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MountainMan 19 Apr 2012 21:09

Highway Riding at 299km/hour
 
victoria highway run 299km - YouTube

Anybody seen this? Some crazy kid, 25 years old, 25 previous infractions riding on the highway near Victoria and was stupid enough to post the video on youtube. The cops now have the bike, next up have to prove it was the kid riding.

banditderek 20 Apr 2012 05:07

This is gonna cause haters to come at me. Good for this guy. There are too many rules out there. This is what fast bikes are for. Whats the point of having a 300kph bike if you only ever do the speed limit. The law is in an ever increasing strangle grip of its citizens, in any country, and its nice to see someone willing to give them the finger. And it looked like he had some talent too, swift and clean through the cars, consistent throttle. Good rider.

Threewheelbonnie 20 Apr 2012 07:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditderek (Post 376126)
This is gonna cause haters to come at me. .

Not from me. The whole concept of a speed limit is stupid. 80 mph on a bright sunny Sunday morning with not a car in sight, vehicle designed for 150 mph and recently serviced and checked over by the governments own inspectors, driver/rider has been doing this for 30 years: Illegal in the UK. 29 mph in freezing fog, black ice on the road, outside a school, fifty year old vehicle, hasn't seen any mechanical professional for 11 months but still meets safety standards set in 1937, driver passed the test the day before: Can't touch you until some kiddie is already dead.

Andy

RTWbyBIKE.com 20 Apr 2012 07:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainMan (Post 376071)
victoria highway run 299km - YouTube

Anybody seen this? Some crazy kid, 25 years old, 25 previous infractions riding on the highway near Victoria and was stupid enough to post the video on youtube. The cops now have the bike, next up have to prove it was the kid riding.

Stupidity in action! If he does that on a racetrack or in any other "closed" circuit I am fine with that, but if he does this on an public/open street it is just madness. If he kills himself who cares but on a public street he could kill anybody.

It is just a luck factor nothing to do with driving skills etc... This guy (s) should be looked away for long time to make the streets safer and because he put a bad light on all motorcycle drivers and travelers!

My opinion to that (and I am from Germany where you can do such madness legal on most highways).

cheers

anonymous1 20 Apr 2012 07:54

Dipstick
 
There is no denying the bloke riding the bike is a hotplate short of a BBQ !

Now before you start jumping up and down, I too have ridden on public roads at 300 K's +. The difference is, Halfabbq in the video is passing umpteen cars that would not see him comming at that speed, lucky he's not mincemeat. When I was stupid enough to do it it was leagal, on the NT roads anyway.


I also agree 100% about being over goverened. Once our open speed limits were abolished and we got a licence point system to boot ! CLAIR MARTIN our then chief minister saw to that. Not only did the road toll double there after the £&%* promptly up and left town. Nice one, good on ya......

What ever happend to the backbone ?

docsherlock 20 Apr 2012 09:52

Tit short of an udder, that bloke.

Don't suppose he'll last long, in or out of jail.

Scrabblebiker 20 Apr 2012 14:20

This happened on a highway which I ride and drive several days each week. The video ended just past my exit, a few blocks from my home. This is in a small relaxed city of 400,000 people, during rush hour. A city where people do not expect this kind of driving.

His actions were stupid, irresponsible and downright sociopathic. If someone wants to ride fast and take the risk of offing oneself, find a deserted road somewhere and go for it. Better yet, go to the race track. I've ridden fast myself but this is simply inexcusable. A 500lb bike/rider combination at 300 km/h can be downright lethal to others (I don't care what happens to the perpetrator) in the event of a collision.

The mother, who is the registered owner of the bike, has now been fined a total of over $1400 and the bike has been seized. The police is now working at permanently confiscating the bike under BC's Civil Forfeiture law.

Good work Saanich Police! The majority of bikers do not support this sociopath, even though most of us believe that the speed limits are too low.


...Michelle

John Downs 20 Apr 2012 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwnite (Post 376133)
There is no denying the bloke riding the bike is a hotplate short of a BBQ !

Good one Darwinite. Love those Ozzyisms.

An interesting sidenote. We have an award named after your fair city.

This lad hasn't won the Darwin award yet. But with 25 offenses and over riding his brakes by 100-200 kph he's an odds on favorite to win it soon.

With recidivism like that, there is little chance of reform. Just one car changing lanes suddenly will likely be the end for this thrill seeker.

Cheers,
John Downs

MountainMan 20 Apr 2012 21:17

Interesting. I hadn't thought that this specific incident would for some people trigger the thought that we are over regulated with speed limits.

For me, that's a different issue. I'm not super keen on the idea of having to ride at 100km on a wide open highway, but can appreciate that travelling at 199km over the posted speed limit in traffic is downright insane.

