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UnderAfricanSky 4 Aug 2007 09:49

Route Through the DRC to Zambia
 
Has anyone got any information on the route heading south through the DRC to Zambia in a 4X4? What are the roads, security like and any way points would also be helpfull.

With the Angolan visa chaos, it would seem that this might be the only option to get through.

LaGriafe 9 Aug 2007 02:30

Hi,

several travellers were reporting that they got 5 days or more transit visa in Matadi at the border to Angola. I would say this option would be easier than travelling through DRC to Zambia.

Anyway, I am in the same situation travelling from north to south and I am also looking for Angolan visa. When do you travel and when will you be there?

UnderAfricanSky 13 Aug 2007 13:37

In Gabon
 
Hi,

I am sitting in Lope National Park, Gabon, at the moment and will be heading to Libreville tomorrow.

LaGriafe 14 Aug 2007 20:13

Ok then you are a bit further than me. I am planning to be in Gabon in about 1.5 month. By the way, how is Lope, is it worth to go there?

Sjakkelian 18 Aug 2007 16:08

Hi there
I can't help you on the route to zambia bit.
I can share my Congo, DRC and Angola experiances.
We travelled in a Landrover 110.
Don't even try to get your Angola visas anywhere else but Matadi.
We were at the Angola consulates in Abuja, Libreville and Point Noire. We didn't even bother in Brazzaville and Kinshassa.
Both Congo and DRC were quite ok as far as safety goes.
A good tip: If you are looking for somewhere nice and safe to stay in Brazza Ask for Hotel?restuarant Hippocampe. I's run by a French guy who has done his share of overlanding on a bicicle. We camped for free in the car park.
Once youve crossed over the Congo river instead of staying at the mission head out on the road to Matadi. After 30 kms you can turn off for Lukaya Chutes. It's a Bonobo ape park where you can camp away from the hussle and bussle of the big cities. From there it's about 5 or 6 hours to Matadi.
We drove through Angola in 60 hours and were there for 8 days on a 5 day transit permit. No troubles leaving Angola what so ever.
Our route from Matadi via Tomboco to Nzeto then via Luanda down the coast to Lobit. Just south of Benguela we took the inland road via Chongoroi to Cacula then to Lubango. From there via Xangongo to the Namib border.

My site is up to date in Dutch but I am way behind on the English translation.

Greetz
Ian

adamiko 20 Aug 2007 10:05

Hallo,

This route is possible. I've done half of it in 2005.
The best way to go is from Kinshasa to Ilebo, and then to Mbuji-m. Kolwezi, and Lobumbashi. 2000Km, of adventure. You are on your own out there, so be prepared. It should take 3,4 weeks to cover this route. Food and fuel can be found, in the markets of major towns.
You need a Special permit that can be bought in Kin. To pass Kassi Oriental, and Occidental provinces. There are some check points around, so ether get this permit, or pay your way thrue.

Good luck!
Adam

matooch 1 Oct 2007 21:33

Hello,

we did the route Kinshasa, Kikwit, Tchikapa, Kananga, Mwene-Ditu, Likasi, Lumumbashi in July 2007. We were driving 4x4, two people, it took us a month. It was a part of trans-Africa. From Mwene-Ditu to Likasi we took a train.

Kinshasa-Kikwit: moreless no problem, only it is difficult to find the correct way

Kikwit-Tchikapa: the worst part, this route is at many places passable by big trucks only, we needed to avoid the "main road", not easy, Louange river has no bridge, boat does not operate in dry season, locals can sail you on canoes (even a 4x4), we got stuck many times.

Tchikapa-Kananga: sand, we did it with a guide on a motorbike, showed us the way avoiding the deepest sand.

Kananga-Mwene-Ditu: no problem

Mwene-Ditu-Likasi: we took a train because we were running of time, but I think it was actually slower and more risky than driving. The road is similar as Tchikapa-Kananga, problematic is only passing of the hills.

