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mak 3 Sep 2018 20:41

A detailed Guide on buying a motorcycle in Colombia
 
This is my firsthand experience of buying a Yamaha Tenere 250 from an individual in Medellin in the month of August 2018.
I hope to travel for 4-6 months through Ecuador and Peru and return to Medellin where i can legally sell the motorcycle to either a local or foreign national.

Legally buying a motorcycle in Colombia

I reached Colombia on the 15th of August 2018 with the intention of buying a motorcycle to travel through parts of South America ending my trip in Colombia a few months later.

Colombia is a one of the few countries in South America where you can legally register a motorcycle in your name, cross international borders and legally sell the motorcycle In Colombia.

Legally is the keyword over here as there are cheaper ways of buying foreign registered motorcycles while in South America. They may be cheaper and will involve photoshop skills. But I don’t recommend them and wouldn’t do it myself.

So here we go.
Basics you need to buy a motorcycle in Colombia as a foreign National.
  1. A motorcycle you like.
  2. The Money.
  3. Your Passport.

The Initial Research

Figure out where you want to buy before hand. The reason is primarily to find the going rates and availability of the motorcycle in the cities your planning to visit.

The best cities would be
  1. Bogota
  2. Medellin
  3. Cali
  4. Cartagena
Obviously the bigger cities have a better selection online as well a more structured second dealer network.

The websites to look for motorcycles online are
  1. MercadoLibre
  2. OLX
  3. TuMoto
These are in order of preference and ease of navigation.
I would not recommend buying a motorcycle without seeing and riding it. But they are a good place to get an idea of prices of motorcycles and how they vary across cities. As well as year of manufacture and number of KMs run. It will give you an idea if someone is overcharging for a motorcycle or its ridiculously cheap.. both tend to be red flags.

The Motorcycle

Check the motorcycle
I'm not getting into too much detail over here.because i have a really long checklist. I used to be a mechanic so i know my way around an engine, but it was the first time i had ever seen a Tenere 250 in my life. So after i was satisfied with the motorcycle. I was able to get an independent mechanic to look at the motorcycle. I definitely would recommend this.

Check Frame and engine number as per registration

Check all documents
  1. Registration Card
  2. SOAT
  3. Technico Mechanica
  4. Police clearance - not a document

The Registration Card will have details of the owner, vehicle number,chassis and engine number. model number and smaller details. Just make sure everything lines up and matches and you will be fine.

The SOAT, which is the insurance cover for your motorcycle and any third party damage caused. it is linked to the Motorcycle and not to you. Note the SOAT is valid only in Colombia and you will have to buy a new SOAT for every country you visit in South America. It isn’t very expensive and varies from $15-$30.

The Technico Mechanica, states that the vehicle is mechanically fit to be on the road.
The Technico Mechanica is more expensive and will have to be valid for the entire time you are in Colombia as well as when you re-enter the country.

The SOAT and the Technico Mechanica should be valid at the time of transfer. they typically have a validity of 1 year.

Get a clear chit from the police, just to make sure the vehicle does not have any pending fines, or was involved in any accidents.
This can be done by going to a nearby Police station or even to a policeman who has a data connection. They will enter the vehicle number and will be able to tell you on the spot if anything is out of place.

The Money Transfer


It is typical to pay a small amount as a security deposit for the motorcycle. There is a official document when both Buyer and seller fill in their details along with finalised amount as well as the initial deposit that was paid. Index finger prints of both parties are required for this document.
A lot of individual sellers will prefer to do the transaction in cash. Dealers will be ok with bank transfers but cash seems to be the preferred method.

Be aware of carrying large amounts of cash. Always do the handover in the bank itself and take a signed note from the seller that they have received the money.

Typically they will be ok with installments if you have limitations with ATM withdrawals.
Speak to your bank beforehand ifyou intend to do a large international transaction. You could alternatively usea service like Transferwise or Xoom to transfer the money into a local bank account.

The Paperwork
The transfer process in major cities is very straightforward and typically takes half a day if you go yourself with the seller, and you will have the papers in your name legally.

Knowledge of Spanish is required to make this process seamless.

If you are buying a motorcycle from a dealer, they typically will take care of the paperwork and the entire process will take one or two working days. You will still need a RUNT (so you will have to read a bit more).

