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Hohnjarmon 28 Nov 2015 18:55

Lost RUT - stuck in Arica
 
So my paper RUT has expired and I never picked up the plastic card in Vina del Mar. I can't cross the border with my bike without a valid RUT and nothing is open until Monday. Ideas?

What I am thinking:
a) Get someone to pick up my plastic RUT at the Vina SII and overnight ship it. (can they?).
b) Go to the SII and ask for a new one? Probably my best option but idk how effective.
c) take a bus to where I want to go and ship the bike back....

I only have until December 21st to finish my trip and return to Vina del Mar. I was hoping to go to Cusco, Machu Picchu, the Amazon, Uyuni, and Mendoza, crossing into Santiago and then Vina.

I hope I still have enough time. Fingers crossed.

ridetheworld 29 Nov 2015 01:16

Lost RUT - stuck in Arica
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong but you should be able to cross boarder with passport and the carnet - i.e. the title of the bike (a yellowish very important peice of paper). I never use my RUT to leave Chile because it is expired (my pink RUT ID card was issued on a work visa and expired with the visa) and the Argentinians would never accept it.

I don't have a scanner handy or I'd post mine up but the peice of paper used by the Chilean Aduana has different options for possible ID options, they use the RUT/carnet card by default but if you just politely ask the use your passport instead (por favor puedo usar mi pasaporte en vez de el carnet?) you shouldn't have any problem. I never did.

Maybe it's worth crossing into Bolivia if this doesn't work at Arica (I've only entered chile using that boarder never left but I swear I always use my passport and have done at several crossings).

Alternatively I'm too sure what you can do - I doubt someone else can pick up that card, as for issuing a new one how longs that gonna take? I'm not sure they'd be too happy with that. Maybe one office could send to the Arica office? I heard you can have them send the card to another office from the one you applied at, *before* the card has been issued.
Might be worth going down to speak to them if your Spanish is good.

Cheers,
RTW

Hohnjarmon 29 Nov 2015 03:10

Hm really?? Is your bike Chilean registered?? Maybe I can try again, either here or at the Bolivian border. They told me I was free to cross with my passport, but not with the motorcycle.

I could try crossing to Bolivia tomorrow, only a couple hours away. I'm not sure I understood this correctly, but I think they were telling me I would have problems crossing back into Chile without a valid RUT.

Also, while I have the padron (title) I technically sold the bike to a Chilean friend at a notaria right before I left Vina; I did this to give me more time to return.
He gave me a notarized letter authorizing me to take the bike to Peru, Bolivia, Argentina, and of course Chile.

I figured I'd first try claiming the bike as mine at the border, because the paperwork hasn't gone through the systems yet, and if that didn't work use the notarized letter. Neither worked for me today.

Also, what is the Visa process for Bolivia? I don't have my yellow fever shot and heard that may be required...

Tony LEE 29 Nov 2015 03:38

We weren't asked for our yellow fever papers.
If you are US citizen it will cost you money to get in but otherwise the usual passport plus vehicle papers procedure. Your experience may vary without official bike papers because even with a poder, you probably need at least a copy of the vehicle papers

ridetheworld 29 Nov 2015 04:33

Lost RUT - stuck in Arica
 
I'm not sure about the notoria letter or poder I'm afraid. My bike is Chilean registered yes. I'm the original and only owner. When I leave the county I just present my passport and the title and that's all. Like I say, I always have to ask to have the bike signed out with my passport instead of the carnet. I never said why and was never asked. Regarding Bolivia they just want to see the title (the first time I gave them the permission de circulaciĆ³n by mistake and they accepted it anyway!) and your passport. They'll either give you a month or three assuming your on a EU passport. Remember you may be asked for insurance for he bike, though I was only ever asked once in 2.5 years.

Hohnjarmon 29 Nov 2015 04:48

Excellent! I'll go tomorrow and try my luck.
Last thing is, it wasn't the Peruvians who gave me trouble, it was exiting Chile where I had the problem, didn't even make it to the other side.
Also, I have an American passport.
Not sure if that changes anything, but thank you guys for your help, I'll head off in the morning for Bolivia and try there. Worst case scenario I check out Lauca national park and ride back just before dark.

Cheers!

Tony LEE 29 Nov 2015 05:02

Not sure but I heard you need US bills in good condition at the Bolivian border

BruceP 29 Nov 2015 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hohnjarmon (Post 522262)

Also, while I have the padron (title) I technically sold the bike to a Chilean friend at a notaria right before I left Vina; I did this to give me more time to return.
He gave me a notarized letter authorizing me to take the bike to Peru, Bolivia, Argentina, and of course Chile.