Likasi-Lumumbashi: no problem

In mining areas you need to present "seuf conduir" if I spell it correctly, usually requested by "immigration police", which is good to be a friend with.
If you don't have it you must pay after neverending discussions, the highest price they requested in M. Ditu - I think 115 USD or similar for new "immatriculation", which we refused to pay and got in trouble for couple of days.

Another favorite request (road police) was the insurance of the vehicule, they didn't or didn't want to accept ours. Be careful about it.

Bonne chance,

Matus






kiwiron 2 Oct 2007 01:19

drc route
 
hi matus great info on the inland congo route i hope to do a similar route next year by motorbike,what fuel range would you recommend,ok for food on the route? did you need a permit to visit this area? i would have plenty of time,also did you need insurance from the border?thanks ron.:thumbup1:

kiwiron 2 Oct 2007 01:34

drc route
 
adamiko has some of my answers,angola transit visa 5 day can be renewed in luanda and province capitals,check also lonelyplanet.com go to thorn tree for new info.ron

matooch 4 Oct 2007 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwiron (Post 152784)
hi matus great info on the inland congo route i hope to do a similar route next year by motorbike,what fuel range would you recommend,ok for food on the route? did you need a permit to visit this area? i would have plenty of time,also did you need insurance from the border?thanks ron.:thumbup1:

In general it is more likely to pass it by motorbike, you will not need to do so many deviations as with 4x4. Fuel is often only at the black market, more accesible is diesel than petrol. Food you can get in any village, but it would be very simple and it depends on you if you can eat local food all the time. I was appreciating instant soup with local onions, bananas, kasawa bread and pienuts, by rivers dried fish.
The only permit is the mentioned access permit to mining areas, that you can not avoid.
We were not asked for insurance at the border in KNS, but by road police on the way.

Matus

kiwiron 5 Oct 2007 08:58

drc route
 
hei matooch thanks for the info,i'll try and carry as much fuel out of ksa as possible,see how it looks from kinshasa,ron.:cool4:

wicjo 23 Oct 2007 15:24

Want to do DRC-Zambia soon, anyone else?
 
Hi,

I am travelling on a bike, Yamaha Tenere and plan to reach Kinshasa in about 3-4 weeks. Anyone wants to join up forces to try the above route?

Currently I am in Burkina Faso and going to Ghana tomorrow and then Lome, Benin, Niger, Cameroon, etc. Travelling quite fast as plan to finish my journey to Cape Town by end of December.

Anyone else out here at the time?

See you around,
Witek

kiwiron 28 Oct 2007 06:26

drc route
 
I'll be trying that route next july love to hear how you get on,ron.:cool4:

2cvfred 29 Nov 2007 15:58

We are going from Lubumbashi to Kinshasa in April 2008.
Our biggest concern is the permit. Where does one apply for it? What does it take? Price?
Most sources seem to claim that it can only be obtained in Kinshasa... that's a bit bugger for people going the other direction. There must be another way?

Second concern are bridges. Matooch, you seem to talk about just one bridge missing. Is that correct? What did they charge you to get you across?

July must have been pretty wet, no?

We are travelling by 4x4 btw.

2cvfred 11 Mar 2008 11:39

We plan to be in Lubumbashi in a week or two and drive up to Kinshasa.

We still haven't got the permit (hell... we still haven't find out where to apply for it!) nor do we have any recent information besides matooch post.

Does anybody have any contact details of matooch? I tried contacting him but mails bounce.

Any information is welcome though...

2cvfred 12 Mar 2008 13:54

BTW, what's the latest on the ferry at Ilebo? Is it running?

What is the route to take betwen Ilebo and Kikwit?

2cvfred 20 May 2008 15:51

Right we made it. Drove all the way! Took us 45 days.
DRC is a pretty messed up country, that's for sure. Not really a prime tourist destination I can add ;-)

The good news is that we did not have any permits and you don't really need any. We did not pay any bribes whatsoever, but this was very hard work.

