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Graham uk 26 Sep 2009 00:49

Paraguay dont issue import permits??
 
Hi, i've just entered paraguay from argentina at the ascunsion border post. Cleared argentina without any problems but to get into paraguay i had my passport stamped as per norm.

Then i was given a scrap of paper with an argentinian stamp on it and got a paraguay entrance stamp and police stamp on it. My title was quickly checked but as far as i can tell unless something was entered onto a computer i have no documents bar this piece of paper saying the bike is in the country.

Has anyone had anything similar? do you think i'd be able to fly out of the country or would my passport show something up when they scan it through? There is nothing written about the bike and the whole border process took less than five minutes and as my bike is pretty knackered now am thinking this is a good time to lose it.

JediMaster 26 Sep 2009 05:36

Temporary Import Papers
 
Hi Graham,

Are you 'young' Graham(DR650) or oldER Graham (DRZ400) ? I'm Adam F650, we met near La Paz.

Anyway, I digress. I entered Paraguay from Brazil at Ciudad del Este. I was issued a temporary import document but had to wander around a bit to find the Aduana office. The whole border was very lapse as many tourists walk across the bridge every day - to shop for cheap electronics - without the need to have their passports stamped. I could easily have left Brazil and entered Paraguy without having any paperwork processed. I can't vouch for how you'll fair if you exit to Argentina but if you exit to Brazil at Ciudad del Este I reckon there's a fair chance you'll have no trouble.
I left Bolivia with a Kiwi guy who'd stored his bike in La Paz for 10 months and had no temporary import document. All he had was a photocopy of his International Driving Licence with an Aduana stamp on it and the entry date written in ink. The first Aduana officer wanted nothing to do with him but the second checked his 'title' papers (he'd bought the bike in LA) against the frame and engine numbers and let him leave. That was the border south of Copacabana.
Enjoy Paraguay.

Adam
Short Way Round

Vorteks 27 Sep 2009 14:42

From my experiences in 2006/2007 :

Customs officers at the main border between Formosa and Asuncion don t give you any vehicule import paper since they assume you are driving a Mercosur registered vehicule. If you go back thru that border, you shouldnt have any problem.

If you take the ferry westwards of that border, they will give you an import paper which will allow you to leave any border without problem.

I dont know how customs are working since the colorados lost control of the country. Corruption might or might not have decreased, making your exit more or less difficult.

Officially, you do need an import document tho, so without it you are vulnerable to corruption attempts.:oops2:

Graham uk 27 Sep 2009 18:17

Right i undertsand that because its the same as the rest of the countries.

Im in encarncion at the moment and am really after the following information.

If i leave the bike here and just take a bus to the border would i be able to leave the country without the bike.. As i said, in my passport there is just an entry stamp with a signature on it. What im wondering if when the passport is scanned will the fact i arrived on a motorbike show up on their screens and they wont let me leave.

There is nothing in the passport written about the bike but im curious as to whether it would work.

what do you people think

Vorteks 27 Sep 2009 19:30

The problem wont be for you to leave the country since your vehicule has no official existence in the country. Even in Argentina you can leave the country without your vehicule. The problem might occur while leaving on borders that demand your import paper...and in case of accident/thievery. Police cant search for a vehicule that doesnt exist.

Some paraguayan borders are fairly loose. For example, in Poca Pora, I did the entrance registration in Brazil before the exit registration in Paraguay. It was no problem for brazilians but the paraguayan officer refused to stamp my outway so i just left and kept on travelling in Brazil. In Poca Pora, there is no border line since the town is half brazilian half paraguayan. Custom offices are facing one another on both sides of the same street.

mailking 7 Oct 2009 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vorteks (Post 258376)
... in Poca Pora, ...

It is called Ponta Pora [the Brazilian side], and indeed you can see it as one town with the borderline drawn invisible over it. Similar to Chui in the south between Uruguay and Brazil. You will have to find the migration and custom offices yourself.

I personally don't think it would be a problem to leave your bike there and cross without it.

The Paraguayan side is called Juan Pedro Cabellero

waypoints if needed:

Customs Office Brazil [for wheels] + on the other side is the Paraguayan office [for wheels as well as passport]
gps S 22.33.290 - W 055.43.093

Immigration office Brazil, Policia Federal [passport]
gps S 22.32.202 - W 055.43.848

sunflowers 13 Oct 2009 05:01

No problems
 
I don't know about Paraguay but I left my bike in Colombia and went to Venezuela without it and then again in Bolivia and went back into Peru - both times I had no difficulties at the border leaving the country my bike was left in.

Toodle pip,
Annette


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