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randomtraveller 7 Jun 2009 19:57

Panama to Colombia travel options (Jun 2009)
 
Introduction
There is very little up to date information on crossing the Darien Gap on a budget, so having just crossed, below is all the information I found about the options available for both travellers and bikers - this forum seemed a good place to list it.

If travelling with a bicycle, try options A, C or D.
If travelling with a motorbike, try options C or D.
If travelling with a pack, I would recommend option A - flying across the jungle in a small prop plane stopping at remote communities on the way is definately worth the extra money!


Definitions
Panama City: Capital
Puerto Obaldia: Panama border town on Carribean coast
Tubuala: Nearest airport to Panama border town (Puerto Obaldia's airport is closed at the moment due to landslides on the runway)
Carpurgana: Colombian border town on Carribean coast
Turbo: Port town in mainland Colombia
Cartagena/Medellin: Probable destination
$: US Dollars
COP: Colombian Pesos



Points to Note
  • Carpurgana businesses accept dollars at $1 = 2,000COP. The actual rate is around 2,100COP
  • You can exchange Dollars for Colombian Pesos in Panama City at the Casa de Cambio in Plaza Concordia
  • Bus from Panama City (Casco Viejo, Plaza cinqo de Mayo) - Albrook bus terminal cost $0.25. Ask any bus if they're heading to "Albrook"
  • Most of the boats used are small and have no cover. Make sure anything important is waterproofed in case of rough seas or random thunderstorms

A) Flight/Boat/Bus combo - total cost $170 travel time 2 days
  1. Fly Panama City - Tubuala with Air Panama or Aeroperlas (TACA). Both have offices in Panama City. They both fly Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun at 6am (Air Panama) & 10am (Aeroperlas). Flight times subject to change, make sure you leave the telephone number of the place you are staying. Fly from Albrook Airport (a short walk from bus terminal) $63.50 + $0.25 (bus to terminal) + $1.00 Tubuala "arrival tax". Travel time 1 hour
  2. Boat Tubuala - Puerto Obaldia. There should be a boat waiting at the airport island. $25 (you can try bargaining, but it's unlikely to work). Travel time 1 hour
  3. Migracion for exiting Panama. Free
  4. The same boat will take you to Carpurgana for $12. You could try to negotiate a deal at Tubuala for both journeys. Travel time 20 mins. It is possible to trek to Carpurgana, but there is guerilla activity in the area and during the wet season a lot of landslides. It should take 3-5 hours
  5. Migracion for entering Colombia. They will offer 30 days, ask for 60. Free
  6. Overnight in Carpurgana. You can find places to stay for 10,000COP - 20,000COP ($5 - $10)
  7. Boat Carpurgana - Turbo. Leaves every day at 07:30. Cost 49,000COP ($25). Travel time 3-4 hours
  8. Arrive Turbo. Be careful at the port - lots of "helpful people". From here you can get a bus to Medellin (8 hours, 85,000COP) or Monteria (4 hours, 35,000COP) and from there to Cartagena (4 hours, 40,000COP)


B) Direct Flight - total cost $146 travel time 4 hours
  1. Fly Aires air (AIRES - Las mejores ofertas en tiquetes aereos.) from Tocumen International Airport (Panama City) to Cartagena. They fly every day at 21:58 arriving at 23:16. Cost $124.70 (promotional fare)
  2. Misc costs: PTY departure tax $20, Bus to airport via bus terminal $0.50, bus to Cartagena city center 1,200COP


C) Cargo boat to Puerto Obaldia - total cost approx $180 travel time 6 days
  1. Bus Albrook terminal - Colon. Every 30-50 mins, $2.50 (2 hours)
  2. Colon bus terminal is on Calle 12. Head north up Ave Central to Calle 5
  3. Go to Pier 3, Calle 5 and ask for cargo boats heading to Puerto Obaldia at the pier office. These boats take cargo and trade with the Kuna indigenous people on the coast. Ask for boats "Don Luis" and "Lya del Mar" - they regularly run the route. Departure times vary - you'll need to ask when you arrive when the next boat is leaving. After a little bargaining you can probably get the price down to $70 including meals. Travel time around 4-5 days. You'll need a hammock and be comfortable living with sailors (solo female travellers might want to think carefully)
  4. Wait X number of days in Panama City for boat to leave. The cheapest hostel I could find was Casco Viejo in the old town (calle 8) for $9 a night
  5. Misc costs: Customs "tax" $20, Re-write crew manifest $10 (you can try bargaining)
  6. Follow Option A from step 3


D) Sail San Blas islands - total cost approx $410 travel time 5 days
  1. Ask at Casa Luna in Panama city or Hostel Wunderbar (Backpacker Hostel Wunderbar - Home) in Puerto Limon for boats to Cartagena. They leave pretty much every day and takes 4-5 days to get to Cartagena with 2-3 days spent on the San Blas islands. The website has an up to date list of boat departure times, number of places available and number of motorbikes it can carry. Cost $385 (not really negotiable, maybe if there are places available the day before departure)
  2. Misc costs: Panama City - Boat pier $25 by jeep. You can make your own way by public transport for much less though
  3. Note: You could try to negotiate directly with the boat captains, but the hostels are unlikely to give out telephone numbers as they receive $30 commission on every ticket sold (the cost is the same regardless of commission)