The bad news is that you can't really get trough without seriously damaging your car. Our bodywork is completely ruined (picture here: http://radiobaobab.be/assets/etogal/...tkasai2021.jpg ). You are better of on motorbikes. Quite a few stretches see no traffic at all. Most stretches see only bikes (pushbike, no petrol). Few trucks run in the interior. Most corrupt country we have ever been to as well. We never had so many problems just because we are whites...

But if you want to go to a place that even Coca-cola hasn't reached yet... the interior of DRC is you destination!

I've collected loads of information on roads, ferries, availibility of goods, etc... It will take some time to process it though. I will post it here if it is ready.

Pumbaa 21 May 2008 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2cvfred (Post 190372)
Right we made it. Drove all the way! Took us 45 days.
DRC is a pretty messed up country, that's for sure. Not really a prime tourist destination I can add ;-)

The good news is that we did not have any permits and you don't really need any. We did not pay any bribes whatsoever, but this was very hard work.

The bad news is that you can't really get trough without seriously damaging your car. Our bodywork is completely ruined (picture here: http://radiobaobab.be/assets/etogal/...tkasai2021.jpg ). You are better of on motorbikes. Quite a few stretches see no traffic at all. Most stretches see only bikes (pushbike, no petrol). Few trucks run in the interior. Most corrupt country we have ever been to as well. We never had so many problems just because we are whites...

But if you want to go to a place that even Coca-cola hasn't reached yet... the interior of DRC is you destination!

I've collected loads of information on roads, ferries, availibility of goods, etc... It will take some time to process it though. I will post it here if it is ready.

I saw your pic of the damage on the SA lancdcruiser forum. How did it happen.
Up to date info will be very useful - we might venture into the unknown as well next year...

Good luck with fixing it (if you are going to try and have it fixed...)

Ride Far 22 Sep 2008 12:39

I’ve been researching this route from Kinshasa to Lubumbashi in case Angola visas cannot obtained when I get there in early 2009. 2cvfred, thanks for the posts, if you find the time to post more info either at HUBB or another site on roads, ferries, goods availability & etc. that would be great to check out.

Fred, one question on petrol availability. How far between petrol availability at the most?

I assume you carried lots of jerricans on the 4x4. With my Suzuki bike I can go 320 miles / 515 km between fueling. Some more if I carry a jerrican or two. Enough?

I found this backpacker’s report, sounds like he had his share of struggles getting thru as well. Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) » For Mom, Love Steve Anyone else come across any good Web reports?

Thanks all.

JP Gaillard 25 Sep 2008 05:20

I am going to attempt this route from Zambia to DRC as well in my Landy around Jan/Feb. Dates are pretty flexible. I'd like to know if anyone wants to come along. I've been going everywhere alone in my Landy, but that's one leg of the trip I wouldn't mind having a second vehicle along!

Pls email me on jpgaillard@gmail.com

I am also taker of any further detailed route info. I will try to post a proper summary of it once I have completed it here.

2cvfred 25 Sep 2008 09:17

Apologies for not posting back earlier. I really had the intention of writing up a detailed report on routes, roads, ferries, availibility of fuel, etc... I actually have all the data, I just need to process them.

But then came the end of our trip... rolled back into everyday live (yuk) and couldn't find the time. And to be honestly, we are still very impressed (in a not so good way) of what happened in Congo.
I hope to post it anytime soon though.

Anyway, to make a long story short: think twice about going trough Congo. Technical 4x4 driving in the midst of Africa is fun. Just don't forget you are in for at least a month of very hard moving, will you still think that is fun? Do you think tipping your car on its side is fun? You'd better, we had days were we tipped our car over more then 5 times. You get used to the sound of crunching bodywork though ;-)

There is NO spot in the middle where you can relax. You will be confronted with a lot of misery. You are bound to have problem with the people. Problem with the officials is guaranteed. Police/army/etc... are tricky people, they make the Nigerian police look like angles. Damage to a car is impossible to avoid. If you break down, you are in major trouble and you will have to choose between abandoning the car or forking out huge amounts of money to get the logistics aranged.

