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"List of Doom"
Hey guys,
My dad and I have a week to go now, yippee, before we begin our journey to the equator. Due to our route, I have put this list here and was hoping you could shed a little light on it with any info. specific to these countries. Even though its a week away, we still have time to get a few things, though we doubt any more can fit....any ideas? thanks for your help hay... mike The List of Doom: Clothing:
Camping
Communications
Navigation
Photocopies: 1.2 x Photocopies of International Driving Licence important pages (Laminated) 2.2 x Photocopies of Passport important pages (Laminated) 3.2 x Photocopies of home driving licenses (Laminated) 4.2 x Photocopies of Bike Registration documents (Laminated) 5.2 x Photocopies of motor vehicle license document and disc 6.2 x Photocopies of Vaccine certificates (Laminated) 7.2 x Photocopies of I.D book important pages (Laminated) 8.2 x Photocopies of Bank cards (Laminated) Tools:
Justgiving - Journey to the Equator for "Riders" |
trip tattoo ?
Wow, you maybe started a new hype here...
http://www.petoparis.com/images/stor...ike/tattoo.jpg [Hope you don't have to divers too much from your planned route] |
i hope you make it.......
Have you ever ridden your bikes offr oad with ALL that stuff strapped to them? It seems a LOT of stuff......
I reckon your gonna wish you had left half or most of it behind. The old Backpackers rule applies: every 100 grams carried feels like a Kilo by the end of the day. Im betting thre gonna be a trail of fishing weigts, waffle irons, and tripods (use a rock, or the bike) across Africa! Best wishes though Martyn |
I hope we make it too....
Yeah, it is alot hay....we have actually halved quite a great deal now
though but still have yet to get to the packing part... glad you like the tattoo.... would be nice if we stuck to that route, it being a tattoo for life and everything...(still a bit scary having one) any specific bits of info for the east coast or zambia/angola? thanks mike |
Yeowzis!
I lost concentration after item 89... You really need to seriously reconsider your list guys! Thats just crazy, even half of that is crazy... its going to make your trip a drag man. I hope you scale down and have a blast! Jim |
Dude, reconsider the list even more!
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PLEASE, so you don't have the worst, most miserable ride of your life, trim it down to even less. ( harmonicas and Brai griddles are not essential). then pack it up. Then go ride it off road!!!! HARD! then ride it on road HARD. then go home, chuck away the crap you decide is too heavy and you can do without, then repeat test 1 off road..... You will be thanking me half way across Africa! the conversation will go like this. "Dad..........., pant,........ grunt, :censored::censored::censored: ow,............ grunt,........... you ...................know............... that............ Martynbiker............guy..............off....... ........the..............HUBB?.......grunt, pant,......... pant, ........pant.........:censored:..:censored:....... .:censored:, well......he was right .........about, ........pant, .......pant,... grunt,. the weight!?:rofl: Get it sorted BEFORE you leave Mike:thumbup1: Martyn |
I find myself agreeing YET AGAIN with Martyn, the guy offers really good advice and we do tent to think alike.
I like to pack for every emergency, but tent to keep sending stuff home alot. |
Cheers Dude!
