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ThirtyOne 18 Aug 2018 23:34

Looks like another The Long Way series is coming
 
Was just flipping through the social media feeds this afternoon and came across a post linking back to a Tweet by Charley Boorman this week stating that Long Way Up is in the works. There was also a photo with the Dave, Russ and Ewan. So perhaps this is going to be it.

I know there's a lot of division about the Long Way series, but I'm excited to see this one happening. These two guys inspired me to think about motorcycle travel over a decade ago.

Considering the advancements in cameras and now drones, I'd imagine that this one will be fantastic to watch.

Mezo 19 Aug 2018 05:30

Well let's hope they choose a more suitable motorcycle this time. :blushing:

Mezo.

antonyp 19 Aug 2018 06:03

I bought my F800GS because of these guys - well, sort off [emoji16]

I hope to see them on the new F850 this time around. Or up, rather [emoji6]

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Mezo 19 Aug 2018 06:16

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Originally Posted by antonyp (Post 588397)
I bought my F800GS because of these guys

Exactly, just because Obi-wan rode it doesn't make it any good. :innocent:

Mezo.

antonyp 19 Aug 2018 06:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 588399)
just because Obi-wan rode it doesn't make it any good. :innocent:

Mezo.

Agreed. But there's a reason why beemers are one of the most popular travelers and it has nothing to do with Obi-wan [emoji1]. Yes, the 1200 GSA was super-heavy and cumbersome for the offroading parts they did but the F800/850 with a bit of suspension work would be close to ideal IMHO [emoji41]. On the other hand, if BMW is sponsoring the bikes they would want to show off their "Flagship" because at the end of the day, money talks [emoji16]

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Threewheelbonnie 19 Aug 2018 13:01

Millionaires "What I did on my holiday" combined with product placement that'd shame a Japanese toymaker/breakfast cereal company :thumbdown:

Think I'll go for a ride instead.

Andy

ThirtyOne 19 Aug 2018 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezo (Post 588396)
Well let's hope they choose a more suitable motorcycle this time. :blushing:

Mezo.

I haven't followed these guys in a while, but the last time I heard Charley Boorman was an ambassador for Triumph. Given how they usually ride flagship bikes for their trips, I would imagine Tiger 1200s would be the bikes.

As for bike choice. Who cares? It's not your trip, your money or your time. Let people ride what they want. We're all enthusiasts. Does it really matter to you personally if they rode Goldwings or 250s?

Snakeboy 19 Aug 2018 18:51

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Originally Posted by ThirtyOne (Post 588428)
I haven't followed these guys in a while, but the last time I heard Charley Boorman was an ambassador for Triumph. Given how they usually ride flagship bikes for their trips, I would imagine Tiger 1200s would be the bikes.

As for bike choice. Who cares? It's not your trip, your money or your time. Let people ride what they want. We're all enthusiasts. Does it really matter to you personally if they rode Goldwings or 250s?

Those guys can of course do whatever they want with exactly the vehicles of their choice (sponsors), 100 % up to them for sure.
I would however never do an overland trip with a 1200 cc bike and 3 support vehicles and 6 cameras. So it would be very little interesting to watch such a series. Maybe to learn how it not should be done....

Nuff Said 19 Aug 2018 19:33

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Maybe to learn how it not should be done..
When you are paid shit loads of money to do a trip? Does one have to consider who is doing right?
But I do understand your point.

markharf 19 Aug 2018 19:35

I went as far as reading the book. Jeez, what a waste of limited forest resources!

It's apparent that the various TV series have created--in the mind of the viewing public, which seems to include almost everyone on the face of the planet--a wholly inaccurate view of "adventure motorcycling." Maybe that's ok, but I find it irritating, and I get tired of responding to people who insist on seeing me in a certain light or explaining at excessive length why I should really make a point of watching the TV series.

On the other hand, if I'm spending a lot of time being offended by the whole phenomenon, I can only conclude that I'm allowing Charlie and Ewan take up residency in my brain and run my life. Who needs that?

Mark

ThirtyOne 19 Aug 2018 19:56

Not everyone likes chocolate, not everyone likes vanilla.

Mr_Head 20 Aug 2018 05:25

I hear they are going with KLR’s. Walmart is the title sponsor.



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*Touring Ted* 20 Aug 2018 09:34

Why not !! It's all fun and games.

And i'll watch it just like everyone else who says they won't.

Lets just hope they've read the feedback from the last trips.

