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Paulo Assis 13 Aug 2019 10:01

reply from "HELP! Missing Person in Bolivia - Facebook"


Nicolas adora la musica y toca su guitarra de viaje que se ve en la foto en cuanto puede. Si crees que has visto a Nicolas, ¿puedes especificar cuándo y dónde y también dejar tu número de teléfono para que Catherine pueda contactarte (o contactar a Catherine al 78797494)?
(thanks Jhoan Cristhian Untiveros Vilches for the pictures



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akosiwa 13 Aug 2019 12:39

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Originally Posted by Bucephalus (Post 603224)

Drive to every single hostel first thing and ask about him - he hops hostel to hostel you should be able to trace him to the day he went missing by tracking the hostels - get access to his booking and hostelworld accounts. Then you have a search radius.

Hi Bucephalus, I wrote to booking.com and hostelworld a while ago. booking.com never replied, hostelworld sent the missing person post through all their network but nothing has come out of this. We've also had help from Cae, the Vice-President of the La Paz hotel chamber, who sent the ad through to all hotels in the country, nothing so far... I'm waiting to get a serious lead to go there myself and knock at every single hostel in the area. The only serious lead we seem to have at this stage is Rurrenabaque over a month ago. I'm currently in Tarija trying to confirm some recent sightings in el Angosto. If I can't confirm them, I'll be on my way to Rurrenabaque tomorrow.

gatogato 14 Aug 2019 00:19

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Originally Posted by akosiwa (Post 603233)
I'm waiting to get a serious lead to go there myself and knock at every single hostel in the area.

I do not think you are turning over every stone to find him. It is hard to be critical of someone when they are dealing with something like this.

A lot of us have offered advice or asked questions and a lot of it has not been followed up on.

You can't just wait for it to fall in your lap.

Paulo Assis 14 Aug 2019 08:44

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Originally Posted by gatogato (Post 603259)
I do not think you are turning over every stone to find him. It is hard to be critical of someone when they are dealing with something like this.

A lot of us have offered advice or asked questions and a lot of it has not been followed up on.

You can't just wait for it to fall in your lap.


Yes, Gatogato! And, for real, she is not alone. There is a vast surrounding. That is why we are here: together.
With or in proximity to another person or persons at this search. Each one and other looking under the stones. Each small or strong report. Building this search. looking for him, whom we didn't found yet . not yet. not yet.

That is why we are here: together.

In the very beggining of this august, no one knew that there were a search for Nicolas Holzem. Now, many people know. And are concerning and helping. People in Bolivia and around the world have been brought together to help.

I am thinking how I can improve my efforts and help to have him back home. no matter how far or close I am.

I am a traveler. For some moments, a motorcycle traveler. I use to make my travels to distants distances alone. Maybe like him. And I have family. Maybe like him. And I have had the chance and testifyed that, for real, eache one is never alone.

Let’s spread the voice of this search for Nicolas, very probably a good guy!

“Los mineiros de Chile!" (Y)

chris 14 Aug 2019 09:26

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Originally Posted by gatogato (Post 603259)
I do not think you are turning over every stone to find him. It is hard to be critical of someone when they are dealing with something like this.

A lot of us have offered advice or asked questions and a lot of it has not been followed up on.

You can't just wait for it to fall in your lap.


Unhelpful. Very unhelpful comments, especially the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs, IMHO.

You have no idea what leads have or haven't been followed up. Do you regularly speak with the family directly? Are you in Bolivia helping? There's a lot more happening than you know about, I assure you!

Your positive contributions are appreciated, not keyboard warrior heroism from 10 thousand miles away!

DLyttle 14 Aug 2019 21:27

Gas station
 
I was riding in Bolivia last year. From memory there were only one or two national gas station chains. I wonder if they could help spread the word. I found their staff helpful and friendly. Ok there are plenty of casual sellers of gas but I found the national chains the best. Good luck

Paulo Assis 15 Aug 2019 00:42

Yes, DLyttle.
In fact, as far as I know, most are casual salespeople.
National gas chains are helping a lot.
As far as I know, the people in Bolivia are very friendly and helpful.
And reaching out to them, bringing it to them for help, to let them know of this search for Nicolas Holzem, spreading and broadcasting this message and these images, so that they can - who knows something - help us, is the most important. The internet there is not very present. However, it is a powerful instrument. Perhaps all information obtained from there - however vague - gives it a chance to be known and accurate.