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which is why I feel qualified to offer Mike such strong advice. I can go a couple of weeks on a small holdall sized bag now...:thumbup1: That is why we are all here on the HUBB, to help each other have a better experience, to exchange differing views, experiences and tips that have made our Journeys more pleasant and to advise others on the pitfalls that made our journeys Hell. Maryn |
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I would give my nuts to have done a trip by Bike like that with my Dad,( but he just isn't into Bikes.... sure he feigns Interest now and then...) For Mike this is Special, why else would he have had the Tattoo n everything? I just want him to have it the BEST it can be for him. Martyn |
Body art
If you are intending to have your body tattoo'd as to look like a world atlas, don't forget to have the Rosso (Senegal) border on your anus :rofl:
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Shaved off
Hey Mike
I have had a look at your list mate and have shaved some things off that you don't really need. Remember it's Africa and you can get this stuff along the way if you really need it. Listen to Martyn, he does know what he's talking about. Martyn, you may be able to shave some more off as well? Cheers guys and enjoy your trip, maybe I will see you up in TZ for a coldie. Ivan Clothing: • (Pair of SWAT boots)! • 1 x Pair of Flip Flops √ • 1 x Pair of short socks √ • 1 x Shorts √ • 1 x Long Pants • 3 x T-Shirts √ • 1 x Fleece √ Personal: • 1 x Tooth Brush • 1 x Tooth Paste • 1 x Small pen knife√ • 1 x Harmonica√ • 1 x Towel • 1 x Bar of Soap • 4 x Contact lens pairs (monthly’s) √ • 1 x Contact Lens Case • 1 x Contact Lens Solution • 1 x Glasses√ • 2 x Two Ear Plugs√ • (Small Camera) • • 1 x Tattoo (click here to see our trip tattoo) √ • 1 x Notebook and Pen • 1 x Sunglasses√ • $3500 between two√ • R5000 between two√ • 1 x Head torch • 1 x Waterproof watch√ • 1 x Two Person Tent√ (courtesy of Ram Mountaineering) • 1 x Sleeping Bag√ • 1 x Sleeping Mattress√ (courtesy of Ram Mountaineering) Camping • 1 x MSR Whisperlite Stove • 1 x Cooking Pot Set (small can, big can, frying pan) • 1 x Cutlery Set (knife, fork, spoon, bottle opener, wooden spoon, tongs, egg flipper) • 1 x Scrubbing pad • 1 x Mug • 1 x Plate • 1 x bottle of washing up liquid • 1 x two person mosquito net Food: • Salt & Pepper • Oats • Oil • Rice • Suagr • Tea & coffee • Cremora Medical/First Aid Kit: • Syringes x 4 • I.V drip set • Bandages Assorted – cravats, ace bandage • Gauze Assorted – 4x4’s, 2x 4’s • Wound cleaner • Mercurochrome • Triangle bandage x 2 • Plasters assorted • Quadriderm cream • Eye drops • Antihistamine tablets • Diarahhero Tablets • Nausea tablets • Pain tablets-mybulin • Cortisone Tablets • Antibiotics • Anti-malaria – Coartem • Malaria Test Kit x 2 • Sutures • Local anesthetic kit • Pethedine amps • Tramal amps • Dormicum amps • Anti-Inflammatory tablets • Cold sore ointment • Elastoplast plaster • Rehydrate • Tabard • Sunscreen lotion • Space blanket • Water purification tablets • Gloves x 4 • Micropal/Clear tape • Safety pins Fishing • 1 x small fishing reel and some hooks! Communications • 1 x Cell Phone (free roaming enabled) • 1 x Cell Phone Charger and extension • 1 x USB Flash drive stick Biking • 2 x Kawasaki KLR 650 Motorcycle • 2 x Helmet • 2 x Ricah Enduro Jacket • 2 x Riding Pants • 2 x Riding Goggles • 2 x Ricah Gloves • 2 x Riding Boots • 2 x Riding Socks • 2 x Hydra-Pak Big Sur Hydration System (courtesy of Hydrapak) • 2 x Oxford Sports Tank Bag • 2 x Trip Sticker • 2 x Oxford Titan Disc locks (thanks to DMD) Bike Spares: • Plugs x 2 • Brake Pads x 1 set • 1 x Front tube • 1 x Back tube • Pull//Push cable accelerator • Wheel Bearing x 1 set (back and front) • Clutch and Brake lever • Mounting bracket for back brake • Gear lever x 1 • Nuts and bolts • Master links x 4 • Electrical Wire • Insulation Tape • Duck tape • Wire connectors • Fuses • 2 x Spare keys Navigation • 1 x Map Studio Africa Road Atlas • 1 x Garmin GPS and spare AA batteries Paperwork/Documents • 2 x South African Passports • 2 x Home country driving licences • 2 x International Driving licences • 2 x Vaccine Cards with relevant certificates • 2 x Bank cards • 2 x I.D books • 5 x Spare passport photos Photocopies: 1.2 x Photocopies of International Driving Licence important pages (Laminated) 2.2 x Photocopies of Passport important pages (Laminated) 3.2 x Photocopies of home driving licenses (Laminated) 4.2 x Photocopies of Bike Registration documents (Laminated) 5.2 x Photocopies of motor vehicle license document and disc 6.2 x Photocopies of Vaccine certificates (Laminated) 7.2 x Photocopies of I.D book important pages (Laminated) 8.2 x Photocopies of Bank cards (Laminated) Tools: • Spanners – 8, 10, 12, 13, 14,17 • Wheel spanners – front and back • Allen Keys – assorted • T-bar and sockets- 6,8,10 • Screwdrivers- star and flat • Shifting spanner • Spoke spanner • Pliers • Wire • Zip ties • Tyre levers • 1 x Oxford Pen Air Pressure Gauge (thanks to DMD) |
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Trimmed! Martyn |
Doohickey Upgrade!