A lot of their last trips were faked. Pretending to camp when they didn't etc. Faked solo sections when they we're chaperoned etc. They lost a lot of respect. But due to Ewan being such a prize for kidnappers, it will be a Saga Tour.

No doubt they will be sponsored to death too. So expect them on the new 1250GSA with 500 KG of luggage and more technology strapped to them than a CyberGoth on a space station. I can hear the buzz of drones already. lol.

Let the controversy begin. :funmeteryes::Beach:

Tomkat 20 Aug 2018 10:58

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Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie (Post 588420)
Millionaires "What I did on my holiday" combined with product placement

I know where you're coming from and it was my first thought as well. It was only a bit later that I thought "the bikes didn't ride themselves" and maybe it was a good advertisement for our community.

Tim Cullis 20 Aug 2018 14:06

News broke on 6 August with a twitter storm, see https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle...9-says-boorman

A few years back 'Long Way Up' was penciled in as Tierra del Fuego to Alaska.

I welcome another trip; by humanising those behind the Darth Vader helmets it changed forever the general public's perception that bikers were thugs. Similar comment for Hairy Bikers.

Yes, it would be nice if the filming was a bit more honest but that's TV for you. Don't really care which marque of bike they ride.

antonyp 20 Aug 2018 14:25

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 588472)
And i'll watch it just like everyone else who says they won't.

I think you hit a few nails on the head there mate [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16].

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Threewheelbonnie 20 Aug 2018 17:32

Not here. If I let the wife watch soap operas I earn time out riding. I do about two hours telly a week.

She found me the book in a charity shop. Its unreadable. Still, the charity can make another pound when it goes back!

What I don't get is why two guys who can afford to just do their trip without the crew and support vehicle and pressure from sponsors wouldn't just go. I'm sure Ewan can come up with some means hiding who he is, like a bit of acting or make-up or something? I'd want to do it that way unless I was trying a career move and didn't fancy Celebrity Big Brother.

Andy

brclarke 20 Aug 2018 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie (Post 588420)
Millionaires "What I did on my holiday" combined with product placement that'd shame a Japanese toymaker/breakfast cereal company :thumbdown:
Think I'll go for a ride instead.
Andy

I have to admit that I've watched and enjoyed both series. I found the Africa one actually quite entertaining. I've never been to Africa, and it was very eye-opening for me to see how beautiful some of their ride was.

ThirtyOne 21 Aug 2018 15:03

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Originally Posted by brclarke (Post 588516)
I have to admit that I've watched and enjoyed both series. I found the Africa one actually quite entertaining. I've never been to Africa, and it was very eye-opening for me to see how beautiful some of their ride was.

Same here. Marked quite a few spots on the map of places to go see for myself.

ThirtyOne 21 Aug 2018 15:05

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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted* (Post 588472)
Why not !! It's all fun and games.

And i'll watch it just like everyone else who says they won't.

Lets just hope they've read the feedback from the last trips.

A lot of their last trips were faked. Pretending to camp when they didn't etc. Faked solo sections when they we're chaperoned etc. They lost a lot of respect. But due to Ewan being such a prize for kidnappers, it will be a Saga Tour.

No doubt they will be sponsored to death too. So expect them on the new 1250GSA with 500 KG of luggage and more technology strapped to them than a CyberGoth on a space station. I can hear the buzz of drones already. lol.

Let the controversy begin. :funmeteryes::Beach:

That's disappointing. I didn't know that. On a side note if you look at the way they packed in Long Way Round vs. Long Way Down you can see that they figured out how to pack a little better. Even if all of that extra bike equipment was transferred to the support vehicles.

tremens 21 Aug 2018 20:06

It was good to watch first series like any motorcycle trip, but with second one they lost me. Anyway it's always interesting to see how you can do a trip when you have unlimited resources :) Medical doctors, security, 3 SUVs, spare bikes, support from home office etc etc fun yeah? :thumbup1:

Weird, so many guys did RTW trips 100% unsupported, on cheap bikes and they haven't been even noticed...Marketing is everything. BMW knows that supplying them motorcycle not like KTM :)

ThirtyOne 22 Aug 2018 01:58

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Originally Posted by tremens (Post 588549)
It was good to watch first series like any motorcycle trip, but with second one they lost me. Anyway it's always interesting to see how you can do a trip when you have unlimited resources :) Medical doctors, security, 3 SUVs, spare bikes, support from home office etc etc fun yeah? :thumbup1:

Weird, so many guys did RTW trips 100% unsupported, on cheap bikes and they haven't been even noticed...Marketing is everything. BMW knows that supplying them motorcycle not like KTM :)


Absolutely. I've met a few overlanders that have been coming through Latin America and quite a few actually turned down sponsorship simply because they didn't want to owe anything to sponsors. No deadlines, no mandatory promotional material, etc. I can see that. Although, if someone offered me a brand new motorcycle I'd probably change my tune.

