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Rognv 5 May 2023 06:42

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Originally Posted by backofbeyond (Post 635916)
All of this seems to be based on slim chances vs slim chances; the slim chance that you’ll have some kind of issue that only four tablets of eg codeine will help vs the slim chance that border officials will go through your first aid kit tablet by tablet.


I think it´s not worth to take any riscs at problems at borders because of carying something when the chances you will ever need that item are so slim.
You can´t prepare for every situation you might encounter.
I don´t know much about medicines but aren´t they expiring at some point? If it is so difficult to get a prescription then you would have the same difficulty again and again when you need to buy new onces, and discard the old ones you (hopefully) never used. I have a first aid kit and a fire extinguisher and they are both expired.

krtw 5 May 2023 12:02

Thanks for all the replies. Things I've learned reading these - some people don't read the actual post. Its a good idea if replying.

On topic. You can't be prepared for everything, I agree. But being prepared also means thinking deeply about the worst case. And preparing, at least mentally for that.

I'm NOT taking the meds with me. In countries where they are easily purchased, I'll get some. A few, for that emergency situation - and toss them before crossing a border.

I do have antibiotics and am keeping them. I do have 400mg liquid caps Ibuprofin and am keeping them.

Its not worth it. That SLIM change you get searched carefully.

I was surprised by the comments on drones and the border. I have a drone. How much of a problem might this be, and is there a way to mitigate it? I know some countries they are not allowed, like Iran - but more than that?

chris 5 May 2023 12:14

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Originally Posted by krtw (Post 635941)

I was surprised by the comments on drones and the border. I have a drone. How much of a problem might this be, and is there a way to mitigate it? I know some countries they are not allowed, like Iran - but more than that?

https://www.google.com/search?q=coun..._attribution=1

Surfy 5 May 2023 12:25

I do carrying a first aid bag on travels by 4x4 for trips abroad like on a transafrica or a remote south america trip.

I usually get / order them new before the big trip from my doctor. They usually are helpful, if you tell them about your upcoming adventure! I ask too for an english written prescriptions signed & stamped by the doctor.

Each medicine is labled with my name and how I had to use them.

- Painkillers, antibiotics, anti hystamins etc etc.

No real hard stuff like oxi`s, there are other hard paincillers available.

It never got checked once. But if - it probably could help.

I did not do that effort for my 2 month europe trip, because it is not that remote - and because local pharmacys would have everything on stock.

As a biker you usually dont will have the required space, to carry so much stuff... Single tablets in your luckage, could lead to problems. Also if they are free to buy in a pharmacy at home.

But yes, any "car search" at borders they was looking for forbidden meat / fruits and never for drugs or similar.

I did blog about that topic in german language, if someone like to see the full first aid packing list and all kind of included medicine . I too add a link to an article, who do reports about jailed travellers.

Surfy

krtw 5 May 2023 12:58

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Originally Posted by chris (Post 635942)

Thank you. Not too many and not for a while. I will ship the drone to the next legal destination before entering any of these countries. And this may be a moving target, so keep up and informed.

Tim Cullis 5 May 2023 20:07

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Originally Posted by krtw (Post 635941)
I do have antibiotics and am keeping them.

Misuse of antibiotics is a real problem in the medical world. Even if you have something like a lower respiratory tract infection (aka pneumonia or bronchitis), you don't know whether it was caused by a virus—in which case antibiotics are a waste of time—or a bacterial infection.

I have the same avoidance of imodium and similar drugs. You stomach has detected something poisonous and wants to get rid of it, why on earth would you choose to bottle it up inside you?

markharf 5 May 2023 21:42

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Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 635957)
Misuse of antibiotics is a real problem in the medical world. Even if you have something like a lower respiratory tract infection (aka pneumonia or bronchitis), you don't know whether it was caused by a virus—in which case antibiotics are a waste of time—or a bacterial infection.

This is certainly true...although sometimes you get strep throat, a topical or systemic bacterial infection, or even a potentially-lyme-inducing tick bite, and you really, really want antibiotics. I carry antibiotics and anti-parasitics, try not to use them inappropriately, and am sometimes thankful to have them close at hand.

Under-use of antibiotics is part of the problem, too: stopping partway through a course of antibiotics can serve to select for the resistant bugs, allowing them to thrive while killing off their less-resistant competitors.

Mark

krtw 5 May 2023 21:43

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Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 635957)
Misuse of antibiotics is a real problem in the medical world. Even if you have something like a lower respiratory tract infection (aka pneumonia or bronchitis), you don't know whether it was caused by a virus—in which case antibiotics are a waste of time—or a bacterial infection.

I have the same avoidance of imodium and similar drugs. You stomach has detected something poisonous and wants to get rid of it, why on earth would you choose to bottle it up inside you?

Carrying antibiotics just makes sense. Its not like they'll be eaten like candy or used for a tummy ache.. But I know I have a recurring infection in my mouth where I either get surgery that I have to pay for, or take a few pills a day for 4 days and I'm good for a few more years.

There's just times when medicine makes sense. Even imodium.

Tomkat 6 May 2023 11:18

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Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 635957)
You stomach has detected something poisonous and wants to get rid of it, why on earth would you choose to bottle it up inside you?

On the road I can think of one very good reason.

shu... 6 May 2023 21:18

Yes, it's good to avoid incidents where you end up having to wash out everything including your boots! :nono:

..............shu

Homers GSA 8 May 2023 00:03

As others have said, label and carry a copy of the prescription for medication.

Declare at point of entry.

I travel with a heavy drug and had to dispose of only once.

Have fun.


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krtw 8 May 2023 01:23

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Originally Posted by Homers GSA (Post 635981)
As others have said, label and carry a copy of the prescription for medication.

Declare at point of entry.

I travel with a heavy drug and had to dispose of only once.

Have fun.


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Did you read my post? I don't believe its confusing. I don't have a prescription and can't get one. But thanks for posting.

Homers GSA 8 May 2023 05:02

Pain Meds for travel accident
 
No I didn’t read it. I just randomly post hoping to guess the subject. ;)
The conversation has moved on from your initial post, to medicine and travel in general.

And if you want harder pain medication ‘just in case’ a doctor will prescribe it for you. Just find a Dr on your travels.

One legal option is to use ibuprofen and paracetamol together. I have nerve damage and that combo works on mild days.

Here’s a link;

https://www.nps.org.au/news/paraceta...for-acute-pain


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Revalberg 22 Jun 2023 09:48

Hi.

I use on trips :

Burana 400 - a good pain reliver
Activated charcoal - stomach problems

Both are available without a prescription.


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