated in Washington DC. This event is now or will be tens of thousands of veterans congregating in Washington DC for starters.
Check the updates I have already posted. xfiltrate |
A man after my own heart!
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Nowadays hardly any US 4 star can complete a full career without some jobs-worthy getting in the way and making an accusation of some type or other that becomes a reason for resignation. So, Wash DC is going to be full on that anniversary day with 2 million riders and 1 million muslims (according to the link in one of those earlier posts) - maybe some of them are one and the same?? Xfiltrate, it's a delight to read your posts and be educated by your insights. |
Help Kickstart WW III
It is my opinion that this topic of thousands of bikers and thousands of muslims paying respects for to the victims of the 9/11 tragedy or with other agendas....is actually a page out of the playbook best represented by a YouTube Video entitled "Help Kickstart WWIII"
Help Kickstart WWIII - this short video is very disrespectful to our President so I will not post a link and leave it up to those who read here to find it on You Tube or not. It is a sad attempt to promote world peace by some well meaning people. We have many bikers, who want to support the 9/11 fallen and veterans We have a few bikers who believe all muslims are terrorists We have veterans, some of who will experience painful flashbacks. We have veterans, some of who will be heavily medicated. I will leave it there. We have U S friend and foe psychological operations programing We have many muslims, who want to pray to their God for peace We have a few muslims, who believe the U S intervention in their countries is terrorism We have a few muslims who are terrorists We have muslim friend and foe psychological operations programing We have politicians who never "waste a good crisis" What will happen: 1. There will be several isolated incidents - mostly clashes among the bikers that will be blamed on both veterans and muslims alike, and will quickly be controlled. One incident will be a direct confrontation between the bikers and the muslims, some injuries. 2. Looks like the politicians will ride this event for all it is worth to help forward gun control and police empowerment agendas and use it for funding purposes and perhaps - see the You Tube video described above. I want no part of this. The fact that this - on some level appears to be a tit for tat anti muslim - or is being portrayed to be anti muslim,.... troubles me deeply. Let us all pray for peace to our own God or Gods. Sorry, to say more would be beyond what I know for sure. And, "Sleep tight tonight, your Air Force is awake." xfiltrate |
Update found on http://drudgereport.com/
Steer clear of Washington, D.C., today as '2 million' motor bikers converge on nation’s capital for 9/11 | PennLive.com
The fact that Drudgereport.com is covering "2 million bikers " makes it real to tens of millions of readers worldwide. http://drudgereport.com |
Breitbart covers 2 million bikers 9/11
Bikers Descend on DC, as Muslim Group Tries to Hide Dubious Connections
Andrew Breitbart (February 1, 1969 – March 1, 2012), a world class reporter, like Rolling Stones reporter Michael Hastings (January 28, 1980 – June 18, 2013), who was the author of the Rolling Stones magazine article "the Runaway General" that took down General Stanley McChrystal U S Army NATO Commander Afghanistan is a reporter who also recently died under questionable circumstances. Since Breitbart's death, I have found Breitbart , - his web site to be a reliable and unabashed source for national and international news and commentary. "The Good Die Young?" xfiltrate |
Easy Rider?
Easy Rider is a 1969 adventure road movie staring, produced and directed by Peter Fonda, Dennis Hopper and Terry Southern - Jack Nicholson and Karen Black also contributed greatly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easy_Rider
Why do I bring this up? Sometime in the 1990s, by great fortune, a substantial investment, and because I was one of the organizers of Flagstaff's annual film festival I was seated next to Milos Forman - Czech-American director, screenwriter of many films... for the screening of the 1969 film Easy Rider... Milos leaned over to me, and just as a couple of redneck southerners, in a pick up truck, with a shotgun, were about to blow Fonda and Hopper off their Harleys, Milos whispered "imagine what a threat a thousand easy riders would be." "No, really, could you just imagine what President Nixon would have done if a thousand easy riders showed up in Washington DC to protest that god awful war?" *Viet Nam Milos Forman directed : One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Amedeus, Goya's Ghost to name a few. xfiltrate |
Update - VIDEOS 2 million bikers 9/11 DC
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Easy Rider soundtrack
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Video: Virginia Police stop traffic for 500 bikers
I timed the 500 bikers passing through an intersection at almost 4 minutes.