Sleepdog 22 Aug 2018 21:56

Met a chap a couple of years ago called Steve. He did the same route on a Tiger 800. Wrote a book of his exploits, bloody good read and he did it by himself, heroic if I might say.
I won't say which group of persons were at the bike meet but I'm sure that some on this forum may have been at the same meet. You can probably see his book on Amazon....."Steve and the Tiger"
Perhaps they should contact him for a bit of real life advice?bier


Steve

brclarke 23 Aug 2018 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremens (Post 588549)
Marketing is everything. BMW knows that supplying them motorcycle not like KTM :)

I've sometimes wondered if the marketing folks at KTM are still kicking themselves for not giving them a couple of bikes to use....

Threewheelbonnie 24 Aug 2018 18:39

Or, they'll be slapping themselves on the back for spending nothing, getting a mention as the bike Charlie really wanted and not breaking down and being replaced with an imz?

Andy

jfman 24 Aug 2018 19:23

If they do the Ushuaia to North America run, there is going to be a lot of other bikes and riders on the film.

Adventure riding has changed a lot in the past 15 years and it is much more common to see riders in these remote areas now.

Personally I look forward to seeing it. People need to realize that adventure riding is not a competition sport. Some do it differently than others, to each his own. So even if they are heavily supported, they are still riding.

brclarke 24 Aug 2018 22:29

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Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie (Post 588666)
Or, they'll be slapping themselves on the back for spending nothing, getting a mention as the bike Charlie really wanted and not breaking down and being replaced with an imz?
Andy

LOL... Oh, I doubt it... With Charley jumping up and down and cursing a blue streak at KTM for pulling out at just about the last moment? I imagine someone got fired over it.

tremens 29 Aug 2018 12:37

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Originally Posted by brclarke (Post 588624)
I've sometimes wondered if the marketing folks at KTM are still kicking themselves for not giving them a couple of bikes to use....

well, KTM have worried rather if their big adventure bikes on that time withstand such trip and not break down, which would be bad add. KTM actually did say to them: "we think you not gonna make it" what really could mean, bikes not gonna make it :)

backofbeyond 29 Aug 2018 14:55

First thought when I saw this mentioned was 'Hmm, sounds like Charlie's run out of money again'. :rofl:

It does sound like flogging a dead horse one more time but at least this time the bike manufacturers won't be treating it a dubious stunt by a couple of chancers using a film crew from the local college and the networks will have their previous track record to go by. If they do it well and if EnC don't look like Darby and Joan on day leave from the care home (how long ago was LWR?) I'm sure it'll be financially successful.

I'll certainly watch it although with the same suspension of disbelief I use for every other programme on tv. It may look like they're camping in a swamp with the tent only partly visible through a cloud of mosquitoes and I'll be on the edge of my seat wondering how many diseases they'll have by morning but I'll know they were helicoptered off to a hotel and stunt campers were the ones being bitten. That's Hollywood but it won't stop me watching.

Be interesting to see who else chucks their product placement hats into the ring though. It'll be a list of the great and the good of 'adventure' travel.

stuxtttr 3 Oct 2018 12:59

I fondly remember sitting with my wife and watching the first episode of long way round one boxing day morning (she'd got my the dvd for Christmas) we sat in all day and watched the whole thing (my wife not being into bikes but loving the whole thing).

I don't care if charlie is a bit of a charlie! or that ewan farts $100 bills.

I care that they showed the world that motorbikes and bike travel are fun and that us bikers are not all gang members who rape and pillage everywhere we go.

I welcome any new tv series, i couldnt care less what bikes they use or if they have a huge production team. if it looks good and feels good then its good for mtorcycling.

No one will be forced to watch it and if it gets more people on two wheels then all the better for it

backofbeyond 3 Oct 2018 13:59

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Originally Posted by stuxtttr (Post 590267)

I welcome any new tv series, i couldnt care less what bikes they use or if they have a huge production team. if it looks good and feels good then its good for motorcycling.


I'd be happy with reruns of the old ones as well. I'm even beginning to miss Henry Cole now that Greatest Bike Rides seems to be shed and buried. :rofl::rofl:

moggy 1968 5 Nov 2018 00:44

Must be getting short of money :innocent:

Well, charlie anyways, I think Ewans doing all right.