Items Needed
  1. Rubbings of the Engine and Chassis number.
  2. Transfer forms - can be obtained at the Movilad/Office
  3. Your Passport.
  4. Original Registration Papers
  5. SOAT
  6. Technico Mechanica

The RUNT
To have the motorcycle you will need a RUNT.
The RUNT is the National Registry for all individuals who own vehicles or have licences. Basically anything Automotive related requires you to exist in the RUNT database.
Registry for the RUNT is free and as a foreign only requires your original passport. Not even a licence.
They will fill in your details as per your passport, scan your index fingers(both of them) and take a photo. You wont get a acknowledgment of the RUNT, but you can always retrieve it from the RUNT website using your passport number.
The RUNT registration takes around 15 minutes not including waiting time.

The Paperwork for the transfer
For the transfer the seller/dealer will have to bring the original registration for the vehicle.
Transfer forms can be obtained at the office of transfer and are not charged. You will have to use a local address. even a hotel address is fine.
Just a single large detailed form which will need your passport number, your index finger print and signature. it is in spanish but well laid out and easy to understand.
Submit the forms and make the payment for transfer.

Cost of Vehicle transfer
The fixed amount for the transfer 77,000COP + 1% of vehicle value.
From what i understand. If it is a dealer, it is included in the price. But for individuals, the cost of transfer is split equally between both parties.

After making the payment. You’’ll be asked to return to collect the papers in an hour or two.
Go grab a coffee and enjoy the anticipation.

Return to collect the papers and your done.
Make sure all financial transactions are done, collect the SOAT, Technico Mechanica and keys from the seller and you’re done.

Note:-
I bought the motorcycle directly from a seller and not through a dealer. My spanish is basic at best and not equipped to conduct business with government agencies. I was lucky to have a patient seller who accompanied me and helped with the paperwork.

Remember to smile a lot, be patient and accommodating.

Tim Cullis 3 Sep 2018 22:57

Comprehensive write-up, thanks for sharing

NewbRider 4 Sep 2018 01:59

Yeah I'll second that, good job, got it saved for future reference. Cheers

mak 4 Sep 2018 03:11

Thanks guys.
I'll try update the post with a few links.
I struggled to find complete information online for the entire process before i landed here in Colombia.
Tried to put together as much as i could..

brclarke 4 Sep 2018 15:30

Very nice post. Thank you for this info!

motrhead 5 Sep 2018 04:05

Great info, thanks! I may end up doing this myself.

korsun 17 Sep 2018 05:19

Many thanks!
In 3 weeks i'm flying to Bogota to buy a bike and i'm enchanted with Tenere 250 (well, i've never seen it alive though). Unfortunately, according to the dealers websites now they don't sell it new in Colombia, only enduro-type XTZ250 ("Lander"), and there are not so many offers buying it used on mercadolibre...
Hope to add here my own buying experience in a month.

mak, if it's not a secret, what what was the initial price for your bike and did you negotiate it? Prices on mercadolibre are weird but i'm pretty sure they are negotiable, the question is how much...

Jvlianja 17 Sep 2018 14:35

This is the guide!

Yo invito el café en Bogotá! bier Coffee's on me.

If you need some help with Spanish, message me, I am close to some Yamaha and Suzuki Shops, and others.

Great job Mak, did you enjoy the tinto? :scooter:

mak 24 Sep 2018 16:18

Hey Korsun,

Most places dropped the price by atleast 1 million pesos after i pointed out minor issues. Everyone seems ok to negotiate. But obviously within reason.
I saw quite a few motorcycles and this seemed to be the case everywhere.

I got the price down from 13.5 to 12 million and spent the different adding accessories to the bike :)
I did find some Tenere 250s for lower but they had higher mileage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by korsun (Post 589637)
Many thanks!
In 3 weeks i'm flying to Bogota to buy a bike and i'm enchanted with Tenere 250 (well, i've never seen it alive though). Unfortunately, according to the dealers websites now they don't sell it new in Colombia, only enduro-type XTZ250 ("Lander"), and there are not so many offers buying it used on mercadolibre...
Hope to add here my own buying experience in a month.

mak, if it's not a secret, what what was the initial price for your bike and did you negotiate it? Prices on mercadolibre are weird but i'm pretty sure they are negotiable, the question is how much...


mak 24 Sep 2018 21:43

Thank you so much for the invite!!
I'm way South right now. Hopefully when i return in a few months!
I'm still enjoying the tinto!!
At San Agustin now, slowly making my way to Ecuador in the next 10 days

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jvlianja (Post 589647)
This is the guide!

