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jay_leegi 12 Jul 2009 18:57

Looking for a bike in Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, etc..
 
Hi all,

I'm currently in Northern Colombia, Taganga, and heading south later this week. I'm looking for a klr, xr 600/650/400, bmw, xt600 or other 400-1200 cc enduros. I have no definite plans as of yet, so I'm flexible as to where I can meet. If you have a bike, or know of a good bike for sale, please let me know.

Thanks!

Jay

kaiserkyhl 12 Jul 2009 23:41

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Originally Posted by jay_leegi (Post 249519)
Hi all,

I'm currently in Northern Colombia, Taganga, and heading south later this week. I'm looking for a klr, xr 600/650/400, bmw, xt600 or other 400-1200 cc enduros. I have no definite plans as of yet, so I'm flexible as to where I can meet. If you have a bike, or know of a good bike for sale, please let me know.

Thanks!

Jay

Hey Jay
I'm in Cali and I have a 2008 KLR 650 for sale with additional Happy trail alu boxes on if you're interested. One thing though, you do know its illegal to buy a Colombian registered vehicle in Colombia on a tourist visa !!??

So if you want to buy it here you need to drive in someone else's name!

You can see more here: Sale « MOTOLOMBIA – extreme bike adventure

jay_leegi 13 Jul 2009 01:11

re: Looking for a bike in Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, etc..
 
Hey Mike,

I'd definitely be interested. Is there anyway to get around that? What are you looking to get for the bike? How many miles/ km?

Thanks!

Jay

markharf 13 Jul 2009 02:17

The link given lists the price as 17,500 COP. That's almost US$8000, isn't it? Maybe I need to quit my job and start smuggling KLR's.

(No one need take me seriously or start drawing conclusions about morality....at least on this occasion.)

Mark

kaiserkyhl 13 Jul 2009 05:32

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Originally Posted by markharf (Post 249548)
The link given lists the price as 17,500 COP. That's almost US$8000, isn't it? Maybe I need to quit my job and start smuggling KLR's.

(No one need take me seriously or start drawing conclusions about morality....at least on this occasion.)

Mark

Ha, ha yeah if you can find a way to bring new ones here cheap I might want to make business!

No the problem in Colombia is that its illegal to import used vehicles and the import tax on new vehicles are 45%, so this means that the price of vehicles are extremely high and the used value is equally high.

For example the 2009 KLR650 cost about 21.000.000 from new, so you'll be very lucky to find a 2008 for under 16.000.000 (which is also my absolute minimum for the bike without the panniers).

On top of that its illegal to purchase and register a vehicle as a tourist in Colombia. Only way around that is to buy the bike and register it in the name of a Colombian or foreigner like me that holds a Colombian ID. You can make a signed contract stating who is the real owner and have a lawyer confirm the deal, but the original papers will have to be in someone else's name. Also you'll need a written permission from the person on the papers if you want to leave the country.

I can of cause help fix this if you're still interested.

Details for my KLR650 are:
Year: 2008
Color: green
Miles: 6600
Tax and insurance: paid for all of 2009
Condition: like new, I've done all services and more
Additional: Happy-trail aluminium panniers and rack
Minimum price with-out panniers: 16.000.000 COP

jay_leegi 14 Jul 2009 16:32

Thanks, Mike, but I could never forgive myself for paying that much for a klr. Regretting that I didn't do a bit more research before I left. Looks like it would have been much cheaper to buy a bike in the states and ride or ship it down here. Anyone have any info or experience buying a bike in Ecuador? I'd be buying it from someone else also on a tourist visa.

Thnaks! Jay

PocketHead 15 Jul 2009 01:23

The price of the bike is relative to its resale value, perhaps Mike would offer a buy back? Only problem is you'd need to put up an $8000 deposit in case you crash it or something.

Personally I have no problem going slowly, flying into Bogota tomorrow, going try and arrange a couple of 125cc china bikes with my friend
depending what I hear about safety over the next few days.

Need to finish my google maps route then post it here actually, will do that now.

AndyT 15 Jul 2009 05:26

We are blessed with cheap motorcycle prices in the USA. In 2006, a new KLR 650 in Ecuador was $11,000 US. Large bikes are heavily taxed in most (all?) Latin American countries. On the other hand, I was in a shopping mall in Ecuador, and a household appliance store had a package deal on a new 100cc two stroke Suzuki street bike, a helmet, TV set, and boombox, all for $1100. No idea what is required for a foreigner to buy a bike there.

kaiserkyhl 15 Jul 2009 13:17

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Originally Posted by jay_leegi (Post 249767)
Thanks, Mike, but I could never forgive myself for paying that much for a klr. Regretting that I didn't do a bit more research before I left. Looks like it would have been much cheaper to buy a bike in the states and ride or ship it down here. Anyone have any info or experience buying a bike in Ecuador? I'd be buying it from someone else also on a tourist visa.

Thnaks! Jay

I know what you mean, I too had to digg deep and close my eyes to pay for it ;-). But the good thing is the bike/vehicles keep the value here. So should you chose to buy a bike in Colombia or else where, you can most likely sell it at a price cloce to what you paid in the country of registration. For example i just helped a guy from Slovenia sell his 2008 Suzuki V-stom. He had for one year here, did 15.000 km and had a big accident, fixed the bike and we sold it for 17.000.000 COP. He paid 18.500.000 in 2008!!