E) Trek through the Darien Gap - total cost approx $200 travel time 1-2 weeks
  1. You could try and trek overland, however you would need to have previous jungle experience, and spend a lot on local guides. There is also the risk of kidnapping due to heavy guerilla activity in the Darien Gap. It is even more difficult in the wet season. Not really recommended


Safe Travels!

gatogato 12 Jun 2009 21:53

Good info here. There have been a lot of threads about the Darien Gap in the past but the problem is that they always become old and disappear.

Your pricing information for Option D seems to be off. The boats on Hostelwunderbar all charge $750 to ferry you and your bike from Portobello, Panama to Cartegena, Colombia.

I would not bother with Casa Luna in Panama City. Hostelwunderbar in Puerto Limon has way better customer service.

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For option C make sure you know what you are getting yourself into when you take one of these cargo boats. In 2008 I traveled on the Lya del Mar from Colon to Puerto Obaldia. To start out with Colon is probably the most dangerous city in the Western World. Tourists are routinely held at knife/ gun point. Make sure that you pay a taxi driver to show you the way to Pier 3, Calle 5 and do not make any unnecessary stops.

The captain of Lya del Mar told me that the trip would take 4 days, and it ended up taking 9 days. The engine broke down, the sump pump stopped working, and we got stuck on a sand bar dangerously close to land. Luckily the seas were calm when there were mechanical issues but had they been rough like they were on the last day there would be a very high chance of sinking.

In Colon the dock height is about 6 ft. to high for the smallish cargo boats so your bike has to be lowered onto the deck of the ship. This is no easy task with a 400 lb bike and an unexperienced/uncaring crew. My bike was almost dropped into the ocean. All 4 turn signals were broke. The spot on the boat where your bike sits is between a couple of unbolted genertators and a metal pole. In rough seas your bike moves and rubs up against things.

At Puerto Obaldia there is no dock because it is an unportected harbor and the dock is usually wiped out by the last storm. This means unloading your bike off the side of the ship in 3-4 ft waves. The motorcycle has to be unloaded into a small boat that takes you to the border town of Capurgina, Colombia which is only 2 km away but the fare is $70. This boat ride was the hardest on my bike. I broke an oil sensor. The small boat really jumps when it hits the waves and your bike bounces up and down on the tires in the small boat. You have to force the guy in the small boat to go find tires, he will show up saying that your bike can rest the bike on 2x6 planks.

In Capurgina there is a stamp that you need to get from the DAS agent so that your bike can be legally shipped to Turbo. Make sure that you get it or there will be hell to pay when you get to Turbo. The dock in Capurgina was not very practical to unload a motorcycle so I think they took me to the neighboring resort town of Sapzurro instead. You still need that stamp from the DAS agent in Capurgina so this means that you will need pay $7 each way to go to Capurgina and back and also pay $5 each way for getting guys to help you load/unload the bike.

If you are a group of 3 or more and are really looking for an adventure then I would recommend Option C. Otherwise the $300 you save is not worth all the hassles and damage to your bike.

Wuwei 13 Jun 2009 00:12

If using option D be very careful about picking your boat. I would strongly suggest having someone to help you that you trust and knows a bit about sailing and boats. I've recently sailed all over the Caribbean side, including passaging from Panama to Colombia and back, and some of the "backpacker" boats are simply not safe--captains with no knowledge, poor maintenance, too small, no navigation instruments, generally not seaworthy, etc. I personally helped rescue one that sailed up on a reef, lost its rudder, nearly sunk, etc. If they hadn't crash landed where they did, near to where a bunch of us cruisers were anchored, there would have been dead folks. On some of the smaller boats your MC will be strapped on deck or on the stern and will be subjected to salt spray or even green water. Some of the boats just dump passengers off in Cartagena, preferably in the middle of the night, as they are not supposed to be doing what they are doing, which could make your entry into Colombia more problematic. Other captains rip off passengers in other ways. On the other hand, sailing the San Blas Islands is amazing, and highly recommended as one of the most interesting places in the Caribbean!

Wuwei 13 Jun 2009 00:22

Further to the post above, I will say that the Seeadler, which appears to be associated with the Hostelwunderbar, appears to be one of the better run operations, though it is not a very large boat. I believe your MC will be strapped to the stern or on the side deck. Marc on Melody knows his stuff too, though his boat is a bit more rough and ready. These are not big commercial boats--just ordinary pleasure sailboats adopted to carrying some passengers and gear.

Tina Francis 13 Jun 2009 14:04

great info thanks. we hope to be doing the boat thing later this year so this is all good to know


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