Yo invito el café en Bogotá! bier Coffee's on me.

If you need some help with Spanish, message me, I am close to some Yamaha and Suzuki Shops, and others.

Great job Mak, did you enjoy the tinto? :scooter:


Jerry_Travels 25 Sep 2018 01:34

Appreciate the detailed information.

1. Can you provide a little more info for the money transfer to the seller? Exactly when did you give the seller money and what did you get in return?

2. Where did you find a mechanic to check the bike? Cost? (I heard they do a complete check at near the Macro (over the river past the Poblado Metro Station) but the cost sounded a little high.

Thank you.

korsun 21 Oct 2018 02:16

Well, i finally did it. I spent a week in Bogota choosing and buying used bike and one week more in the surroundings of Bogota while they were doing all the paperwork.
So, personal experiences. I have a very basic Spanish, by the way.
Registering in RUNT really takes 15 min (and costs 4$). That was the easiest part.

Choosing the bike. I've read that bikes here are in awful condition and sellers don't negotiate too much... But it was a bit hard to believe. It's time to confess that i've never seen such bad bikes for such a bad price. After looking to 5 Yamaha XTZ250 (Tenere or Lander, they are basically the same, Tenere is more tourer type), bargaining the price down at maximum 300k peso, i decided to give up and buy a new Honda XRE190 (i didn't like it though). But before to have a look to the last Tenere in my list. Magically this one was in ok condition. Only one owner who did the maintenance at the mechanic shop and didn't even knew where the air filter is located on the bike. I was lucky. Upon a cup of tinto the price was negotiated from 12 400 000 to 11 800 000.

Transfering money. We decided to try swift bank transfer but 1) it takes 2-3 working days, 2) there were things i couldn't understand. For example, the client service in the seller's bank Bancolombia said that he can receive transfer in dollars even if he has an account in pesos but swift simply does not work this way... So, we went to a shopping mall and here in the ATM of Davivienda bank i received all those millions... Davivienda has no fees, ok exchange rate, 2 000 000 max for one transaction and unlimited transactions per day.

After that we went to SIM (the same place where you get RUNT). But before that the seller said he hasn't paid taxes for 2 years (although earlier he said he had, "al dia") but would pay them now in front of me. So we visited Bancolombia before SIM.The price of transfer was completely on him. It was on Thursday and i was told to return to SIM for my tarjeta del propietario (the card of the owner) on Tuesday. Because it takes time for tax information to go through a system. The seller gave me the keys, his SOAT (insurance) and Tecnomecanica for the bike and also his tarjeta del propietario. He said, i can drive now with his card. I don't understand how it works, really. But with his card i was driving for a week and no one stopped me. On Tuesday nothing has been ready yet. Came back on Thursday. Success.

So, one more advice: if you like a bike and decide to buy it, always ask for the papers for taxes, SOAT and Tecno. They're quiet expensive if buy it separately. Tecno costs 130 000, SOAT about 500 000 (for a year and you cannot buy one for a month) and taxes - depends on engine cc, 400 000 -- 500 000.

mak 21 Oct 2018 05:15

Congrats!!! Hope to see you on the road!!!!




Quote:

Originally Posted by korsun (Post 590912)
Well, i finally did it. I spent a week in Bogota choosing and buying used bike and one week more in the surroundings of Bogota while they were doing all the paperwork.
So, personal experiences. I have a very basic Spanish, by the way.
Registering in RUNT really takes 15 min (and costs 4$). That was the easiest part.

Choosing the bike. I've read that bikes here are in awful condition and sellers don't negotiate too much... But it was a bit hard to believe. It's time to confess that i've never seen such bad bikes for such a bad price. After looking to 5 Yamaha XTZ250 (Tenere or Lander, they are basically the same, Tenere is more tourer type), bargaining the price down at maximum 300k peso, i decided to give up and buy a new Honda XRE190 (i didn't like it though). But before to have a look to the last Tenere in my list. Magically this one was in ok condition. Only one owner who did the maintenance at the mechanic shop and didn't even knew where the air filter is located on the bike. I was lucky. Upon a cup of tinto the price was negotiated from 12 400 000 to 11 800 000.