Victoria is a slow paced small city filled with a lot of blue haired retirees. The good thing about the province of B.C. is that is a huge place (about a million square kilometres). If a person really wants to ride their bike fast, head out out of town or better yet leave the southern part of the province.

There are only 4.5 million people in the whole province and once you head into the interior, there is almost no population. Riding at over the speed limit there is your own choice as you are only putting yourself in danger (and perhaps the local moose or deer population).

Over regulation is probably a valid debate in these less populated areas where you'll be on an open highway and the limit stays at 100kmh, or 110kmh max with nary a vehicle or person to pass for many a kilometre. In populated areas, the speed limits serve a few purposes including saving lives.

markharf 20 Apr 2012 23:08

This is a funny thread. Those who want to make a stand on their god-given right to ride as fast as they please can probably find a better standard-bearer than this particular rider. Acting like a jackass is your right provided you can do so without endangering others (or costing significant money for law enforcement, hospital bills, disability and re-training benefits, burial fees, or hiring someone to hose down the pavement when it's covered with his blood, gore and bone fragments).

This guy fails to qualify on any number of counts. How skilled a rider he is (or not) has not even the faintest bearing on on his status as a total jackass. Nor does it have bearing on what a total jackass anyone else doing anything remotely similar is.

IMHO, of course. Mountain Man puts it more politely than I (as usual!).

Mark

freedomseeker 20 Apr 2012 23:41

i am all for fast riding on tracks etc but on roads like that he will kill someone, yes the police have got the bike and also a shed load of video to persuade the powers that be to bring more legislation down on the motorcycling world ???

Good Rider NO in no way anyone can ride on the stop on roads like that weaving all over the road, on a track hed probally get outbraked on the first bend then spend the rest of the race catching up :thumbdown: sorry but no skill or class just mindless riding with no reguard of others

anonymous1 21 Apr 2012 03:11

Halfabbq
 
I’m not at all surprised this thread has sparked some interesting comments.

Cheers JD ;-)

It costs us all, I'd be willing to bet some no-life sitting in an office somewhere will up the ante on statistics and we all suffer as a consequence, more road rules, anti bike legislation, more speed cameras, higher insurance premiums ect, ect, ect. BEWDY !

Riding skills ? IMO he couldn’t ride a 3 wheeler with pedals & training wheels. As Barry Sheene said about Norik Abe when going round the outside of Mick Doohan “Ahh dont worry about it. He doesn’t know how much it hurts yet”

The only funny thing about Halfabbq’s stunt would be seeing the look on his face when he’s confronted with phrases to the tune of, “were gona play mommies n daddies” en route to the big house with the rest of the window lickers.

John Downs 21 Apr 2012 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwnite (Post 376258)
The only funny thing about Halfabbq’s stunt would be seeing the look on his face when he’s confronted with phrases to the tune of, “were gona play mommies n daddies” en route to the big house with the rest of the window lickers.

Made me laugh.

I've got to get to Darwin so I can get some learning. You have a way with the English language.

Too funny.

Cheers,
John Downs

Threewheelbonnie 21 Apr 2012 09:09

The charge should be Dangerous riding/driving, the number on the speedo is just a catch all for lazy cops and law makers. Do those who support the speeding laws actually believe the fool in the video would be safe at the speed limit? I'd say his attention level would be so poor he'd be just as likely to kill someone.

Andy

Scrabblebiker 21 Apr 2012 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedomseeker (Post 376240)
i am all for fast riding on tracks etc but on roads like that he will kill someone, yes the police have got the bike and also a shed load of video to persuade the powers that be to bring more legislation down on the motorcycling world ???

Our provincial leader, Christy Clark, was interviewed on TV about this incident and was asked if there should be restrictions placed on what types of bikes should be allowed to operate on our roads. Thankfully she quickly ruled out any further legislation. But you do bring up a very valid point. Idiots like this and those who believe he's some sort of hero are at least partly to blame for more and more legislation being introduced.


...Michelle

Scrabblebiker 21 Apr 2012 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie (Post 376272)
The charge should be Dangerous riding/driving, the number on the speedo is just a catch all for lazy cops and law makers. Do those who support the speeding laws actually believe the fool in the video would be safe at the speed limit? I'd say his attention level would be so poor he'd be just as likely to kill someone.

Andy

The registered owner of the bike, his mother is being charged with and fined a total of $1449 for driving without due care and attention, excessive speed, and driving without insurance. Under BC law the owner of a motor vehicle is held liable for its' operation regardless of who was driving it. She now has the option of formally declaring who was in control of the vehicle to remove the burden of the charges from herself. Otherwise the actual driver can't be charged unless witness to whom this twit bragged come forward to testify.