Perhaps you with Maths backgrounds can extrapolate how long it will take 50,000 bikers to pass through an intersection, with police stopping normal traffic? And then, how long it will take 50,000 bikers to pass through the same intersection obeying stop and go light? See the video found here: [url=http://www.infowars.com/live-updates-d-c-bikers-stand-up-for-free-speech-and-defy-federal-tyranny/] |
bikers outnumber muslims
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Brietbart reporter rides
This is a good summary of the event, I think. Comments welcome.
9/11 Bikers Ride Into D.C. xfiltrate |
Comments welcome?
Well, for starters you seem to be the only person interested in this complete non-event. Second, I find the fact that this whole thing was initiated as an anti-Muslim protest to be rather distasteful. Third, any suggestion that there was any political motivation behind denying these clowns a permit is, well, idiotic. You can post whatever response you want, I won't read it, I'm afraid that I'm finished with this thread. |
Fox News interviews organizer of DC biker rally
Here is the point of view of Belinda Bee - 2 million biker rally organizer as exlained to Fox News.....
9 11 Bikers Denied Permit for D C Ride Belinda Bee Fox and Friends 9 11 13 - YouTube motoreiter, I see your having another great day - xfiltrate |
Comments welcome... :innocent: |
Prestonnews forever YouTube or not
Chris, that was the most Cervantean, Don Quiotean, Shakespearean
soliloquy ever performed in the New World. Brilliant. check this out: "Media Kills 9/11 Truth Rally by Lying About It..." [url=http://www.infowars.com/media-kills-911-truth-rally-by-lying-about-it/] |
Oh yeah, just another PsyOp
Motorcyclists were blissfully unaware of the masterfully executed divide and conquer tactic.
[url=http://www.infowars.com/media-kills-911-truth-rally-by-lying-about-it/] I talked to a couple guys who really know what is going on and confirmed this article is very accurate... xfiltrate |
Help Kickstart WWIII
I will post this now, now that I know that my original analysis was spot on.
Here the page out of the playbook... Enjoy: Help Kickstart World War III! - YouTube xfiltrate |
Oh yeah
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Classic quote: “You picked the wrong day."
A couple dozen Muslims protesting something or other and a whole slew of motorbike enthusiasts. The USA is big enough and tolerant enough for both groups. |
Something I missed
By way of identification, I am an old(67) white Souther male. Mention was made about "taking our country back" by creating a day long traffic jam in DC. What would be taken back? Who took it-full names please? Aside from creating bad pr for all bikers, what else would be achieved? Just curious.
Eric |
9/11 2013 aftermath
I could be wrong, but here is my take on "taking our country back" - as previously posted on this thread, ---- the approval rating for the U S Congress is about 10% and the approval rating for our President is less than about 47% I would guess the comment about "taking our country back" - was made in this context, and I agree it is absurd, but it could be loosely interpreted as doing something to demonstrate that the people are not happy with the performance of Congress and the President.
Perhaps those representing the low approval rating described above and as originally posted earlier on this same thread, believe our politicians have been influenced/bought by lobbyist representing multinational corporations, banks, big pharma, Monsanto style monopolists the manufacturers of armaments and the providers of logistical services that support war and war's aftermath, and Wall Street,.... to the demise of the majority of Americans. First and last names might be found by naming our politicians elected to national office, the CEOs of the Fortune 500 companies, and perhaps more than a few of the 2000 or so billionaires currently inhabiting the planet. And, perhaps those same influences have managed to influence our mainstream media - as posted here...... "Media Kills 9/11 Truth Rally by Lying About It Alex Jones' Infowars ..." [url=http://www.infowars.com/media-kills-911-truth-rally-by-lying-about-it/] |
Smedley Butler, Eisenhower & Kennedy
Here they are..... describing in detail - the who, of who has taken over the USA .....
Major General Smedley Butler - The Military Industrial Complex's Original Whistleblower - Waking Times thanks for your interest in history and freedom..... xfiltrate |
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