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charapashanperu 20 Aug 2013 17:27

Problems at Peru/Chile border for tourists on Peruvian or Chilean bikes
 
I have just heard that foreign tourists cannot cross the Peru/Chile border on motorcycles with original documents from either Peru or Chile! :nono:

Does anyone have specifics on this?? doh

s445203 21 Aug 2013 11:04

I've never tried it so can't comment too much. But there's a chap on here BruceP who tried to cross from Chile into Peru on a Chilean plated bike which wasn't registered in his name, but had a power of attorney from the owner saying he was allowed to ride it. He wasn't allowed to pass. I wonder if that's the source of what you're hearing? No idea if it would apply to a bike registered in your name.

xfiltrate 21 Aug 2013 13:13

Crossing Chile/Peru Border
 
It could be true that foreign tourists who have purchased legally registered motorcycles in either Chile or Peru cannot cross the border between Chile and Peru.

Many others have posted under threads entitled Buying in Chile etc and there is a wealth of information and misinformation on this topic available. It would be good to see some actual documentation.

Comparison with Argentina.

I know for a fact that while legal for a foreign tourist to purchase an Argentine registered motorcycle in Argentina it is illegal for that tourist and cross any border of Argentina with that motorcycle.

Argentines can cross Argentine borders with their Argentine registered motorcycles and permanent foreign residents of Argentina can also cross Argentine borders with their Argentine registered motorcycles, but I can document many cases of foreign tourists having purchased an Argentine registered motorcycle in Argentina not being permitted to cross out of Argentina.

A foreign tourist returning to Argentina on an Argentine registered motorcycle usually rates little more than a bug eyed stare from customs officials.

xfiltrate eat, drink pisco sours or perhaps Malbec and be careful

charapashanperu 21 Aug 2013 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by xfiltrate (Post 433599)
It could be true that foreign tourists who have purchased legally registered motorcycles in either Chile or Peru cannot cross the border between Chile and Peru.

Many others have posted under threads entitled Buying in Chile etc and there is a wealth of information and misinformation on this topic available. It would be good to see some actually documentation.

Comparison with Argentina.

I know for a fact that while legal for a foreign tourist to purchase an Argentine registered motorcycle in Argentina it is illegal for that tourist and cross any border of Argentina with that motorcycle.

Argentines can cross Argentine borders with their Argentine registered motorcycles and permanent foreign residents of Argentina can also cross Argentine borders with their Argentine registered motorcycles, but I can document many cases of foreign tourists having purchased an Argentine registered motorcycle in Argentina not being permitted to cross out of Argentina.

A foreign tourist returning to Argentina on an Argentine registered motorcycle usually rates little more than a bug eyed stare form customs officials.

xfiltrate eat, drink pisco sours or perhaps Malbec and be careful

Seems to be similar to what is going on with Peru/Chile. Yet this is something recent as another moto tour agency from Peru had to cancel their Dakar tour.

kito 26 Aug 2013 17:57

Don't know if its quite the same but a friend of mine got a new xr125 in chile in his name crossed into Bolivia then we ridden together across the border into Peru. He then ridden to Lima and just left the bike at the airport and took a flight home. It took him maybe 10-15 min longer for him to do his paperwork but the was never a problem

nelik 5 Sep 2013 04:06

Hi,

I'm riding a bike registered in Chile to a friend of mine since two months through Chile, Bolivia, Peru', Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil

I'm travelling with:
- motorbike documents registered in name of my friend (Chile)
- power of attorney made at a notary
- the same as above, but stamped by Justice and Foreign Affairs ministers of Chile and authenticated by Peruvian consulate in Santiago

I was asked for:
- Bolivia: power of attorney
- Peru': authenticad POA
- Ecuador: POA
- Colombia: nothing (I think they didn't noticed it was registered to a different person)
- Venezuela: the same as above
- Brazil: nothing (no documents are needed anymore)

hope this will help,

ciao,

Fabio

charapashanperu 9 Sep 2013 03:21

Fabio,

It may make a big difference if you are from South America.

ta-rider 9 Sep 2013 05:58

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Originally Posted by s445203 (Post 433585)
I've never tried it so can't comment too much. But there's a chap on here BruceP who tried to cross from Chile into Peru on a Chilean plated bike which wasn't registered in his name, but had a power of attorney from the owner saying he was allowed to ride it. He wasn't allowed to pass. I wonder if that's the source of what you're hearing? No idea if it would apply to a bike registered in your name.

I had the same problem but solved it with a 10 dollars note "pa tu mujer"

Advent&# xff55;re motorbike trip around Latin America - Chile and Argentina

El Forko 11 Sep 2013 20:19

My Israeli buddy has just flogged his Chilean-registered Euromot (bought new in Santiago) in Colombia (illegally of course) having ridden up through Bolivia, Peru and Ecuador. He had no probs at the borders - but he came through Bolivia into Peru.