Trying to avoid rainy season could help ofcourse :-)

When travelling on a bike you will spend a lot of time looking for fuel. I'd say 500km would be the minimum range. There are a few towns where they normally have fuel. It is not unusual to be out of fuel for a few months though. Fuel will be very dirty and very expensive (>2 euro a liter).

Don't plan your range so much in kilometers, but rather in engine running time.
To give you an idea. About 30 days of our time in Congo, we had the engine running at least 12 hours a day(moving... sometimes).

Don't tell I didn't warn you! ;-)

If you still plan to go, feel free to contact me for more information.

JP Gaillard 25 Sep 2008 09:41

Thanks for the response.

I have actually spoken and exchanged emails with the French consulate in Lubumbashi. They claim that the Katanga part of the route (i.e. from Lubumbashi to Ditu Mwene is safe security wise and a good route).

Thereafter he claims the right route is NOT to go through Tchikapa as mentioned initially in the post here but keep going north and follow the railway line. I.e.:
Kanaga -> Mweka -> Ilebo -> Kikwit.
Once in Kikwit the drive to Kinshasa is easy.

cv2fred - could you let me know which stretch of the road you struggled most on re driving / damaging vehicle? if it was mostly on that southern stretch then that would put me at ease...

The other thing he sais is that going through the southern route (Tchikapa) is actually not smart because it gets you too close to diamond country and other nasty areas, and following the railway line is always the right way to go. I have to say that it seem to make sense to me.

anyone has any thoughts on that?

2cvfred 25 Sep 2008 10:10

Tchikapa is indeed a no-go. It is being used by truck drivers. But the ferry there can not take big loads. They usually unload and ship the cargo and the truck seperatly. Big queues, chaos, expensive. At least, that's what I was told. The stretch between Kananga and the ferry is infamous for it's mud.

We went via Ilebo. The road between Kananga and Ilebo is pretty damn bad. No traffic at all. The good thing is that a few ngo's are funding road-works there. No machines, all manual.

You will pass a truck that broke down. When asked how long they have been there they answered little over a year (!!). But they were positive as they just had news from Kinshasa the broken part was ordered in Germany. It would only take a few more months to get going again.

Between Kananga and Ilebo, and between Ilebo and Dibaya-Lubwe is the worst stretch. Most of the time it is not driveable. When a truck needs to pass, they hire a crew of villagers to dig out the road. They average 5km/day. If it wasn't too long ago a truck has passed, you are lucky and can pass as well. If not, you'll have to hire yourself a crew (As a reference: two landcruisers from the mobile company passed before us and they payed 400US$ for a 3 day job). Try to avoid paying at all times! It is fairly common for people to deliberatly destroy the roads so you would have to pay up to free them again.

There are only two ferries to be taken. Both do not have batteries! In Ilebo you might be able to arrange batteries, but the second ferry is in the middle of nowhere, no batteries to be found. They are 24volt, so make sure you have two batteries! We had 74ah starting batteries. That was not enough to start the second ferry. We eventually had to use our auxiliary batteries (115ah) to get the engine going. Our Landcruiser is 24 volt btw.

You need to supply your own diesel for the ferries. I think the Ilebo ferry requires 150liters of diesel (you can buy in Ilebo at about 1,5euro/liter). The second ferry only needed 25 (or 30?) but you wil lhave to bring it yourself.

Second ferry had a bad oil leak. Take some oil.

JP Gaillard 25 Sep 2008 10:35

I found these pictures quite interesting.
Panoramio - Photos by Thomas Tvergaard > Democratic Republic of Congo

None of them look particularly scary though... I think they went through in December (dry). as you point out, I'd not be keen to go through here if it is wet!!!

2cvfred 25 Sep 2008 23:09

Being wet is actually not all that much of a problem. Yes it will be a muddy, but that's why you have a 4x4. But the majority of the tracks are actually sandy, so no drama's.
The big problem is the erosion that a rainy season causes. It just makes huge gullies (sp?) right in the middle of tracks.


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