Transfering money. We decided to try swift bank transfer but 1) it takes 2-3 working days, 2) there were things i couldn't understand. For example, the client service in the seller's bank Bancolombia said that he can receive transfer in dollars even if he has an account in pesos but swift simply does not work this way... So, we went to a shopping mall and here in the ATM of Davivienda bank i received all those millions... Davivienda has no fees, ok exchange rate, 2 000 000 max for one transaction and unlimited transactions per day.

After that we went to SIM (the same place where you get RUNT). But before that the seller said he hasn't paid taxes for 2 years (although earlier he said he had, "al dia") but would pay them now in front of me. So we visited Bancolombia before SIM.The price of transfer was completely on him. It was on Thursday and i was told to return to SIM for my tarjeta del propietario (the card of the owner) on Tuesday. Because it takes time for tax information to go through a system. The seller gave me the keys, his SOAT (insurance) and Tecnomecanica for the bike and also his tarjeta del propietario. He said, i can drive now with his card. I don't understand how it works, really. But with his card i was driving for a week and no one stopped me. On Tuesday nothing has been ready yet. Came back on Thursday. Success.

So, one more advice: if you like a bike and decide to buy it, always ask for the papers for taxes, SOAT and Tecno. They're quiet expensive if buy it separately. Tecno costs 130 000, SOAT about 500 000 (for a year and you cannot buy one for a month) and taxes - depends on engine cc, 400 000 -- 500 000.


Jvlianja 22 Oct 2018 15:49

That's another good experience, do not forget to change the oil! enjoy bier

NewbRider 2 Nov 2018 00:15

Looking for some advice regarding this. I have a 2017 Honda xr150 on Colombian plates. Purchased in Chile. I will be in Colombia in 3-4 months and would like to transfer it into my name when I arrive. Obviously the owner will not be with me. And my poder only covers riding, not selling or transferring. Will it be possible to transfer it into my name with out the owner? Or can they make me a poder from Chile to do it, and post it to me?

NewbRider 2 Nov 2018 00:17

Is the RUNT a card? Perhaps they could post me their card and I could have someone pose as them for the transfer process with the card?

Jvlianja 2 Nov 2018 14:57

Hi Newbie, the RUNT (National Registry of Traffic) is a big online database with the information of the cars, motorcycles, drivers and persons registered in it, so if you want to transfer or buy a motorcycle you must be registered in it, can do it with your passport and 5 USD aprox in a Transit Office (Organism of Transit); now if you want to transfer that Honda to your name you need a Mandate (Power), F.U.N, contract of sale signed by both.

NewbRider 2 Nov 2018 19:43

Hi, thanks for the reply. I actually quick replied to my own question (which is a more complicated one) which is now on the first page. If you've got time to check out that question aswel though, I'd be much obliged! Thanks

adventure37 15 Nov 2018 10:36

Buying a 125cc
 
Hey thanks for the info provided here!
We are Going to Colombia in January as a couple for a month and we'd like to buy a couple of 125cc's to tour around the country.
I was wondering if there was actually taxes on this type of bike. I found out Technico is about 30$, RUNT is 4$, but what about SOAT and the taxes? It would be nice to know that kind of info because we have a budget of about 500 euros per bike, but if the paperwork is 200 then it would be a game changer.
Also do you think 125cc is enough for the mountains? We went to Vietnam and Laos last year, did offroad and lots of mountains and it was fine.
And doing all the paperwork seems kind of complicated, we're staying 5 days in Bogota, should we just get the bikes from a dealer so that we don't have to work with two separate owners and registration doesnt take weeks?
Would it be cheaper/faster to get the bikes in Cali?
Thanks!
bier

Jvlianja 15 Nov 2018 14:21

Hi adventure :scooter:, motorcycles from 0 to 125 CC do not pay taxes except for motorcycles registered in Bogotá DC (signaling pay).

New motorcycles do not pay Tecnomecanica Revision during the first two years. Then its cost is 41 USD Approx.


Soat cost (Motorcycles) :
100 to 200 CC: 145 USD, 452.850 COP
200 CC > : 163 USD, 510.750 COP

Taxes (Bogota DC, Capital City)

- 16 USD, 52.000 COP (City Signaling)

- 1.5 % of the Motorcycle cost (exc. IVA)

Example Yamaha FZ 2.0 149 CC, Cost 6.340.000 COP, 1.5 % : 95.100 COP + 52.000 COP, so Tax: 147.100 COP, 47 USD

Other cities and provinces are cheaper than Bogotá.