Here's a link to the full story.

Police seize motorcycle in 299-km/h joy ride


The police have a suspect but can't name him since they can't yet charge him due to lack of proof. But a local TV news channel has named the suspect, Randy Scott, and even showed his Facebook profile picture along with one of his posts bragging about fast riding without insurance. Not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

...Michelle

markharf 21 Apr 2012 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie (Post 376272)
Do those who support the speeding laws actually believe the fool in the video would be safe at the speed limit? I'd say his attention level would be so poor he'd be just as likely to kill someone.

If he's that unsafe, he shouldn't be permitted to drive. Period. Same goes for you, for me, and for his mom. No one has a right to drive on public highways unless he/she can do it in relative safety.

Note that I'm not claiming safety is ever absolute, and I'm not taking a stand on exactly how safe is safe enough. I'm saying that if your statement (quoted above) is true, this particular person falls way short of the standard by which one is permitted to drive.

Do you disagree? If so, we're living on different planets.

Mark

anonymous1 21 Apr 2012 23:52

[QUOTE=Scrabblebiker;376277]The registered owner of the bike, his mother is being charged with and fined a total of $1449


Wouldnt it be a jaw dropper if the actual person riding the bike was his Mom ! :eek3: LMAO

Rory799 22 Apr 2012 00:31

Shame the devil
 
Shame the Devil - tell the trouth
Come one folks, tell the trouth, We all wish we could drive like that!
We all drive around following the speed limits, being "Mr Perfect Rider", but in the back of your mind this, Mad Man ,sits waiting to be released.
Whare as I don't aprove of his actions, I wish I had his balls to do it!

These are the thoughts of a sane and normal Scotsman with a litre of wine and only a half litre of whiskey in his system ie- reasonably sober.:thumbup1:
Rory

markharf 22 Apr 2012 04:45

I wouldn't mind having his skills, but I've no inclination to ever do anything like that. You can call it "balls" but I call it "sheer unadulterated stupidity." It changes nothing.

FWIW, I'm no Mr. Perfect, and I seldom follow speed limits. That, too, has nothing to do with the guy in the video.

Mark

Scrabblebiker 22 Apr 2012 05:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rory799 (Post 376359)
Shame the Devil - tell the trouth
Come one folks, tell the trouth, We all wish we could drive like that!
We all drive around following the speed limits, being "Mr Perfect Rider", but in the back of your mind this, Mad Man ,sits waiting to be released.
Whare as I don't aprove of his actions, I wish I had his balls to do it!

These are the thoughts of a sane and normal Scotsman with a litre of wine and only a half litre of whiskey in his system ie- reasonably sober.:thumbup1:
Rory

Well Rory, you may be Mr. Perfect who obeys every law and speed limit.
:innocent:

But I can assure you that many people on here (maybe most?), myself included, are anything but little Ms. Perfects. We do like to crack that throttle in the proper environment and have our own little thrills. But doing stuff like that in traffic while weaving through Mommy, Daddy and the kids heading up island for the weekend is sheer sociopathic lunacy and simply can't be excused.


...Michelle

realmc26 24 Apr 2012 12:15

Banditderekn and rory799 I'm more than a little shocked that anybody could seriously admire this kid in anyway shape or form.
I've been attending accidents as a firefighter for 22 years and many a time had to extract a lifeless broken body from a car killed by a moron like this kid.
A few weeks ago a 23 year old shot across a quiet side street at 100km ph , double the speed limit narrowly missing a couple on their way home after a quiet night out, to hit a brick wall.
As we removed his mangled body from the car, arms and legs snapped like twigs and dangling by skin only, I only felt anger that this moron nearly killed 2 innocent people and his own family were going to have to deal with his death and the sight of his smashed up body. I wont go into details on what his face looked like.
It wasn't a bike but the mentality was identical to that idiot doing 200km above the limit.

If this kid is a hero to you I think you need to take a real hard look at yourself

Steve aka Ratty / frozen rat 24 Apr 2012 19:05

I too have ridden at high speed on that portion of hiway however I did it at 3:00AM,Time and Place considered.
The person who the video shows is a pair of hands that's all that can be seen,the bike is a blue bike that's all that I can see,as for the police (aka Saanichton Nazis) catching this guy from a IP Address pfft...they are playing on the ignorance of the publics knowledge, I guess they have know idea that one can download something from the Internet and then post it whereas it shows the suspects IP.They Have nothing other than some disgruntled neighbors that don't like bikes (aka Blue Hairs).
The cops are shooting for more media exposure so they can prove to the city how they need more overpriced SUV's and higher speed crusers is my guess,
I have been in Mexico and Guatemala for the last four months and have put donations in cups for the police and ambulance staff so that they can purchase GAS and these clowns want the public to see their Weak efforts of catching a bad guy on a bike,Personally I hope the mother sues the crap outa the city and the suspect reply to the investigators, Well,"It wasn't me". should be the only reply needed,and then also sues the crap outa the city for deflamation.

