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Erik_G 20 Dec 2023 15:01

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Originally Posted by maomao (Post 639600)
Thanks everybody for the incredible info! Do you think it is worth bringing a tent for camping? I've done camping on a previous long term bike trip in Africa so I wouldn't mind it at all. Though i'm not sure if it would be too windy during this time of the year in the Patagonia.

Absolutely yes. If you like camping.
I Used my tent from that I passed Osorno in Chlle on the way south.
Until I came to north of Argentina.
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I did not go all the way to Ushuaia, over the open and windy area.
But if some places does not fit camping, rent a room.

Carretera Austral area is green and with mountatins. Nice area for camping.


Edit:
During peak season regarding Carretera Austral = Jan-Feb. Hotels fills up. Than it is ggod to have a tent.
It isnot so easy to book far in advance at a MC trip. Where you may be dealyed by weather or...

Camping in Argentina is very common. Families/groups to to the camping sites over the weekands. To do BBQ.

Picture one: From camping outside Villa Cerro Castillo. Along Carretera Austral, Can it be better ? Preparing you morning coffee with that view

Picture two: Watching World Cup in football. Together with Argentinians on a camping site. Would never happen in a hotel.

jamwil 20 Dec 2023 17:31

Some great info in this thread. Thanks Erik and Steve!

Plodding 24 Dec 2023 14:51

Thanks to all the contributors to this thread. I'm in Mendoza right now and will be heading south to Bariloche after Christmas and then the Carretera Austral. This info is really useful.

mojos 20 Jan 2024 00:08

A route I would recommend for southern Pagagonia which is a circular trip. Start from from Puerto Mont, the start of the Austral, (routa 7) to O Higgins. A large part of the Austral is now paved and is slowly being paved. Then retrace your steps to the ferry at Caleta Yungay (which you have to do).
From there take the magical ferry throught the islands and fjords to Puerta Natales. It takes about 48 hours. Meals and drinks are included in the price. Take snacks if you are a grazer. The whole trip is a stunningly beautiful journey which in some ways is better than the Austral for panoramic landscapes. I would recommend booking a seat on the ferry as there are no berths.
From Natales you can zip down to Ushuaia. Then you have options of either returning north via the carretera 40 or the coast road.
You can of course reverse the route or tweak it to suit yourself.

matteoPL 14 May 2025 19:18

Hi friends, I am currently planning to go to Patagonia in next season. Now I see it is quite a logistics challenge. I need your advice. I would love to start at Puerto Montt and get a car rental there. Then my basic question is: Can we rent a car in Puerto Montt and drive all the way down to Ushuaia and then leave the car in Punta Arenas and there get an airplane to go back by flight?

By driving down I would have to visit both Chilean and Argentinas sides:

- Villarica
- Bariloche
- all the way down to El Chalten, El Calafate
- Ushuaia
- Punta Arenas => leave the car here

This is very basic question - literally everything depends on this. Otherwise it gets pretty tricky to transfer between places there. Do you know if it is the way others do it and Car Rentals offer such option?

Flipflop 15 May 2025 17:15

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Originally Posted by mojos (Post 640142)
A route I would recommend for southern Pagagonia which is a circular trip. Start from from Puerto Mont, the start of the Austral, (routa 7) to O Higgins. A large part of the Austral is now paved and is slowly being paved. Then retrace your steps to the ferry at Caleta Yungay (which you have to do).
From there take the magical ferry throught the islands and fjords to Puerta Natales. It takes about 48 hours. Meals and drinks are included in the price. Take snacks if you are a grazer. The whole trip is a stunningly beautiful journey which in some ways is better than the Austral for panoramic landscapes. I would recommend booking a seat on the ferry as there are no berths.
From Natales you can zip down to Ushuaia. Then you have options of either returning north via the carretera 40 or the coast road.
You can of course reverse the route or tweak it to suit yourself.

I don’t think this ferry takes vehicles anymore - it didn’t 2 years ago.

Surfy 15 May 2025 21:12

Damn, it’s hard to make route suggestions for that area—because you never really know what you might have missed.

Here's my map:
https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...tina-chile.JPG

I haven’t seen any travel reports, videos, or reels that made me feel like I missed something essential in Patagonia. I flew to Ushuaia and booked off-road trips there, mainly to skip the section that is often described as “boring” and to save time.

I got lucky with some annual town festivals along Ruta 40, which I hadn’t planned for but were amazing experiences.

There’s also an adventure waiting at O’Higgins—even if you can’t cross:
https://vanlife.4x4tripping.com/2021...argentina.html

As for the Antarctic cruise—I didn’t do it yet. I plan to go in about 10 years with my wife and kids. It’s more of a once-in-a-lifetime experience, and not many solo travelers go there anyway.

My travel diary is still online, also if it is 10 years old: https://adventure-overland.blogspot.com/

https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...re-krabben.jpg

I do still remember that taste of this king crab!

Did one of my best ever fotos down at ushuaia:

https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...aus-am-see.jpg

Not my skill, it is that beautiful!

Surfy

gatogato 27 May 2025 23:51

I think it is better to take a flight down to Patagonia and stay in Ushuaia a week in a hostel or hotel. Than you could take buses or hitchhike to get back. The Perito Moreno Glacier and El Calafate are worth checking out. Than go to the Cattera Austral and work your way back that way.

The Northern half of Argentina is worth checking out on a motorcycle. Going South of Bariloche in Argentina is where Argentina stops being interesting until you reach the last 300 kms to the tip of South America which is Patagonia.

Chile has more interesting/ beautiful places in the Southern half of Chile, but is it worth riding all that way on a motorcycle and racking up a bunch of expenses just so you can say you rode the whole thing to your buddies?

The weather in the Southern half of Argentina sucks, and the scenery also sucks for like 95% of it. For me, it was the equivalent to riding across Wyoming 3 times in a row, but it is worse than Wyoming because it is not just wind that you have to deal with. You have to deal with rain most of the time. For maybe 70% of motorcycle riders the weather in the Southern half of Argentina sucks most of the time. There is a reason why sailing around Cape Horn was so dangerous for sailors. They named the tip of South America: Tierra del Fuego which translates to "Land of fire." The weather in the Southern half of Argentina sucks donkey balls and so does the 95% of the scenery. Way better to just fly or take the bus there, than pay $7 gas and risk a break down where it will take a lot of time and money to get it fixed.

manzini 29 May 2025 16:55

you could rent a car and take it from puerto montt by ferry to puerto natales and drive it back to puerto montt ,otherwise they charge you a lot.


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