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albert crutcher 26 Sep 2008 23:10

Boring British
 
Are the British turning into a bunch of boring old wankers now that everything is ruled by their leftwing nanny state or is there hope for them yet.

PocketHead 26 Sep 2008 23:50

dunno, I think they're pretty rooted by political correctness, I recall reading the british police had an advertisement with a picture of a cute puppy on it and they had to take them all down because dogs offend some religions for being 'dirty'.

albert crutcher 27 Sep 2008 00:16

In the end
 
and they will indeed end up being "rooted" by political correctness.Very sad indeed
Al theturtleshead

tprata56 27 Sep 2008 05:52

Sharia Law
 
Sadly, I am afraid England is lost. I read that parts of England are adopting
Sharia Law. How insane is that! It is suicide. Alas, I think it is true, liberalism is a mental disorder.

A country and a people I love and admire all down the tube for political correctness.

Mr. Churchill is turning his grave.

RIP England

mollydog 27 Sep 2008 06:04

Al, you really should read some history. Very educational mate.

xfiltrate 27 Sep 2008 06:05

Bash Plates and the British
 
"I only know what I read in the newspapers" (Will Rogers quote) , but I have noticed great attention, on the part of the British riders, to their bash plates. Does this have any political significance, I don't know. Do you? Just kidding Wayne.... xfiltrate

Shak 27 Sep 2008 17:26

Man, it ain`t that bad over here.

Ok, the country is being run by the Missing Link but there isn`t any Sharia law over here and won`t ever be (well not for the next few months anyway!).

Alexlebrit 27 Sep 2008 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by tprata56 (Post 208535)
Sadly, I am afraid England is lost. I read that parts of England are adopting
Sharia Law.

Where on earth did you read that, The National Enquirer?

Warthog 27 Sep 2008 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by tprata56 (Post 208535)
I read that parts of England are adopting
Sharia Law.

Hmmmm.... Seems a lot has changed since I left there 9 months ago, and certainly a lot since I visited in July.

Perhaps I should email my mates more often to really keep abreast of what is happening....:rolleyes:

That said, multi-cultural sensitivity is a positive thing but political correctness, the malignant version of the former, is the slow demise of independent thought...

Dodger 27 Sep 2008 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert crutcher (Post 208517)
Are the British turning into a bunch of boring old wankers now that everything is ruled by their leftwing nanny state or is there hope for them yet.

YES and
NO.

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 04:35

Oh,er,madam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 208539)
I'm surprised to see a 'Publican tossing out such inflamatory crap in the Bar.
Liable to get yourself headbutted mate.... maybe by one of your own staff! :rofl:

None us relish political correctness .... to a point.

Nanny State? Are you currently paying taxes in the UK that help pay for your national health program? Do you pay tax in Ecuador or Colombia?

I guess in the USA we don't have a Nanny State since 70 million people and 20 million children, have no health insurance at all. Nada.

In the end, this costs the taxpayers (you know, the actual working people paying for the Nanny state) about triple the cost because folks show up at emergency rooms for care, hospitals and private insurance companies "bone" the govt. and over charge for everything. No one complains, no one is asking, the govt. just pays. Actually .... we all pay!

You should thank God you're so called UK Nanny State and its leaders have thought better of it's role in the losing Iraq and Afganistan wars. We can't have a Nanny State anymore cause our country is fookin' broke ... to the tune of 3 Trillion dollars in debt to the Chinese. So Bush and Company (include McCain in this cabal)have dug us into massive debt, set off a massive panic on Wall Street (yes, they are related). I won't see the recovery in my lifetime.

Major Corporations are the ones sucking off the teat of the Nanny State. Oil companies, Weapons makers, and companies like Monsanto and Carhgill who are controlling food markets world wide. Big UK companies are playing this same game, all controlled by the same multinationals.

Hey Al, will your pension still be there for you when you come home?
I'm sure you won't accept it and will donate it to your favorite football team.
If you took it, you'd be on the dole, living off that evil Left Wing Nanny State. :smartass:

Al, you really should read some history. Very educational mate.