The first one, long way round, was good and I really enjoyed it, long way down was a bit of a whinge fest and I didn't like it much.

TBH I think there's a lot of inverted snobbery about, with people just criticising them for the sake of it or sour grapes. Hey, if you can do a bit of travelling and make a few bob from it, and get someone else to provide all your gear, well why the hell not?!

moggy 1968 5 Nov 2018 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThirtyOne (Post 588542)
That's disappointing. I didn't know that. On a side note if you look at the way they packed in Long Way Round vs. Long Way Down you can see that they figured out how to pack a little better. Even if all of that extra bike equipment was transferred to the support vehicles.

Sounds like one of those bitter urban myths to me, same as you hear about Bear grills. I didn't see, and haven't seen, any evidence that was the case. yes some bits they might decide to say a particular thing, and yes they have fixers and a support crew, anyone that thinks you can make a series without that is deranged, but I have no doubt in my mind that any suggestion of it being faked or setup is just a bit deranged.
even if you read it in some obscure press article, it doesn't make it so, most of the shit in newspapers is made up bollocks, especially the sniping at successful people or celebrities, it's just the actions of sad washed up people who didn't do quite as well in life as they think they should have so ended up writing for the daily fail (or worse!!) and try and big themselves up at others expense.

ChrisFS 13 Nov 2018 07:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by antonyp (Post 588400)
Agreed. But there's a reason why beemers are one of the most popular travelers and it has nothing to do with Obi-wan [emoji1].

A couple of reasons probably.
In no particular order ... they are decent bikes ... badge snobs have to have the so called 'premium' brand.

tremens 14 Nov 2018 10:13

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Originally Posted by ChrisFS (Post 591795)
A couple of reasons probably.
In no particular order ... they are decent bikes ... badge snobs have to have the so called 'premium' brand.

right, who would watch LWR if they were riding DRZ400 for instance...

moggy 1968 19 Nov 2018 00:02

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Originally Posted by tremens (Post 591855)
right, who would watch LWR if they were riding DRZ400 for instance...

truly don't give a shit, they can do it on BMXs for all I care, if it's a good watch, I'll watch it

7800 26 Nov 2018 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 588487)
News broke on 6 August with a twitter storm, see https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle...9-says-boorman

A few years back 'Long Way Up' was penciled in as Tierra del Fuego to Alaska.

I welcome another trip; by humanising those behind the Darth Vader helmets it changed forever the general public's perception that bikers were thugs. Similar comment for Hairy Bikers.

Yes, it would be nice if the filming was a bit more honest but that's TV for you. Don't really care which marque of bike they ride.


Totally agree! Many moons ago when I did my second trip around the world(not on a bike) I was in Bali. I was reading entries in a guest book made by so called travelers slating people who went to Kuta because it was “so touristy”. They thought that they were somehow elitist because they chose a different way of travelling. Can we all say that we wouldn’t stay in 5 star hotels, consoling ourselves with the fact that it’s all about the riding not where we sleep. If you want to wild camp and rough it I take my hat off to you. I’ve washed clothes in a river with a crowd watching which I loved at the time. I wouldn’t knock someone for using a laundry service though as it’s their choice. Don’t knock someone for doing it the easy way applaud them for doing it at all. Love them or hate them they have inspired others to travel by motorbike doing it in their own ways.

I learned that everyone has something they can tell you that will help you, you just have to find out what it is.

All of the above is just my humble opinion

:thumbup1:

moggy 1968 27 Nov 2018 18:56

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Originally Posted by 7800 (Post 592430)
Totally agree! Many moons ago when I did my second trip around the world(not on a bike) I was in Bali. I was reading entries in a guest book made by so called travelers slating people who went to Kuta because it was “so touristy”. They thought that they were somehow elitist because they chose a different way of travelling.

:thumbup1:

That'll be all those middle class 'travellers' taking a year off to see the world with, err, other middle class backpackers :rofl:

totally agree with your sentiments, each to their own, just get out there and do it and don't damage anything or anyone on the way. Leave no trace except good memories.

pawleyk 17 Dec 2018 17:51

Well, I'm excited. I know they pushed the drama a little on the last one, but it'll be shot beautifully and Latin America is very close to my heart.

tremens 17 Dec 2018 22:14

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Originally Posted by pawleyk (Post 593229)
Well, I'm excited. I know they pushed the drama a little on the last one, but it'll be shot beautifully and Latin America is very close to my heart.