Because I have now received 3 PM's asking what a Doohickey Upgrade is :rofl: My we have all gone shy havent we?
here it is........ Basically its the Idler shaft.. KLR ones are made from chocolate you see...... Mark's KLR650 Website - Doohickey Upgrade (Idler Shaft Lever) |
its getting cut down...a little...
hey guys, thanks for all the info...
Martyn- mate thanks for the great advice and not letting me learn the hard way...i mst admit halve of the stuff on the list has now been cut down a great deal... "Then go ride it off road!!!! HARD! then ride it on road HARD. then go home, chuck away the crap you decide is too heavy and you can do without, then repeat test 1 off road....." ummm...did i mention Martyn that we leave next wednesday and still havent even packed once yet? Dingo -1 x Harmonica√ learn to whistle .... im afriad i cant leave this one behind...been with me all the way so far...is such a great joy for so little... -1 x Tattoo (click here to see our trip tattoo) √NOT before a trip, you dont want infection ...im afriad this one is in the past....lets hope for no infections hay :confused1: -$3500 between two√ you gonna BUY africa? R5000 between two√ see above....yeah we werent too sure on this but im guessing by this that we should be good for now...its 90 days of travelling.... the doohickey has been dealt with accordingly...and so have over 50 other different modifications....:( thanks for all the help and keep it coming :clap: mike |
it fits....just....
here is all our gear and bikes which somehow has fitted....
im not to sure how but it has....just need to ride them now... cheers mike |
Leatt Neck Braces
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Some feedback on the neck braces would be great. I'd like to know how comfortable they are for extended use; especially in hot weather. Have a great trip. Stephan PS Which brace model are you wearing? |
Tadah!!
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Mike! hells bells dude........ lol
Mike, is that the "Trimmed Down " List on your Bikes then?
if it is, I have visions of ALL that stuuf on ONE bike being the original load.... Martyn. PS, I still think your gonna regret taking half of that stuff with you. that jar of bolts alone must weigh close on a Kilo! keep us posted :thumbup1: |
That is still a massive list... I wish I could work out what we're going to take to russia - but frankly the way it's going I think I'll end up with just a spare pair of pants and a beer can in case I forget the side stand puck.
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cool......
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Cool Video by the way, and yes, I would buy the pump, that damn bag would drive me nuts! Martyn |
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it all fits...thank goodness!!
ok, so last night i went for a quick test ride....
we have narrowed the list a little...but not alot! "Cool looking bikes, Mike. Some feedback on the neck braces would be great. I'd like to know how comfortable they are for extended use; especially in hot weather. Have a great trip. Stephan PS Which brace model are you wearing?" Stephano - we are both riding "Club" braces from Leatt...i put it over my riding jacket with my hydrpak over it and it all felt very nice and comfortable last ride i had...like it wasnt even on me...very enjoyable for the extra safety.... Tadah!! Here it is the ultimate in lightweight gear...... Yes, it's the Titanium Guitar.. Alexbrit- ummm ok the latest addition is going to make you laugh....i bought a guitar today and it is somehow coming along with-strapped to the back...dont ask me how,why,where...but its coming....:thumbup1: Mike, is that the "Trimmed Down " List on your Bikes then? if it is, I have visions of ALL that stuuf on ONE bike being the original load.... Martyn. Hey martyn- yeah its split between the two of us...i have all the comms though so my bike is the fragile one! eek! thanks for all your advice again mate! Spoke to a mate today who says the rainy season in Mozambique has just begun and her wife has just had malaria for the fifth time (they work there for half a year at a time) but they say it is an ace place...very excited now!! i'll post a final pic with the guitar and all attached before we leave be sure to check us out daily if you can! thanks mike |
can we run a pool Mike?