The cost of the enrollment (Matricula) goes from 120 to 200 USD depending the dealer

So in general, total cost of the papers of a new motorcycle will be around 245-300 USD

Generally most of dealers in cities takes 3 to 4 days to deliver the motorcycle with papers to the new owner.

Maybe a little power will help, a Honda XR 150 or Yamaha Fz will be better.

Greetings friends!

danielB 20 Nov 2018 04:24

buy at least 150cc
 
hey guys I agree with Jvlianja on the motor displacement choice,

because here in Colombia its usual to ride steep roads, I used to have a honda eco (100cc) and with the luggage fixed on the pillion seat it was a struggle to get to the top of the mountains I used to ride at 30 Km/h only with clothes on my bag no camping gear or anything really heavy.

Also small displacement bikes have hard seats as they are not meant to be touring bikes so you will get tired sooner and it`s a must to make stops for resting more often than in bigger comfier bikes.

adventure37 5 Dec 2018 09:29

125cc
 
Hey guys thanks for the reply! We'll be looking at the XR150 then.

"So in general, total cost of the papers of a new motorcycle will be around 245-300 USD "

What about a used one?
Is there any difference with the cost of registration?

Jvlianja 5 Dec 2018 20:33

Hi Adv

Transfer cost of a used one will be around 40-50 USD for a 150 cc motorcycle, of course if the vehicle has Soat and Tecno active (paid taxes). Cheaper indeed and we can check it on line.

:wave:

john1walter 14 Jan 2019 18:35

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Very nice article. Motorcycles are expensive here in Colombia but the resale value is great. (they hold their prices well)
If anyone is interested I am planning to sell my BMW S1000XR (2016) here in Medellin within the next couple of weeks. (please delete if this isn't allowed). It has 8,700 kilometers on it (5,400 miles) and is in great condition. Panniers, top case, tank bag, Nav 5 GPS, everything you need to tour. PM me for photos and more details if interested.

Paul Coen 20 Jan 2019 21:51

Mak, Very informative. Thanks for being so thorough. Am heading for Colombia in Sept/Oct 2019 for a multi-month SA tour. Plan on buying a bike there and your info is very helpful.

mak 23 Jan 2019 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Coen (Post 594813)
Mak, Very informative. Thanks for being so thorough. Am heading for Colombia in Sept/Oct 2019 for a multi-month SA tour. Plan on buying a bike there and your info is very helpful.

Absolutely my pleasure Paul.

I have just sold my bike to another traveller and I did all the paperwork for the sale myself.

Will work on compiling all that information into another post soon.

TahoeRider 24 Jan 2019 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1walter (Post 594490)
Very nice article. Motorcycles are expensive here in Colombia but the resale value is great. (they hold their prices well)
If anyone is interested I am planning to sell my BMW S1000XR (2016) here in Medellin within the next couple of weeks. (please delete if this isn't allowed). It has 8,700 kilometers on it (5,400 miles) and is in great condition. Panniers, top case, tank bag, Nav 5 GPS, everything you need to tour. PM me for photos and more details if interested.

Hola John1Walter!!!

My name is Keith and i am in Medellin now. I am interested in your BMW. I just signed up for this website so it is not letting me send you a pm until i post at least 3 times. I have been here in Medellin for one month now, I live in the US. Please reply to this post or send me a pm. I am in Laureles now.

Thank you...I can send you my whatsapp so we can talk offline..

Gracias!!!
Keith Averill

tomasbird 8 Feb 2019 13:33

Thanks for this detailed guide, it is very helpful. I am planning a trip to South America later this year and I would like to explore Colombia, Ecuador and Peru and I wasn't sure whether I should start in Peru or Colombia, but after reading this guide and several other topics here on the Hubb, I think Colombia will be much easier to buy a motorcycle.

I've got couple of questions and I'm hoping some more knowledgeable people here would have the answers I'm looking for and help me out a bit :). I have two buddies who would like to tag along on this trip, so I don't think we can find 3 motorcycles in a reasonable timespan from the second hand market. We were thinking about buying a brand new ATK TTR 200 in Bogota, it seems there are plenty of dealerships in Bogota - I hope it's not a problem to buy a 3 motorbikes like that, but maybe I should write them an email first and ask about it? Which reminds me that I don't speak a word of spanish, so that's also gonna be interesting. What kind of paperwork do I need with a brand new motorcycle? SOAT, RUNT, registration papers,... what about license plates? Will the dealer help me with any of those? How long does the process take? Couple of days? We would like to get on road asap.