Oooo Deary me stirred up someone eh!
Yes I do pay taxes in Ecuador and Colombia and No I won,t be going home for any pension.
I,ll be down here in the third world exploiting the poor!!!
You know by giving them work and paying a reasonable wage etc.
Feel free to tell us all your cures for the woes of todays world,I,m sure we,d all like to know! very easy to complain.Not so easy to come up with a viable alternative.
Al theturtleshead

Warthog 28 Sep 2008 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert crutcher (Post 208627)
Oooo Deary me stirred up someone eh!


Strange. You sound disappointed...

After all, is that not what you wanted?

Most trolls on here are a little more camourflaged than your first post....

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 15:22

Wow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Warthog (Post 208644)
Strange. You sound disappointed...

After all, is that not what you wanted?

Most trolls on here are a little more camourflaged than your first post....

That added at lot to the discussion didn,t it.Even though you,re in Estonia,you,re still managing to be boring!
Al theturtleshead

CornishDaddy 28 Sep 2008 15:43

Mistake
 
Al,

Obviously someone or something has got under your skin.

My advice to you is that you make a mistake whenever you tar one nation with one brush, no matter who they are.

All you can do is judge individuals by their actions, as I am sure most HUBBERs will do from your recent posts.

CHeers

Ollie

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 16:26

Indeed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CornishDeity (Post 208672)
Al,

Obviously someone or something has got under your skin.

My advice to you is that you make a mistake whenever you tar one nation with one brush, no matter who they are.

All you can do is judge individuals by their actions, as I am sure most HUBBERs will do from your recent posts.

CHeers

Ollie

My recent posts are simply an atempt to get some kind of interesting discussion going on this otherwise dull part of this site.You,re not helping the boring British thing.
All those speed cameras and petty laws must be getting you down.
Al theturtleshead

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 16:34

As for
 
As for judging individuals for their actions I suggest you read all my posts.
Al theturtleshead

Warthog 28 Sep 2008 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert crutcher (Post 208669)
That added at lot to the discussion didn,t it.Even though you,re in Estonia,you,re still managing to be boring!
Al theturtleshead

Discussion?

Is that what this is?
Lets just say I am adding about as much as your first post deserved.

In fact, given the profound and astute opinions you shared with us in that initial post, I'd say you were the boring one...

It seems that your recent burst of creativity, which started with a desperate cry for "interesting" topics in the HU Bar, climaxed with this: a thread that says, well, not a lot really....

Can't have fun unless you're winding people up, eh?

tommysmithfromleeds 28 Sep 2008 17:25

again "dont poke the bear" comes to mind but...
 
I am 20, I live in Britain, I am not bored and would not consider myself as boring. Sharia law has not coming into play as of yet and even if it does it will only be in certain muslim areas, in fact there are parts of my home county that resemble a Baghdad market rather than a gloomy mining town, this is certainly not boring!

It is a really interesting discussion to be had, I have it with my friends every day. The ruling though being centuries of colonisation and empire building has left Britain's people fending for themselves. Parts of this place luck like a post apocalyptic town and that a real shame.

Still you can't take it out of me, I am proud to be a Brit, but would like this topic to point out the problems rather that criticise the people.

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 17:28

Still boring
 
It,s this kind of boring answer that,ll kill the thing alright.
Let,s stick to why in boring Britain the pubs close to early,there,s a speed camera on every block,you can,t smoke anywhere and they,ll still tax you to death anyway for even thinking about doing anything you might enjoy.
Oh yeah less holidays and more work hours than anywhere else other than the states,hideously expensive petrol and still no-one seems to mind.
Al theturtleshead

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 17:30

Sorry
 
Sorry Tommy not you the guy before you!!!
Al the turtleshead

tommysmithfromleeds 28 Sep 2008 17:36

thanks as i was struggling to come up with a half decent answer.....

pottsy 28 Sep 2008 17:50

Ah well, at least you're only Brit-bashing us verbally (from a safe distance...) and not physically (not yet, anyway!:rofl:).:innocent: Will this Sceptered Isle be enjoying your presence anytime soon?