Anyway the whole point of me having my different bikes and a couple of ATV´s are because I make tours and rental here, so you could ofcause alway rent a bike for a while.

Ps. same problem about registration for small bikes. Just helped two other tourists that bought 125cc bikes, but never where able to make the papers. When they then wanted to sell, it was not possible without papers and the original owners refused to give a new sales contract without the buyers name unless they paid for the bikes one more time, so we had to sell them without papers. They lost like 75% on each bike!:scooter:

glasswave 16 Jul 2009 00:42

I have a 400cc for sale in Cusco or other place.

The add is here:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...nx-400-a-40522

An advantage of this bike is that it can be sold to any Chilean citizen w/o massive import fees. The listed price is cheaper than any Falcon currently listed in all of the main Chilean online moto sites.

Check the add and let me know by eMail if you have any questions.

kaiserkyhl 16 Jul 2009 16:30

Maybe this is something, You'll have to jump the gap but its still a great price even with a 600$ flight from Panama City. (I can help arrange flight and temp import in Colombia if you want)

2008 KLR Fire Sale! Central America, 10K Mi, $3,500 - ADVrider

jay_leegi 18 Jul 2009 20:40

Kaiser and Glass-

Thanks for the heads up on the bikes for sale. I have a bike lined up in Bogota next week. Hoping we can get the paper work squared away somehow.

PocketHead 25 Jul 2009 02:53

Hey guys, just want to confirm that my friend and I have successfully purchased two motorcycles from a dealer and have all of the paperwork in our names.

It was a little tricky however there is a box on the papers you fill out which says 'c.extranjero' make sure this one is crossed, it's for foreigners. They will tell you that you need a number from your identification, the number they ask for is only available to Colombians as they don't often sell to tourists however we used passport numbers but I think you can also use the number from your 'International Drivers License' which you should definitely have already if riding in Colombia.

Apart from this all we have to do now is take our licenses to the transito and obtain some stamped piece of paper which confirms we are licensed to ride within Colombia, we're doing this on Monday.

I would like to recommend this dealer because they helped me with the process immensely, it was AKT Motos on Avenida 1 de Mayo, one of the girls there was very kind but I don't remember her name. Their website is www.aktmotos.com. I do not believe this process to be easy if you do not speak Spanish, take a translator with you if this is the case as nobody at the dealer spoke English.

For $2.800.000 pesos each (approx $1350 usd I think) we purchased two brand new 125cc motorcycles with all paperwork, helmets, jacket for numberplate info, SOAT insurance all ready to go, overall took 5 days but it should take between 3-5 days depending on how busy the offices are.


Edit: this was all done in Bogotá

markharf 25 Jul 2009 03:26

Pockethead, maybe you want to mention what city you're in....? Bogata?

kaiserkyhl 25 Jul 2009 14:25

Guys I hope you're right!!!!??, but making the purchage is not the tricky part, anyone will sell you a bike and insurance, can even be done in one day!

"C. Extranjero" is "Cedular Extranjero", which is a Colombian ID number all foreigners with a long term visa/residency permit receive, so they have status as a Colombian.

And Transito is the Colombian DMW (government office for vechiles), and it is here the REAL test will be, because its illegal to register a vehicle in Colombia on a tourist visa according to the law.

So for your sake I really really hope they will except your passport number/drivers license on the registration form. Because until you have the licence from the Transito approved you have nothing except bikes you can ride illegally.

This is exactly what happened for two guys that came here to Cali on two small bikes they had purchaged used and ridden around Colombia without papers. Luckily they never got stopped and checked by the police which could have resulted in confiscation of the bikes and even jail time.

They where not able to register the bikes with Transito in neither Santa Marta nor Cali with their passport, eventhough they had the sales contract, the original papers from the former owner everything notorised and so on.

So without the Licencia de transito in their own names, they could not sell the bikes again and they had to sell them without papers on the "black market" to a much much lower price.
Good luck and keep us informed, maybe you'll need to pay someone a little something to make it happen:helpsmilie:

Quote:

Originally Posted by PocketHead (Post 251008)
Hey guys, just want to confirm that my friend and I have successfully purchased two motorcycles from a dealer and have all of the paperwork in our names.

It was a little tricky however there is a box on the papers you fill out which says 'c.extranjero' make sure this one is crossed, it's for foreigners. They will tell you that you need a number from your identification, the number they ask for is only available to Colombians as they don't often sell to tourists however we used passport numbers but I think you can also use the number from your 'International Drivers License' which you should definitely have already if riding in Colombia.

Apart from this all we have to do now is take our licenses to the transito and obtain some stamped piece of paper which confirms we are licensed to ride within Colombia, we're doing this on Monday.

I would like to recommend this dealer because they helped me with the process immensely, it was AKT Motos on Avenida 1 de Mayo, one of the girls there was very kind but I don't remember her name. Their website is www.aktmotos.com. I do not believe this process to be easy if you do not speak Spanish, take a translator with you if this is the case as nobody at the dealer spoke English.

For $2.800.000 pesos each (approx $1350 usd I think) we purchased two brand new 125cc motorcycles with helmets, jacket for numberplate info, SOAT insurance all ready to go, overall took 5 days but it should take between 3-5 days depending on how busy the offices are.



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