Also met an Aussie in Cusco who had bought a second hand car in Chile and driven it north.

Can't say you can cross the Chile / Peru border, but you can clearly get through Bolivia - and this is a much more enjoyable route north.

Cheers

charapashanperu 12 Sep 2013 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Forko (Post 436295)
My Israeli buddy has just flogged his Chilean-registered Euromot (bought new in Santiago) in Colombia (illegally of course) having ridden up through Bolivia, Peru and Ecuador. He had no probs at the borders - but he came through Bolivia into Peru.

Also met an Aussie in Cusco who had bought a second hand car in Chile and driven it north.

Can't say you can cross the Chile / Peru border, but you can clearly get through Bolivia - and this is a much more enjoyable route north.

Cheers

THX Forko. The Peru/Bolivia crossing seems to be the best with a little $$ and all is forgotten! :oops2:

Traplina 1 Oct 2013 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by charapashanperu (Post 433475)
I have just heard that foreign tourists cannot cross the Peru/Chile border on motorcycles with original documents from either Peru or Chile! :nono:

Does anyone have specifics on this?? doh

I crossed this border, from Peru to Chile on february 2013, with a peruvian motorcycle, bought in Lima with my french tourist visa. No problem, all free, an hour to cross (from Tacna to Arica).

A little problem on the road back to Lima, at the border from Bolivia to Peru (Desaguadero). It seems it's impossible to enter in Peru in an other point you live, so I had to go back in Chile to cross the border at the same point at Arica (april 2013)....

Sorry for my poor english !

Evergreen 3 Oct 2013 12:44

The Desaguadero border between Peru and Bolivia seems to be the most nightmarish.

I have bought my bike in Peru, and when I got to the border I was told I cannot cross since the bike is Peruvian. After much chaotic running around between border police officers and customs agencies, I finally found out i CAN cross, but need to get a certificate from the public registry and another one from the transit police. the former was only available in LIMA!!!, and the latter in Puno. luckily, my Puno hostel´s owner had some contacts in Lima so he helped me out and they faxed me the certificate within a couple of days (cost nothing); then the transit police issued the other doc (cost round 120 soles) within an hour; then i had to get back to Desaguadero and present these papers to one of the customs agencies (agencias aduanas); i was charged USD 230 for all the paperwork they did for the bike and could finally legally leave Peru.

I am not quite sure about other borders, but getting OUT of Peru into Bolivia on a Peruvian motorcycle....never again!!!:)

Just to be clear I am Lithuanian (EU), and the bike´s registered in my name.

Had no problems crosssing from Bolivia to Argentina (even though I actually lost my license plate on the Uyuni-Tupiza road :D )

zaplaje 7 Oct 2013 23:18

Im from Chile and I helped a guy from Ohio buying a Bike here in Santiago. The Bike was registered in my name and I did a notarial paper allowing him to use the Bike as he want, and cross borders too. When he was crossing from Chile to Perú By Arica, the peruvians didn't allow him to enter, it's a peruvian side problem, not chilean. The peruvians sayed that they have an agreement in that border to allow to cross just chileans driving into Perú. I never hearded that before, but this guy went to the peruvian consulate in Arica and spoke with the consul. He (the consul) called me to my cell phone asking me stupid questions like if the Bike was really mine and if it was true that I give the permission to leave the country in "my" motorcycle and I said yes, and the consul said "ok, just for this time he can cross to Perú"

It looks like it's a new stupid rule that they have now

BruceP 8 Oct 2013 10:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by charapashanperu (Post 436366)
THX Forko. The Peru/Bolivia crossing seems to be the best with a little $$ and all is forgotten! :oops2:

Cases differ, money does not always work.

The key thing is if the bike and all paper work is in your name. This is where we came unstuck last December. The bike was bought in Chile and we rode through Argentina and Bolivia on a Notary letter.

Peru has clamped down on stolen bikes entering. If you get a good customs guard you get stuck in nomans land like we did.

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Matt wilson 27 Oct 2013 00:18

I had exactly the same experience at that border. bought a new bike in Peru and was told i had ALL the papers requirede but when I got to the Peru Bolivia border was told exactly the same...didnt have the
at bit of paper and only available in Lima. I also had to go back to Puno and go to the transport office there but they still couldnt give me the doc they wanted at the border as all these docs are localised- ie you have to get it where you bopught the bike. Eventually a local agent charged me $140 to 'forge' a doc allowing me to import the bike.

But I had NO problems at all at any other border - Bolivia to Chiule, Chile to Peru or Peru to Ecuador. And I met a lot of guys on bikes plated in other countries either in their name ior someone elses with the Notary letter and POA who had no problems at any borders at all incl the Peru Bolivia crossing.


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