PETROL - UK - No go area
 

The press today warn of unleaded petrol at £2 per litre in the UK,Thats getting closer to $10 a gallon, Diesel around $11 a gallon, which will make the UK a no-go country once again.
As the goverments budget will once again add MORE TAX, and oil prices increase because ONE country stops exporting.
The world has gone mad. Soon be cheaper to fill my bike with whiskey or perfume. :scooter:jeiger MAD A HELL AS WISH I WAS ELSEWHERE.

This is the same press that refer to three snowflakes as the "Blizzard of the Century", tell people that all day drinking is going to lead to the end of civilisation as we know it and continually over sensationalise every mundane event to fill the pages of their out of date chip wrappers?

News is things that have actually happened. This is something UK journalists seem to have failed to understand.

So, I wonder what happened to that Bus on the moon and Freddie Stars hamster?

Andy

The UK is hell bent on raping us on taxes, perhaps one day we will take to the streets like we are seeing other countries do, the only time we stand up and do anything is if there is a war or football match, then we are 'up the front' giving it dixie other than that we roll over and take it 'up the 'arris'!

One of the reasons I left the UK :helpsmilie:was that I was sick of being shafted by the government .:thumbdown:
Now I live in Canada :freezing:where the politicians are even bigger crooks and taxes are higher .doh
But the nice lady at the liquor store:thumbup1: does get British beer in for us ,so life is tolerable .bier
C'est la vie !:mchappy:

PS My mum says groceries are cheaper at Morrison's than in Canada .

It's one of those things unfortunately that we have an ever decreasing amount of, and an ever increasing number of people wanting to use what's left.

Plus of course what there is, tends to be located in somewhat 'sensitive' places, so the price is always going to be volatile. Just like the countries :)

Tax is a real kicker on top of that of course, but demand for fuel will always dictate its cost, just like everything else. The more we want it, the more we can get shafted for it :)

Me? I'm working on my rubber band / hamster powered revolutio-cycle. It'll sort us out in no time, and only runs on kibble.

oh dear.... The Daily "Hate" Mail is at it again !! God i've missed the UK hahah

Well, i've just got back to see that I cant afford to run the van I wanted to buy due to fuel, insurance, tax etc...

I'm turning to pedal power..... !!

The term "Daylight Robbery" has its origins in the time when the British Government taxed windows in peoples houses. The simple fact is that oil/petrol is cheap and plentiful - it is GOVERNMENT that is expensive (and plentiful) and therefore most of the £1.30 per litre is TAX :nono: The time when people regard petrol price in the same way they viewed the window tax WILL come - and soon!

This morning I filled the van up and it cost me £104 - I am down £104, nearly all in taxes BEFORE I have even done a days work. It seems to me I'm just working to expand the government and lucky if there's anything left over for me at the end of it all and even then that gets taxed heavily too :(

Don't kid yourself, if we fuelled our bikes on sea water the government would apply the same taxes to it. GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM!

Life costs the same in Canada but proportions spent on things differ, I find; e.g. fuel is cheaper but food and beer is more expensive, housing the same or more, clothes more etc etc.... overall, I have the same standard of living as the UK, but more space.....

Yes, but not the elected part....

The Senior Civil Servants stay the same, still making the same retarded decisions, and living in thier same rose coloured world, with thier golden handshakes and final salay pensions.

The elected Politicians don't have any real power in the corridors of Westminister, they just bridge the gap between the elctorate and Senior Civil Servants.

If all the money wasted in the various Governement Agencies (from the Prime ministers office right down to the Local Councilors allowences) was put to good use the UK would be in the black again.....

It is cheap but it certainly isn't as plentiful as it once was, and it's only going to get harder to come by as time rolls on. The fact that we've all got used to it being readily available means it's going to be harder to adjust to the fact that there is less of it about.

Tax is undoubtedly the major player in the makeup of the cost of fuel, but if you think that'll change if them at 'the top' change you're kidding yerself!

If only the solution were as simple as bricking up the windows and painting them on instead! :)

The "Peak Oil" old chestnut has long been a discredited phenomena and was first disproved when it was first raised - in the 1920's! The argument arises throughout the industrial age according to prevailing geo-political and geo-economic conditions. Currently, a narrow comunity of interests have coincided accounting for this current price in crude oil but be assured, oil supply by far exceeds demand, new fields are being discovered all the time and the largest existing fields have hardly been exploited. The only reason there are not new giant oil fields brought online is because there simply not the demand for the oil to justify it.


As to your point about change at the top - well I assume those at the top in Arabian countries thought the same...

The age of Big Government is over; it's an obsolete construct and we can do away with 95% of it (especially the hated EU), avoid anarchy and society can prosper like never before. And we'll all be riding KTM's when I rule the world.

