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Duck 26 Dec 2009 17:01

Route conditions up to Tombouctou/Timbuktu if you want to know…
 
I’ve just travelled solo (23/12/09) up to Tombouctou north from Douentza, about 200km. I based myself at Douentza to make the most of the cool morning, it starts to get hot about 11am, the road from Mopti is undergoing road improvement which means you’ll be on a graded track sections and the ashfelt further north to Douentza has lots of potholes. Oh, there is a hotel with secure parking on the left as you come in and fuel stations in Douentza but would recommend bush camping off the dirt road up to Tombouctou (I arrived too late in the day to make bush camp and the thought of a shower since Senegal sounded needed!).

The first 100km of graded dirt track to the village of Bambara-Maounde, some heavy corrugations and as you get up the track but it’s no worries. No sand to speak of but watch out for those yellow/white patches in the red track as they can be soft sandy holes. The first part of the track has water crossings that can drop off and a steep edge before the cement section crossing the waterbed, there was no water to be seen now. Also watch out for rough parts in the track where the water cut a channel across, I was loaded with a set of knobbles on the back and my suspension came down hard into one and the rebound gave me an interesting ride… I did the route with a road base rubber, Metzeler Enduro3 Sahara’s, no worries. Oh and watch out for the locals in 4x4 doing Mac1 going for Mac2, and don’t hit any of the local donkey trains!!

The other 100km north of Bambara-Maounde is the same as the previous, with more lighter corrugations and more sandy patches. I deflated my tyres for this part later on. This part of the was being improved as I rode up and they were up until the last 50km, dumping and the grader levelling hard fill into the rut sections, I guess they won’t stop until they have finished it all the way. The last 50km was more interesting with locals opting to get off the main route for some sections and creating various side routes which can be more sandy (not deep) but these can be better than the main route as the soft ruts can be all over the place, deep in places and some big sandy holes to give it a hand full of throttle out the other side. Once you first meet to river Niger relax and enjoy the views, I paid 3000CFA for the roll-on roll-off boat to take you across and I recommend some of the local food before leaving these friendly smiley people. It was just around a 4hour route in total not riding like a mad man and was glad I set off in the cool of the morning.

Speaking to a French guy in a 4x4 here about the other route west to Segou, north of the Niger river, it was a couple of years since he did it and didn’t recommend it for the bike as it was very bad, sandy, corrugations... not sure what it is like now but I tended to trust in him more than others I’ve spoken to, he’s travelled these parts a few years. He also said that the parts further away from Tombouctou have got more unpredictable, Tuareg groups having a go at each other with guns and stuff, plus bandits doing the kidnapping in the area then handing you over to Ali Queda. As for the route I did to Tombouctou and around here I’ve no worries and just battling off the local ejjits hassling me.

I’m going to travel the route south I came (see the Dogon country), don’t fancy battling 100’s of kms in the heat solo and possible fuel issues, the lack stops riding west. I was told various stories from locals about the route I done, the last 100kms is very sandy, it’s the Sahara look at the map, bikes can’t pass that way! A other guy wanted me to park the bike at a hotel and he would take me in his 4x4 because I would never make it (sniff sniff...i get a wiff of she’it). Tales of bikers getting recued for big fees. I consider myself to be no expert rider but I’ll give it a go before turning around. It’s very bike doable, well travelled route with no dunes.

This is a complete honest description as of xmas 2009 and haven’t been kidnapped yet. Everybody has a story to tell and a far helping of smelly BS. Ride it, enjoy it.:scooter:

As for Tombouctou, I’ve now got that badge and just need a photo. What else can I say about the dusty place, hmmmmmm… they have cold beers for 1000CFA at the hotel but you can get into the army camp through a small gray side door for a cheap beer!!! AKA, The Star Wars Bar!! Fill your boots!!

Duck :mchappy:
(written more than I though, I must be bored haahaaa)

grizzly7 28 Dec 2009 12:19

Thanks for the update!

Happy travels and good luck :clap:

Tim Cullis 28 Dec 2009 13:34

Please let us know how you get on in the Dogon area, it's somewhere I want to visit next year maybe.