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Best wishes Dudes.... (your gonna need it! with all that gear....) Martyn |
Do me 50 points for a ditched guitar before day 15 please :rofl:
Enjoy the trip but why did you copy the packing list from Ewan and Charlie? Read trip reports ASAP from Chris Scotts Adventure motorcycling website and see how many people advise TRAVEL LIGHT. Now why do people ask for advice then ignore it, it's beyond me, you probably had reservations about your list or you would not have thought to publish it. One thing I deff would have kept...the harmonica, I have one but can't play the bloody thing :helpsmilie: |
The post office is your friend ... as you travel you'll find stuff you don't need .. either give it away or send it home. If you think you'll need it in say 2 weeks time .. post it to yourself about 1 week onwards .. and pick it up there .. saving carrying it, or throwing it away and buying another one later.
A word on the nuts and bolts .. common ones can be bought along teh way .. teh unusual ones may be made at a local machine shop .. the ones you need are those that prevent forward (or even reverse) progress... those are the ones to carry. |
Omg!!
Hey there,
You still can't be serious? Trash at least half of it for your own sakes. You are going to ride Africa so you don't need any comforts, get them when you get back. You will appreciate them even more when you return. Don't forget what happened when you first rode in sand, mud, bog? And this you did without any additional weight on the bike, remember? And don't forget to think about the bike, I failed my suspension carrying approx 50 - 60 kg in Kenya. Now I don't take anymore than 30 kg with me (Max). It's Africa, you don't need all that gear and if you do get a local to make it for you. Anyway good luck to you guys. I am near Tarime in TZ if you come through this way, I will buy you a beer. Cheers Ivan |
some have to learn by their own mistakes!
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This is one time you cant put a "wise head on stupid shoulders" there is gonna be a trail of stuff scattered across Africa that some local Guy is gonna be very grateful for.... although what an African is gonna use a neck brace for i cant imagine! ( they look a little 'hot around the collar' to me), I don't think Mike and his Dad have really thought this one out too well, I WISH THEM BOTH ALL THE BEST and would give anything to have done a trip like that with my Dad, but I hope for the both of them, they listen to SOMEONE before they finally go and just DUMP HALF THAT GEAR! Martyn |
Good luck guys - actually looking at that photograph above there isn't that much stuff - it's just spread out isn't it! :innocent:
You guys will be just fine - part of the adventure is getting there and discovering whilst you do have your guitar you have in fact forgotten the side stand puck (cough). Is it an expensive guitar? Is it a travel guitar? If it's cheap and not a travel effort I give it 4 days! :rofl: If I took any kind of musical instrument to Russia I'm sure Stace and Patrick would make sure it went 'missing' in the first 4 days. m |
roflmao!
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I fixed the above to make it read correctly Matt! :thumbup1: :rofl: Tadah!! Here it is the ultimate in lightweight gear...... Yes, it's the Titanium Guitar.. Remember the above posted by Mike? well if it Titanium, its not cheap, but its metal so he can still stamp on it, fold it in half and use it as a side-stand puck! :rofl: Martyn |
In our "Achievable Dream" DVD and lecture we give on how to ride around the world we tell people that the number one phrase that we get from people on the road is:
"We just sent another box of shit we thought we needed home" Everyone does it, we've even done it ourselves. Tip - after two weeks, remove the top layer of stuff you're using in the saddlebags and send the bottom layer home. Tip before you leave - look at everything, and if you're not really using it daily, leave it. (Except medical - and that you can probably cut way down to crash meds only - there are stores out there for the rest.) Understand the difference between WANTS and NEEDS. You WANT all the toys and fun stuff, but you don't NEED it. Have a great trip whatever you take!:D |
but that requires faith Grant!
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The simple way is always the best way. Travel Light, the less 'Stuff' you have to worry about the more you can enjoy your Journey. Look at Ray Mears, a Rucksack, Tarp, hammock, Knife, little else...... Light...... is Right. Martyn P.S. Does the fact your a Moderator stop you having a bet on the fate of the Guitar then?:innocent: |
For a year in Africa I had this (beside a tent and a sleepingbag):
http://www.actiontouring.com/pic/alt.jpg |
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Wow!