I shouldn't worry about it. I remember great disbelief when in the 1970 oil crisis it went from 50p to 80p a gallon.. As my dad said then, it is not that things are getting dearer, it is money getting cheaper. so what do you expect after Gordon Brown printed trillions of fake currency? Everything will get 50% dearer to match the UK lira which will soon be on a par with the Turkish Lira.

Here we go again. Can I make 2 suggestions? If you don't like it here, then

1) do something about it, or
2) **** off somewhere else.

I'm here to read about adventure travel, if I wanted to drown in excrement while slitting my wrists I'd buy the Daily Mail.

No offence though. :D

[quote=muppix;327280]Here we go again.

I'm here to read about adventure travel,



Wot yoo doin' in the bar then ?
On yer bike !


[ no offence intended ]:innocent:

ha ha - isn't that the point of this site? I deffo am off somewhere else! lol

I'll not try and counter your opinion on the whole 'peak-oil' issue, as your comment about there not being the demand for oil to justify bringing new fields online about had my jaw hitting the table.

My particular comment about 'change at the top' wasn't referring to those at the top being secure regardless. The current situation in the various N. African countries merely serves to underline my point. The people at the top might have changed, but if you think that's going to affect the price you pay for fuel, then you've got a surprise coming.

At the end of the day, we want it, the OPEC nations have it, we'll pay whatever they ask to get it and whoever is in charge will take a huge whack out of our pockets at the same time.

It'd be nice if someone got into power and cut fuel duty in half, but with the amount of money it hauls in it'd be political suicide. So it's not likely :)

Either way, when you rule the world, can I have a Yamaha instead of a KTM? :scooter:

No - non KTM riders will be put up against the wall and shot. Harsh but fair :rofl:

I have worked in one way or another with the oil business for twenty years man & boy and read more papers and books than I care to remember so trust me - supply exceeds demand and in 100 years time this conversation will be repeated by someone, somewhere. Don't be fooled by the propaganda you are being spoon fed :D

I certainly hope not, otherwise we really won't have progressed at all.

Also, as a way of discrediting your own views on propaganda is an excellent method :)

I work in the outdoor equipment business and wholeheartedly recommend that we all start walking more as a counter to rising fuel costs. I'll supply the boots! :D

Right, best go sort some KTM stickers to slap on the Yamaha, just in case you do end up ruling the world!bier

fuel costs pence, tax is the killer find me an alternative and I'll use it, but the government has no incentive to invest in the alternatives becaue of the massive revenue fuel duty brings in. You won't solve the food crisis by telling people to eat less, you need to find better ways of producing and distributing it and ways of wasting less of it. Equally you won't reduce the use of fossil fuels by telling people to drive less. If you want to walk crack on, I'll take the car!

Anyway, the Government has no authority, we are ruled by unelected fatcats paid for by that fuel duty and the other appalling taxes we pay.

'Britain is the mother of democracy'
democracy is dead
therfore what has happened to Britain?
I need a drink!!!jeiger

get a bicycle.

the tax doesn't bring in a useful revenue really, because it's just absorbed into the massive cost of running UK PLC. that's why they can't drop it, it's already spent on other things. the oil companies pay bugger all tax as well, a bit like the banks; but we're supposed to feel thankful for their presence.

do you really have a '68 Minor ? I have a '72 MG B, and the cost of a tank of fuel is getting silly...

well spotted! used to have a traveller but it had to go sadly, would love to have another.
you wanna try filling a Landcruiser!

Filled my Daf 95 xf superspace cab today and nearly sh@ my pants. £360 but on friday it cost £328.

Anybody want to buy my timber truck and trailer?

So will now have fuel bill of £2k + this week.:eek3::helpsmilie:

Thank god going RTW next month.

Oneworld Biker
RTW on a goldwing and a prayer. 2011

ouch!!!!
people go round the world on that budget!!

It's easy to look a the price at the pumps and sigh at another penny or two. But to be honest when you are sticking £20, £30 or even £50 in the tank it doesn't make that much difference.

Then you get someone who fills up every day and it looks worse. Taxi drivers, delvery vans etc

Then you see the difference a few pence makes to a truck driver and it kinda put it into perspective a little more - £32 difference over a weekend! I've gotten utterlt p!$$ed with less than that!

What amazes me is the fuel protests a few years ago were because of prices nearly half of what it is today.... and today we are just accepting it.

that cos in the UK we dont stick together unlike france who would go on strike and every body would be out and the ports blockaded.... Vive La France.

Except the fuel in France isn't that much cheaper than the UK. Certainly wasn't in August anyway...

A friend went to France last summer and said petrol on the autoroute was actually more expensive that UK motorways, the grass isn't always greener.

Petrol is about the same price in France as the UK. I was there last weekend. Motorway prices are over 1.50 eur, supermarkets approaching 1.40.
Diesel is still about 15 to 20c cheaper than petrol.