Scrabblebiker 25 Apr 2012 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve aka Ratty / frozen rat (Post 376751)
I too have ridden at high speed on that portion of hiway however I did it at 3:00AM,Time and Place considered.
The person who the video shows is a pair of hands that's all that can be seen,the bike is a blue bike that's all that I can see,as for the police (aka Saanichton Nazis) catching this guy from a IP Address pfft...they are playing on the ignorance of the publics knowledge, I guess they have know idea that one can download something from the Internet and then post it whereas it shows the suspects IP.They Have nothing other than some disgruntled neighbors that don't like bikes (aka Blue Hairs).
The cops are shooting for more media exposure so they can prove to the city how they need more overpriced SUV's and higher speed crusers is my guess,
I have been in Mexico and Guatemala for the last four months and have put donations in cups for the police and ambulance staff so that they can purchase GAS and these clowns want the public to see their Weak efforts of catching a bad guy on a bike,Personally I hope the mother sues the crap outa the city and the suspect reply to the investigators, Well,"It wasn't me". should be the only reply needed,and then also sues the crap outa the city for deflamation.

What they have is a video which shows several scratches on the bike's cockpit which exactly match the scratches on the seized bike. No angry anti-cop tirade is going to change that. They obviously did some detective work and then positively identified the bike via the IP address and tips from the public. I seriously doubt that he bragged to "blue hairs" but more likely to his age peers, some of whom would have been disgusted by this, or simply didn't like him ...he's not exactly a winner. I work in an industry where the workers are in their twenties and early thirties. They're pretty much universally disgusted by this twit.

I'm hoping that as long as they followed proper procedures a judge will agree that this is the bike in question and will grant the permanent forfeiture under the Civil Forfeiture Act. BC law makes the owner of a motor vehicle liable for its' operation even if they weren't driving it. Somebody will be out a $15,000 bike ...I hope!

Charges against the actual driver will unfortunately be more difficult unless someone comes forward to testify. We can only hope that the universe will sort this out without innocent victims involved. Anyone who endangers the public, drives at 300km/h on a busy highway, does so on a bike not registered in his own name, has only a learners licence, has no insurance, has 27 moving violations, and has 5 licence suspensions is beneath contempt and definitely not a hero.


...Michelle

Hornet 25 Apr 2012 13:38

As long as he doesn't hurt anyone when he kills himself, I'm ok with it! Absolute maddness, it's a public road!

Thefastone 1 May 2012 20:31

Rights
 
We pay are taxes to use the road, my oppinion on any empty road why should someone else tell me how fast i carnt go.

Thefastone:funmeteryes:

bajanz 8 May 2012 18:18

riding without any regard for the law
 
You take your chances, you pay the price.....this guy is probably going to jail for street racing infractions. (greater than 50km over the posted limit). In most countries this type of riding is extremely frowned upon, but the beauty of having a bike in some countries is that you are allowed to split lanes (without exceeding the limit just to be technical). Canada has some of the most unfriendly biker attitudes anywhere. You can't even go around cars and shuffle to the front of the line at a red light, let alone split lanes while moving. The whole idea of a bike is the smaller footprint, and being able to get around traffic and parking. The fact that you are a smaller more nimble mode of transportation gets you nowhere in Canada....you get targeted because the cops are all expecting some kind of "short cut" type of behaviour.
Where I now live (Barbados) bikes can go anywhere, and go around all manner of traffic without fear of being hounded. It really is a little too "freestyle" as a lot of the riders here have high powered super motard type bikes (a lot with no lights, etc.). These fellows pull huge wheelies every where and anywhere....it's a little sad because they give a bad name to all the other more safety conscious riders. However, most of it is just showing off without going to the extremes of the rider on Vancouver Island. WI wouldn't attempt any of those things in Canada. Somewhere along the line, each rider will choose how far he will go in skirting the legal limits when on their bike....one just needs to be aware of the penalties in the various jurisdictions because the Canadian anti-Street racing laws include forfeiture of the vehicle. (recently this included 15 exotics like Ferrari's, Lamborghini's etc. in one swoop on some very wealthy Chinese brats)

Scrabblebiker 25 Jul 2012 22:43

More developments:


Saanich, B.C., police lay charge in 300 km/h motorcycle video - British Columbia - CBC News



Accused in B.C. 300 km/h motorcycle video surrenders - British Columbia - CBC News


...Michelle
www.scrabblebiker.com


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