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 18:18

Medellin
 
Actually I,ve just opened a new business in Colombia,Medellin to be exact.It,s also known as the city of eternal springtime.
It,s got loads of windey roads,good restaurants and a ton of hot chicks.
So I,ll let you guess at my return date!!!
Just to add on! my home country of Scotland may be even dumber! as after watching Braveheart they wasted a shitload of money on a parliment that charges them more and still pay for the other bunch in Westminster.
The new parliment after a year and a half cannot get the Cental heating in my 79 and 89 year old parents house fixed,leaving them to freeze.
I thought I was in the third world.
Al theturtleshead

Carl P 28 Sep 2008 18:52

If you have the means open a business in another country you would think you could also look after your elderly parents.

Oh yeah I forgot that's the governments job isn't it, I agree with you, let em freeze.

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl P (Post 208706)
If you have the means open a business in another country you would think you could also look after your elderly parents.

Oh yeah I forgot that's the governments job isn't it, I agree with you, let em freeze.

I already did mate,but they feel that having payed taxes their whole lives and fighting in wars etc actually means they might be entitled to some decent treatment in their old age!!!
How many years of Labour are we at now.
Al theturtleshead

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 19:07

Exellent idea
 
I also love the idea that because I have a business in a foreign country that I must have plenty of cash,maybe I should have moved to Spain.
Al theturtleshead

CornishDaddy 28 Sep 2008 19:08

Both you and the government have left them freeze
 
It would seem both you and the government have left them freeze Al.

Boring I/we may be. But at least compassionate.

Mind the trolls .......

Warthog 28 Sep 2008 19:22

Well, I'm sorry if a political topic for "debate" like this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert crutcher (Post 208689)
....Let,s stick to why in boring Britain the pubs close to early,there,s a speed camera on every block,you can,t smoke anywhere and they,ll still tax you to death anyway for even thinking about doing anything you might enjoy.
Oh yeah less holidays and more work hours than anywhere else other than the states,hideously expensive petrol and still no-one seems to mind.
Al theturtleshead

....was not immediately evident from remarks like....

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert crutcher (Post 208517)
Are the British turning into a bunch of boring old wankers .....

Put simply, comments like your first post just look like a troll or a chip on the shoulder, rather than trying to promote a discussion of reasoned arguements, if that is indeed what you hoped to do.

If all that still labels me as "boring", so be it... but don't now be surprised if you're not taken seriously...

stuxtttr 28 Sep 2008 19:39

What a load of old tosh dear boy !

Maybe some sharia law could sort the old place out but lets be fair if you can name a country without dodgy politics then you must be a politician.

Nowhere is perfect and you aint seen the last of us yet the revolution is near my friend.

and if all else fails Ive still got my bike (even if theres hardly anywhere to ride over here !)

sorry forgot this is a response to the crack smoking original, but then it would be a shame to stereotype a nation.



:scooter:

mollydog 28 Sep 2008 19:41

I feel for your parents and hope YOU, or someone comes to their aid soon.

pottsy 28 Sep 2008 19:54

Being a Boring British Wanker (at least twice a day...good for the constitution, dear boy), and having spent the summer trolling around Europe i've developed a healthy new-found respect for this beautiful island and (whisper it) the people here - more exploration required. Shocking, eh!
Oh, and as long as this Nanny-state has great Hooters and a penchant for leather then all the better!

stuxtttr 28 Sep 2008 19:56

Just a side note the UK aint all that bad I certainly dont wish that your parents stay cold. My farther in law just died and I think he was well looked after in his final year. Now if my taxes paid a small part in that it can only be a good thing.:scooter:

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 22:21

Still boring
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Warthog (Post 208717)
Well, I'm sorry if a political topic for "debate" like this...



....was not immediately evident from remarks like....



Put simply, comments like your first post just look like a troll or a chip on the shoulder, rather than trying to promote a discussion of reasoned arguements, if that is indeed what you hoped to do.

If all that still labels me as "boring", so be it... but don't now be surprised if you're not taken seriously...

