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itchyfeet38 1 Oct 2016 09:29

I suppose what I was trying to say is that three years on the road taught me that a lot of the time I spent planning (and it was a lot!) wasn't necessarily time well spent. Things change and often fast. Other people's descriptions of the same experience can be wildly different. It is actually really difficult to get hold of reliable facts. So by all means do your planning, just be prepared for things to turn out differently.

Re the Sudanese visa in Nairobi I would very much doubt you'll have an issue with getting a transit visa within 2 or 3 days (unless you are American).I would drop an email to Chris Handschuh at Jungle Junction in Nairobi and check with him, he will have travelers staying there who are doing this every day and will know the current score.

Have you had a look at the Africa overland network? Following current blogs will give you lots of up to date info.

As regards your time, you only have what you have. Just give it as much as you can, you won't regret it. It's nothing to do with what you get to see, more the pressure you put on yourself. So much of the joy of trip like this is about having freedom and when you have tight timescales and deadlines looming it can get pretty stressful.

sweetrolls 1 Oct 2016 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta-rider (Post 548345)
Did you try to ride them offroad as well? I bought the Honda i 2x crossed Africa with for just 700 Euro and im still riding it every day (Honda was able to make liquid cooles bikes 30 Years ago ;-) )

1) Used bikes dont have a big loss of value -> more money left to travel.
2) Old bikes are way easyer to repair in third world countrys
3) Bikes with less nonsense electronics are light weight and better for riding offroad. The real Africa starts were the tarmac ends...

ta-rider,

my bike is 5 years old... it depreciate for sure... it's ok...
I read your accounts on your blog about african trip... not like your bike didn't have bunch of issues ... every bike is prone .. obviously single cylinder bare basics will have less issues than say electronically driven BMW.
I've chatted to people , and of course will take more opinions on, at this point i have a bike already ... getting another would mean something else... i tried Tenere offroad... didn't like it... but i am not averse to trying again.

i'd like to pick a bike that has reasonable speed capacity when 500km needs to be done in short time, can carry some weight, maybe doesn't need to be lubricated many times every week ... i guess that was my motivation for getting GSA

I do understand what you mean now.

My biggest issue by far is time ... i just don't have 6-9 months to spend one-two weeks at places , unfortunately ... :)

just have to figure out how to create more hours in 2+ months :) i guess

thank you once again

sweetrolls 1 Oct 2016 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by itchyfeet38 (Post 548346)
I suppose what I was trying to say is that three years on the road taught me that a lot of the time I spent planning (and it was a lot!) wasn't necessarily time well spent. Things change and often fast. Other people's descriptions of the same experience can be wildly different. It is actually really difficult to get hold of reliable facts. So by all means do your planning, just be prepared for things to turn out differently.

Re the Sudanese visa in Nairobi I would very much doubt you'll have an issue with getting a transit visa within 2 or 3 days (unless you are American).I would drop an email to Chris Handschuh at Jungle Junction in Nairobi and check with him, he will have travelers staying there who are doing this every day and will know the current score.

Have you had a look at the Africa overland network? Following current blogs will give you lots of up to date info.

As regards your time, you only have what you have. Just give it as much as you can, you won't regret it. It's nothing to do with what you get to see, more the pressure you put on yourself. So much of the joy of trip like this is about having freedom and when you have tight timescales and deadlines looming it can get pretty stressful.

Itchyfeet38,

thank you for the advice. i'll email Chris and ask what's the situation on the ground.
I'll try to find africa overland network, just google i suppose :) thanks a lot, that's very helpful.

I'll give as much time as i can and take what i can out of the trip. i might move my departing time to earlier so that i don;t get into too much dodgy weather in europe toward the end of my trip :)

I won't sweat the small stuff... just get some bearings in my head and proceed with adjustments as i go along.

thanks once again

gbags 1 Oct 2016 19:41

I can also recommend Moto Freight from London to Cape Town and their South African counterpart Econo Trans (or Econtrans) in Cape Town. Both are fast, efficient and honest.

sweetrolls 7 Oct 2016 17:49

quick update

going to apply for a second passport in just about 2 weeks, hopefully that goes smoothly and will open some extra possibilities as far as easy of movement across Africa.

Ordered Track4Africa Maps , so that's ready to go.

Bike got new shoes - Heidenau K60 Scouts, might need to change them before leaving... but perhaps just change them for the newer ones before leaving and save what's left for later.

Got Cardo Packtalk.