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How the Hell did you carry that Log?????? :rofl: Hope your reading this Mike, this is for a YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not 3 MONTHS! Martyn |
ahhh bugger....
hahahah man, how much this has made me laugh...
thank you guys for all your kind/funny words of wisdom... i know that you guys are going to be right, that i will no doubt throw half this stuff away but i have to still give it a go..dont I ? isnt that what learning the hard way is all about...heck its been like that the whole way for me...learning to ride, fix bikes, build websites all in 3 and a bit months...im not going to stop learning the hard way now... well, its off to bed now for an early start tommorrow morn for the adventure of a lifetime.. lets hope the guitar keeps itself tuned and the neck brace keeps my neck on my head :thumbup1: thanks for all the help, advice and laughs!!! mike |
Glad you got a sense of humour about it!
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maybe your old man can give me some 'inside' info on what your patience levels are like? Best wishes! Bon Voyage! Have a Blast, Dudes! :mchappy::mchappy: Martyn |
all the way dude...
its going all the way...ill bring it back in pieces if i have to...
no, really i dont know...im not a betting man but i hope it makes it all the way...would be great to jam with some locals along the way... thanks again martyn chow |
Video!
Mike, you gotta do a song for the Video on your site!
although I haven't seen any Videos yet..... You could call it, considering the amount your carrying " The STRONG way round!" :thumbup1: Bon Voyage Martyn |
Mike, you are half way there with having a sense of humour! If you lose anything don't lose that:thumbup1:
Can you get a drum kit on as well...anywhere? Your trip song could then be the old McCartney/wings song 'Band on the run' although Martynbiker and I know a fellow hubber that may like to join you(in a sidecar?) He was 4 days a little banned:rofl: but thats an infraction inducing story...sorry uzi. Have a great trip you deserve it.........:clap::clap::clap: |
oh boy oh boy.....
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we're alive...
hey guys,
hahah man the comments are awesome...dont worry as soon as we get the video cam we are waiting on then a song will be the first video for you chaps!! the guitar is still on board and in once piece.... martyn- thanks for the email and for the laughs again.. new photos and our daily blog has just been all updated and running so you guys can check it out... cheers from Vryheid in KZN (south africa) mike |
Guitar on a bike.......You make joke!
Mike,
Mmmm, you do sound like a Kaburu mate. I hope your trip goes well and you get to enjoy it. Still can't see why you asked the question about luggage though if your not going to listen to any advice from people who have done it? This thread has been good for me though, I have learnt what not to try and carry with me and have already got rid of "stuff" that I am carrying. Thanks for the advice guys I have learnt a lot as well as getting rid of my hard luggage! Cheers. |
Made it!
Hey guys,
Well, after 20,000km and 85 days on the road...we have made it home... And with my guitar in one piece!!! hahahah and the harmonica made it too!! heheh And you were all right...we ended up sending back two boxes full of stuff...so yes you were right and we were wrong...BUT...i now know for next time... I hope you managed to catch a few stories or photos from our trip through South Africa, Mozambique, Tanzania, Uganda, Malawi, Zambia, Namaibia and back home... Anyway, thanks for the laughs and advice... Now to just plan a west coast trip with the mother...hmmm somehow think this might take a little harder work... mike |
Would be interesting to know
....have you got a list of what you sent home? Would be interesting to all comers to this thread I think
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Concerning spanners - may I suggest box spanners cut in half? There's no need to take sizes you don't need - a 9mm with an 8mm, an 11mm with the 10mm, etc. For the price, they're practically disposable. New holes can be drilled to take the bars, or even a screw driver - though I would suggest using the bars. Just check there's enough headroom and turning space on ALL fixings to get to the next 'flat' if space is tight. They'll be 'custom-made' for your bike and less than half the weight of ring spanners. It's just a thought.
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Have to do that myself .. note to self - photo of gear going out - unpacked on floor .. and another one when returned - unpacked and unwashed on floor .. to resembel 1st photo. Could be a good calander photo sequence? err and anotehset of phots showing teh packed bike .. both outwards and inwards bound. ----------------------------- Teflon - A note on the box spanners - I don't find them as strong as the ring spanners. |
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on it soon
hey guys,
yeah will make a list of what we sent back etc.. with some pics... the waves are pumping here so need to tend to the most important things first hay :) |
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