Yep still boring!
Al theturtleshead

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuxtttr (Post 208718)
What a load of old tosh dear boy !

Maybe some sharia law could sort the old place out but lets be fair if you can name a country without dodgy politics then you must be a politician.

Nowhere is perfect and you aint seen the last of us yet the revolution is near my friend.

and if all else fails Ive still got my bike (even if theres hardly anywhere to ride over here !)

sorry forgot this is a response to the crack smoking original, but then it would be a shame to stereotype a nation.



:scooter:

So if you say Britain is full of boring wankers you must be smoking crack eh!
interesting theory!!
Al theturtleshead

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 208719)
Ah ha, another one dependent on the "Nanny State" ? Eh, Al:eek3:
Why are you complaining? You, of all people should know you can't trust govt. to solve YOUR problems, right? :rofl:

Jesus man, in this country the frickin govt. has Nothing to do with heating your house or apt. You are on your own round here mate.

Hey, since you deplore the Nanny State, what are you waiting for? Why don't you do it the American way and HIRE a skilled tradesman to FIX the heating problem? NOW! :confused1: Or go home and fix it yourself. Self reliance? Isn't that what the Neo-Cons preach?

I feel for your parents and hope YOU, or someone comes to their aid soon.
It's 90f here today .... can't imagine cold quite yet.

I did indeed come to their assistance,but they are convinced that after a lifetime of paying taxes and when the state actually said that they would do the work,they,d rather hold on and not waste money.The trouble being is that the state hires the skilled workmen to do the job,then send their guy round to check the work done,he says the jobs so poorly done that it,s unsafe and 9 months later they still ain,t been back to fix it.
So there you go,the worst of both worlds.Yours and the Brits
Al theturtleshead

tommysmithfromleeds 28 Sep 2008 23:22

Despisement of a nation and it's peoples is ugly, I thought that was the whole reason for this website; to be open minded, travel and understand the world we live in, not to judge others and condemn governments, we can leave that to the politicians and warmongers of this world.

albert crutcher 28 Sep 2008 23:38

Hmmm
 
Where does it say anything about despising anyone.I,ve had the misfortune of meeting boring wankers who happen to be from Britain and wondered if everything was now,as it would appear!! be turning to shit!
Al theturtleshead

Dodger 29 Sep 2008 00:07

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albert crutcher 29 Sep 2008 00:32

exellent
 
First bit of sense I heard all day!
Al theturtleshead

Alexlebrit 29 Sep 2008 10:29

I'm guessing if your parents expect the state to fix their heating and have indeed experienced this that they must be in some form of social housing (after all no home owning individual would expect the govt to send a bloke round) In which case I think maybe they've not done badly out of the taxes they've been paying, after all ir's given them heavily subsidised housing.

Mind you, what do I know I moved to France 10 years ago, but that was mainly because I fancied someone over here.

Oh, and if your masturbation is boring, you're doing it wrong.

teflon 29 Sep 2008 15:46

Poor Albert. Travelled all that way to get away from 'boring English wankers' and ends up propping up a foreign bar, complaining about home and putting the world to rights. Rumour has it he tried Spain, but couldn't get a word in.

I'm guessing he had to buy his own bar because it's the only place left that lets him in.:laugh:

teflon 29 Sep 2008 16:00

"If Britons were left to tax themselves, there would be no schools, no hospitals, just a 500-mile-high statue of Diana, Princess of Wales" – Andy Zaltzman

Matt Cartney 29 Sep 2008 17:18

This is the most intelligent and thought provoking thread I have ever seen on the HUBB. No really; it's even better than the "Should I carry a handgun on my holiday to Tijuana?" thread...

Matt :)

teflon 30 Sep 2008 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caminando (Post 209018)
He didnt say "English" - he said "British". If you don't know the difference then go and find out.

You his lawyer? He's a troll - which makes him fair game.

albert crutcher 30 Sep 2008 23:13

Rebel
 
Go somewhere,do something,don,t reinforce the stereotype.
Al theturtleshead


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