Please help spread these searchs and claims for help by distributing this message to every of your contacts.

Internet is powerful tool. Especially when used for disclosures like this. Bringing people together for a good cause.

Never forgot: "los mineros de Chile!"


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Paulo Assis 15 Aug 2019 01:11

united. straight. amity.


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Paulo Assis 15 Aug 2019 22:42

Sophie Holzem
Administrador · 10 h
Queridos amigos
Nuestra hermana Catherine comenzará el viernes 16 de agosto en Cobija
para recopilar los diversos testimonios de personas que piensan haber
visto a nuestro hermano Nicolás.
Si crees que has visto a
Nicolas, ¿puedes especificar cuándo y dónde y también dejar tu número de
teléfono para que Catherine pueda contactarte (o contactar a Catherine
al 78797494)?
Gracias de nuevo amigos nuestros!

Warin 15 Aug 2019 23:59

translation - abrivated.
 
Catherine will start on Friday, August 16 in Cobija to collect the various testimonies of people who think they have seen our brother Nicholas.
If you think you've seen Nicolas, can you specify when and where.

Paulo Assis 16 Aug 2019 01:35

https://www.facebook.com/graziano.pe...20925371472349

Pastourer 16 Aug 2019 07:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatogato (Post 603259)
I do not think you are turning over every stone to find him. It is hard to be critical of someone when they are dealing with something like this.

A lot of us have offered advice or asked questions and a lot of it has not been followed up on.

You can't just wait for it to fall in your lap.

:thumbdown:

chris 16 Aug 2019 14:06

Can anyone help? Must be able to write and understand Spanish and have/know how to use WhatsApp.

Sophie, upon my suggestion, searched the iOverlander app for accommodations that Nico might have stayed in or visited during his time in Bolivia. She generated 120 or so possible hostals/ budget places that had safe motorcycle parking in Bolivia. It’s now in the format of a Microsoft .xls spreadsheet.

I’ve just spend a while searching (Google/Facebook) each of these (often with incomplete names/locations) for phone numbers. I have 60. In my experience of Latin America, most cell phone numbers match a WhatsApp contact.

Is anyone able to send a text based message in Spanish asking if they have seen Nico (link to Facebook group and video etc) and also the poster that they could print and put up in their hostal. And share with everyone in their Bolivian address book.

I can email you the spreadsheet if you can contact these hostals. I would do it myself, but my Spanish is poor, especially written, and time doesn’t permit. After a 2 and a half week injury layoff in Kyrgyzstan, I’m now able to ride a bike again from tomorrow!!

As it’s quite a lot of work (but really only a lot of copy and pasting of the same text…), if there were 2 or more, I can send you an equal share each. Many hands make light work.

The guy can’t just have disappeared off the face of the earth! While there are relatively speaking in the motorcycle travel community a lot of bike travellers, in South America a gringo on a bike is still something very unique and hopefully memorable for the locals!

Email me via my website or direct msg me and I’ll advise my email address.

cnagel6 16 Aug 2019 18:40

willing to help
 
I would be more than glad to help in anyway possible. I'm a Bolivian ADV rider living in the USA, fluent in Spanish.

Most Hostels have landlines and will not accept any txt, however I'll try, at home we have a pretty inexpensive landline calling rate I can use. Likewise If you have WhatsApp numbers I'll call those numbers too.

To be efficient and effective we need to organize a calling record keeping system so we do not duplicate the effort and get through the calls faster...

Im willing to send my cell phone # to someone, please send me a PM.

I stand-by, plz let me know.

Carlos

chris 16 Aug 2019 20:04

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Originally Posted by cnagel6 (Post 603372)
I would be more than glad to help in anyway possible. I'm a Bolivian ADV rider living in the USA, fluent in Spanish.

Most Hostels have landlines and will not accept any txt, however I'll try, at home we have a pretty inexpensive landline calling rate I can use. Likewise If you have WhatsApp numbers I'll call those numbers too.

To be efficient and effective we need to organize a calling record keeping system so we do not duplicate the effort and get through the calls faster...

Im willing to send my cell phone # to someone, please send me a PM.

I stand-by, plz let me know.

Carlos

Hi Carlos
Thanks for you kind offer. Lots of people offered on FB, so we're fine for now.

The group is at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1172...location=group


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