This is your problem, to get your bike into Peru you will need the owner present with the bike. The Peruvians will not accept the notorised letter.

The Chiliean aduana know this and will not let you cross from Arica.

However it will be accepted in Bolivia and Argentina.

We had these issues in 2012, Bolivia let us out at Copacabana but the Peruvians would not let the bike in.

Our foiled attempt at entering Peru
HU Traveller Two Pegs to Patagonia's Ride Tale

And further investigation in Arica
HU Traveller Two Pegs to Patagonia's Ride Tale

Hohnjarmon 29 Nov 2015 10:34

BruceP, I still have the title, think I can pass it off as my bike?

About to head to Bolivia

ridetheworld 29 Nov 2015 13:29

Good luck, and let us know how you get on!

Hohnjarmon 29 Nov 2015 15:25

So, on a whim, I went back to the Arica border crossing first. I figure it was close by, and if I got denied again I could ask there opinion on heading into Bolivia.

Well, thankfully a new shift was working so I thought I'd play dumb and try again, this time giving them my passport and not mentioning anything about my RUT.

I used the padron as if the bike was my own, which in the system I believe it still is for a little while longer. The experience was over before I knew it and they sent me on my way!

So glad I decided to try again. Currently in Tacna debating on getting new brakes here tomorrow (closed on Sunday), or head on my way to Cusco while it's early and get them en route. They aren't sufficient to get me the whole way, but I'm also running low on time. My left front fork is leaking a bit too, not sure how important that is.

I appreciate the advice guys, I probably wouldn't haven't bothered trying again if not for your own successful experiences @ridetheworld

ridetheworld 29 Nov 2015 15:35

Lost RUT - stuck in Arica
 
That's great news. What bike are you riding? You can probably find parts in Arequipa but not much chance of little else between there and Cusco. If you have time visit the Cotahuasi canyon or the Colca (which is sort of on the way to Cusco). MP experience overrated in my opinion but Cusco is very nice. Stay at the Hotel Estrellita, found on iOverlander app for iOS/android. Some great riding in southern Peru, the best so far for me.

BruceP 30 Nov 2015 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hohnjarmon (Post 522326)
So, on a whim, I went back to the Arica border crossing first. I figure it was close by, and if I got denied again I could ask there opinion on heading into Bolivia.

Well, thankfully a new shift was working so I thought I'd play dumb and try again, this time giving them my passport and not mentioning anything about my RUT.

I used the padron as if the bike was my own, which in the system I believe it still is for a little while longer. The experience was over before I knew it and they sent me on my way!

So glad I decided to try again. Currently in Tacna debating on getting new brakes here tomorrow (closed on Sunday), or head on my way to Cusco while it's early and get them en route. They aren't sufficient to get me the whole way, but I'm also running low on time. My left front fork is leaking a bit too, not sure how important that is.

I appreciate the advice guys, I probably wouldn't haven't bothered trying again if not for your own successful experiences @ridetheworld


Don't worry about the fork, if you follow our 2012 blog you will see I had a similar problem.

Just ride easy and there should be no problem (you still have damping on one side :-) )

Hohnjarmon 3 Dec 2015 00:37

Hey sorry for the late reply! I got to Cocachacra the same day I made it across the border, ended up getting food poisoning from some chicken there. While I've made myself ride on, I've been pretty much out of commission otherwise since. Now feeling 100x better I'm in Chiva in the Colca Canyon, absolutely beautiful place.

Anyways I'm riding a Honda Falcon 400cc, I got everything I needed (and more than I thought i needed) fixed in Arequipa with no problems. New sprockets, new chain, new breaks, and fixed the fork, all for 560 Soles same day.

Manana I'm off to Cusco

JLee 1 Oct 2018 03:53

Lost aduana
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceP (Post 522304)
This is your problem, to get your bike into Peru you will need the owner present with the bike. The Peruvians will not accept the notorised letter.

The Chiliean aduana know this and will not let you cross from Arica.

However it will be accepted in Bolivia and Argentina.

We had these issues in 2012, Bolivia let us out at Copacabana but the Peruvians would not let the bike in.

Our foiled attempt at entering Peru
HU Traveller Two Pegs to Patagonia's Ride Tale

And further investigation in Arica
HU Traveller Two Pegs to Patagonia's Ride Tale

Long story short, i had the same problem execept my friend in Chile lost my aduana document thingy, i have the title and a copy of the registration. Is it possible to get a new Aduana?


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