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Originally Posted by Dan 23 (Post 193685)

I think you've deliberately missed the point of both quotes, Walking One. And I've definitely missed yours - I haven't got a clue what you're trying to say here - or why.

That's fair enough, but I think Kentfallen thought the same of your posts to him, Writing One, about post-colonial views on the competence of African people. Even if you were right.

The first piece is initially attractive, and makes a very powerful, concise and articulate case for abandoning everything and just going. The more stretched the better. However, I think there is a note of love of hardship, reminiscent of Opus Dei, which I find self flagellating. His utter certainty that this is the way, I find pompous.

The second piece seems to suggest the opposite.

So I'm guilty as charged of quoting two views, and for daring to criticise the first in a reasoned way. It seems that no one can discuss the case for the first, but simply descend into frothing rage because someone has another view.

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Originally Posted by Caminando (Post 193521)

In contrast to this self flagellating and pompous piece above, Ted Simon, in "Dreamng of Jupiter" writes that...

"people who do gamble [with life] can't really be very lucky. All that frenzy of "fun" and throwing caution to the winds, to my eyes, is a thin disguise for a kind of despair, for lives out of control, for people desperate to change their lives."

I haven't read his book, so it's impossible to know if he's being sympathetic or a little harsh towards his fellow human beings. Either way, to understand this statement suggests at least a brief personal experience of the feelings he describes. Me? Hope to cross Russia in a £60 car. I have no idea why.

Sad thread.:(

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Originally Posted by teflon (Post 193779)

Teflon
You will have great time in Russia in your car, which wont break the bank.Best wishes ....have fun.

You're spot on when you wont comment as you havent read the book. That's what reasonable people do, keeping it real.

Good roads

Caminando,

Good response to Teflon. We all need to speak only of what we REALLY KNOW, and as you say: "Keep it real". Weeks back there was a thread about being kidnapped while on a ride in the wilds of SA. The responses were piled so high and deep from people (dare I say: "IDIOTS") who were brimming with suggestions, yet had never even spoken with someone who had been through that. I tried over and over to bring the discussion to a REAL kidnap situation and called out for anyone with REAL experience to speak...

Amazing !! They just kept on with their endless advice to others from the bottom of their lack of experience!!! :eek3:

I thought this was a thread on taking a tent or not. Bloody hell the Hubb has a lot of ego's on it (as I found out with the few post I've added). It's really starting to get off putting. It's worse than a backpackers sometimes where you have to listen to all this crap about who is the real hardcore traveller.