Picking up new boots and lid in a week.

slowly getting there.

navalarchitect 7 Oct 2016 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetrolls (Post 548743)
quick update

going to apply for a second passport in just about 2 weeks, hopefully that goes smoothly and will open some extra possibilities as far as easy of movement across Africa.

Ordered Track4Africa Maps , so that's ready to go.

Bike got new shoes - Heidenau K60 Scouts, might need to change them before leaving... but perhaps just change them for the newer ones before leaving and save what's left for later.

Got Cardo Packtalk.

Picking up new boots and lid in a week.

slowly getting there.

I used K60s on my KLR. Top tyre for Africa - had them fitted in Cape Town and they lasted the 27,000 km I did to Greece with no dramas. Fairly square at the end but plenty of tread. If you do need to change tyres halfway Jungle Junction, Nairobi, Kenya can organise them for you (no idea at what cost though)

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sweetrolls 8 Oct 2016 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by navalarchitect (Post 548756)
I used K60s on my KLR. Top tyre for Africa - had them fitted in Cape Town and they lasted the 27,000 km I did to Greece with no dramas. Fairly square at the end but plenty of tread. If you do need to change tyres halfway Jungle Junction, Nairobi, Kenya can organise them for you (no idea at what cost though)

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Martin, was thinking of shipping them from CPT on the way in :) that should solve the issue :)

sweetrolls 25 Oct 2016 12:36

Little update

2nd passport sorted
new bike gear sorted - sidi boots, bering jacket, held pants and arai helmet

T4A map arrived and installed.

now just need to start looking into camping gear i guess

do some more offroad riding ... actually planning on taking some courses.

oh, and hopefully Ethiopia is not blowing up any time soon... it would be a shame.

steveT 15 Nov 2016 08:28

Sent you a PM
Im in Cape Town,planning on leaving April 2017
Im on a KTM 990R
Ride up the west coast sand route for practice,after a while its quite easy.

Mate did your route on a LC12,no problems,he is now doing north to south USA

IT all depends on which route you map out and how many main cities you have to go into

What sort of time frame are you looking at?

sweetrolls 15 Nov 2016 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveT (Post 551135)
Sent you a PM
Im in Cape Town,planning on leaving April 2017
Im on a KTM 990R
Ride up the west coast sand route for practice,after a while its quite easy.

Mate did your route on a LC12,no problems,he is now doing north to south USA

IT all depends on which route you map out and how many main cities you have to go into

What sort of time frame are you looking at?

SteveT,

this is awesome. Sent you PM too.

let's try to meet up sometime :)

Noflyzone 28 Nov 2016 11:19

Long Way down From Sudan to Cape Town - August 2017
 
https://www.google.com.sg/maps/dir/S...8685!3e0?hl=en

We are planning to travel by motorcycle BMW R1200GS Adventures from Muscat, Oman to Cape Town, South Africa. Our journey starts on 23rd July 2017 until the end month of August 2017. covering an average 500 Km per day.

our route as follow:
Muscat to Abu Dhabi to Jeddah. then taking a ferry to Suakin Port in Sudan. Then from Suakin Port to Metema (Sudan/ Ethiopia border) - We would like to know the road condition this route.

We heard the road condition northern of Kenya is better now. We don't know how true it is. Any idea?

We will continue and entering to Kenya, Uganda via Malaba border.

then to Rwanda, Tanzania, Zambia, Botswana then South Africa up to last destination "Cape Town"
https://www.google.com.sg/maps/dir/S...8685!3e0?hl=en

Please advise if this route is fine.:welcome:

sweetrolls 25 Dec 2016 08:12

Anyone knows of any further news on crossing from egypt to israel by bike?

Are bikes still not allowed to cross the channel ?

Alternatively , anyone has any clear ideas on going from Port Sudan to Saudi and then transiting it fast to get to Jordan and Israel and onto Europe/turkey .

TIA

sweetrolls 15 Feb 2017 14:04

Short update again :)

got camping gear - tent, sleeping bag, mattress, multi fuel stove, pots, pans, cups and cutlery.

will need to do a 4-5 day shakedown soon here.

Plan is still to leave mid april from Cape Town.

few questions still outstanding

- anyone has any fresh news on Suez and bikes?
- anyone has any fresh news on Sudan to Saudi ferry and then onto Joran/Israel?

lastly, are Sudanese visas still being issues in Adis? ... anyone :)?

thank you all in advance


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