I can recommend then other movie "Motonomad III" (Riders of the Andes) about 3 ktms 500 exc crossing off-road Latin America.

http://www.advpulse.com/wp-content/u...rt-movie-3.jpg

Tim Cullis 18 Dec 2018 21:49

I laugh when I see riders standing on the pegs on a piste that's as smooth as a billiard table.

Is it because I'm getting old and lazy and can't be bothered to stand?

tremens 19 Dec 2018 11:47

well, looks better on photos doesn't it?
But they may have been just stretching their legs as well after long haul or looking far ahead to heave better view :)

stuxtttr 19 Dec 2018 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremens (Post 591855)
right, who would watch LWR if they were riding DRZ400 for instance...

I'm pretty sure there were many occasions during both trips that they longed for the simplicity and ease of a drz just look at how much more fun Claudio had when he got his little red rocket! :scooter:

MEZ 31 Dec 2018 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremens (Post 588874)
well, KTM have worried rather if their big adventure bikes on that time withstand such trip and not break down, which would be bad add. KTM actually did say to them: "we think you not gonna make it" what really could mean, bikes not gonna make it :)

A little known fact about all this is that two bikes were actually dropped off at the warehouse, full support offered but then later the bikes were taken back after money was demanded but not given, nothing to do with bikes breaking down i'm afraid, morality and dignity against corporate success, who was right and who was wrong..? At the end of the day I would welcome any bike related TV coverage and I haven't even got a telly :rolleyes2:

Tomkat 31 Dec 2018 11:48

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Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 593285)
I laugh when I see riders standing on the pegs on a piste that's as smooth as a billiard table.

Photos can be deceptive on the smoothness or otherwise of a surface. Many times out green laning I've been happily sitting daydreaming when a big ripple or pothole has jarred me awake via my poor old back. You also have more control on loose surfaces if you're standing.

At the end of the day what were we saying? Do what floats your boat and let others do what suits them ;)

moggy 1968 10 Jan 2019 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEZ (Post 593747)
A little known fact about all this is that two bikes were actually dropped off at the warehouse, full support offered but then later the bikes were taken back after money was demanded but not given, nothing to do with bikes breaking down i'm afraid, morality and dignity against corporate success, who was right and who was wrong..? At the end of the day I would welcome any bike related TV coverage and I haven't even got a telly :rolleyes2:

money demanded by which party?

mossproof 11 Jan 2019 10:20

[QUOTE=Tim Cullis;593285]I laugh when I see riders standing on the pegs on a piste that's as smooth as a billiard table.

So did I, then I spent a couple of days on a BMW 310 in Morocco and I realised the reason all the marketing pics show a rider standing is because the "seat" is designed for the line of the bike, not the shape of the arse!
I also discovered that the pics show riders "backing it in" to corners 'cause that's the only way to turn the things on gravel at anything other than walking pace!

Dazzerrtw1 11 Jan 2019 13:54

I agree with Tim on the standing up on the Pegs .

Living in the Yorkshire Dales we now see many riders on what are now called " Adventure Bikes " ... who ride on the main road through the village while standing up on their pegs . You only need to go back a hand full of years and you never saw that .

is it because the seats so bad on these bikes that its impossible to remain seated between the biker cafe stops ?

Or is it because its showing off ? or they have seen videos or adverts showing riders stood up ?

I have no idea why some do it. I can say it does look rather silly on a main road.

?c?

Temporaryescapee 11 Jan 2019 17:14

Looks like another The Long Way series is coming
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzerrtw1 (Post 594358)
I agree with Tim on the standing up on the Pegs .

Living in the Yorkshire Dales we now see many riders on what are now called " Adventure Bikes " ... who ride on the main road through the village while standing up on their pegs . You only need to go back a hand full of years and you never saw that .

is it because the seats so bad on these bikes that its impossible to remain seated between the biker cafe stops ?

Or is it because its showing off ? or they have seen videos or adverts showing riders stood up ?

I have no idea why some do it. I can say it does look rather silly on a main road.

?c?


I ride a KTM Freeride in long distance trials. You couldn’t do more than 20 miles sat down on that.

I know i look a plonker on the tar road, but every 20 mins or so i ride for 5 mins standing to give my backside a break!




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MEZ 12 Jan 2019 19:15

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Originally Posted by moggy 1968 (Post 594317)
money demanded by which party?



By the riders....!!!!


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moggy 1968 27 Jan 2019 01:14

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Originally Posted by MEZ (Post 594426)
By the riders....!!!!


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really? so they wanted free bikes and money?
Where did that story come from? Is it a credible source?


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