Tim

roamingyak 28 Dec 2009 14:26

Tim,

Dogon is pretty easy - maybe a bit of sand on the tracks at times for bikers, but mostly you can drive over the rocky pistes faster than a vehicle.

I used Tracks for Africa on my gps which worked well in conjunction with the Bradt guide book. It was my 2nd time there (last week), but my friend was really into it so I was made to visit every village, like it or not....

Basically just rock up at any village that takes your fancy, wait around and somebody will come and offer themselves as a guide (finding a nice enough guy who speaks passable English was easy enough) agree a price of around 1,000CFA for a few hours and away you go (sometimes with a 'tax' for the village added on).

There are the usual numbers of aggressive idiots in a few places (Banani, Bandiagra etc), so ignore them etc. Do not take a guide from Bamako, Mopti or Bandiagara etc etc Get one at each village then you are free in between to do what you want.

Amadou from Campment Boabib in Teli for example was a nice guy.

There is a good camping place about 3km from Bandiagara which we used for a few nights (there were other overlanders there) or free camping well away from the villages was also fine.

Food is expensive in the villages, so take as much as you can etc

Hope that helps a little...

Ride Far 28 Dec 2009 15:05

Hey Duck, nice report, thx ~~ let us know how the return ride to Douentza went. Enjoy Dogon, it's all good fun. :thumbup1:

Duck 28 Dec 2009 16:05

Thanks for the report about Dogon Country roamingyak!

There is a music festival here in Timbuktu 7,8,9 and they have moved it closer for security reasons (5-7km from town). Would like to see it but it could turn out a bit pricey staying here that long...

Tim: i'll let you know how i get on also...

Duck 13 Jan 2010 16:49

The route back from Timbuktu was all good, the sandy ruts on the way up on the Timbuktu side had been hard filled and levelled, no worries. Done the route back in under 3hours, still has those corrugations I spoke of before but it’s not that bad to deal with. :scooter:

Tim: Only passed straight down through the Dogon Country (started the route a few kms west of Douentza) and didn’t go to any of the villages, used it as route to get south on the way to Burkina Faso border. I would recommend this as an alternative to get to the border off the main road and it was very nice riding with interesting stuff to look at. I only think, but getting to the villages would be doable (only a guess). Roamingyak advice above would be better to go by. The route down through had a road made from stones cemented down in places (like a cobbled road), a wee bit rough but relax and enjoy the nice views, there has been money spent on it for the tourists I reckon.

Enjoy!

alfonso-the-wanderer 1 Jun 2010 17:56

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For what it's worth: I checked GoogleMaps and the satellite images for the road from Douentza (Duwenza) to Timbuktu (Tombouctou). The road/track is perfectly visible. I downloaded some 50 screenshots and created manually a tracklog over it. Waypoints from some other posting on HU match exactly with this track, so it probably is quite accurate. The road on GoogleMaps is not always matching with the visual track. I attach the tracklog (as a txt file - original was in OziExplorer format) for those interested. [the file contains more tracks in Mali] If someone is interested in the sat images I downloaded, let me know and send by email (but it's a pack of 9 Mb).

gilles27 18 Jun 2010 13:24

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Good report Duck - very accurate.
We did it 2-up on a fully loaded R1100GS in March.
We took 2 days and camped in Bambara-Douentza.
It was tough as with 2 on the bike we couldn't ride quickly but a great experience.
As a matter of interest, we travelled from Tomboctou down to Mopti by pinasse which was fantastic. 8 days in total; 4 pushing the boats off the sandbanks because of low water levels.

First pic taken on road.
Second with bike on boat.

priffe 28 Jun 2010 11:32

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Originally Posted by Duck (Post 271442)
The route back from Timbuktu was all good, the sandy ruts on the way up on the Timbuktu side had been hard filled and levelled, no worries. Done the route back in under 3hours, still has those corrugations I spoke of before but it’s not that bad to deal with.
Enjoy!

Funnily it was the same thing going to the Desert festival 2008. Very bad washboard going there, on the way back they had started working on the road filing the holes makin for a smoother ride. (If the festival was the reason, why not start earlier?)
But coming over a hill there was a really bad hole they neglected, and with the higher speed five 4x4s were destroyed.


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