Now, if we manage all that and get the bikes ready, we would like to go south and eventually arrive to Peru (Lima) and well... I don't think we will have time to go back to Colombia to sell the bikes before we leave SA. Is there any legal way to sell the motorcycles in Peru? My friend has a niece living in Lima, maybe she can help us sell the motorcycles (we are not really looking to gain profit or anything, just get rid of the motorcycles legally before we have to leave the continent) - does anyone know what are the import taxes in Peru? Would anybody even be interested in these motorcycles with a good price tag? Or is there any other way, perhaps unfortunately less legal?

Thanks in advance guys! :)

JoHo 8 Feb 2019 16:16

Shops
 
Thanks a lot for this detailed guide.
Do you have any knowledge where there are dealers for motorbikes or are you back yet and want to sell your bike?

Jvlianja 10 Feb 2019 13:52

Hi Joho

Motorcycle dealers are located in the south, center and north of Bogotá (if you are in this city).

AKT, Auteco, Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki close to the 45 and 34 Street over the Caracas Avenue or just check google maps.

:scooter:

iperrett 28 Feb 2019 23:45

Buying SOAT for Colombia
 
Hi, I am travelling with my own bike through South America. I will cross the border from Ecuador to Colombia at Tulcan. Please can anyone tell me how and where to buy SOAT for my bike? Is it possible to do it online before I cross the border? Or do I have to go to an agent, and if so, can any provide a reputable agent with name and address at or close to the border? This seems a simple ask, but nowhere have I found a simple answer. Much appreciated, Isabelle

mak 1 Mar 2019 05:16

Hi Isabelle,

You should be able to get a Colombian SOAT in ipiales.
iOverlander has 3 places listed.

N 0°49.845', W 77°38.164' is the one near the Exito.

All the best!



Quote:

Originally Posted by iperrett (Post 596784)
Hi, I am travelling with my own bike through South America. I will cross the border from Ecuador to Colombia at Tulcan. Please can anyone tell me how and where to buy SOAT for my bike? Is it possible to do it online before I cross the border? Or do I have to go to an agent, and if so, can any provide a reputable agent with name and address at or close to the border? This seems a simple ask, but nowhere have I found a simple answer. Much appreciated, Isabelle


poorbuthappy 1 Mar 2019 05:27

NO DA PAPAYA: Never leave an open door
 
I would like to add a warning here. Expect that the Colombians will make you pay a gringo price when you buy or sell a used vehicle. I'm not talking about the amount you will pay or the amount you will sell.

I know What I'm talking about. I'm married to a Colombian native, and have lived in Colombia. I have bought and sold numerous vehicles, not once my wife's family let me buy or sold a vehicle alone. The problem is due to the fact that the government wants his dues paid and the Colombian try to make someone else pay.

The first time i bought a brand new motorcycle. The dealer assured me that I can insure the motorcycle in case of accident, theft. It turned out that I was told this was not possible without the Colombian cedula. I rode a few thousands motorcycle before getting my cedula.

The dealer lied. When I got my cedula I contacted an insurance broker thrue my wife's best friend daughter to get health coverage. I told her that I was glad that I could also get insurance coverage for the motorcycle and healthcare.

She replied this is not true, and she showed me that a passport in an accepted ID to have any kind of insurance coverage.

To insure the motorcycle, as I had some KM on it I had to take it to company that the motorcycle could be certified has no damage afterward a lawyer wrote a certification that there was not any holding of any kind. The insurance paid for that.

And when is vehicle is sold, the seller must make sure that a lawyer must certify a clearance that the seller is no longer the owner, or burry the dam vehicle so it would be impossible to use the datos of the seller and charge him.

mak 5 Mar 2019 11:23

Really sorry to hear about your experience.
Are you registered in the RUNT?

But as an update to this thread.. I did successfully sell the motorcycle a month ago.. I'm back home in India right now.

Before selling the motorcycle. I had to to the Technico mechanica as well as the SOAT (insurance). as well as impuestos(taxes)

I was able to do both myself without any agent. I'll put up a detailed post on that soon.

I then helped the new owner(another foreign traveller) get registered in the RUNT.

I then sold the bike to him. Hopefully i'll post up that thread quickly..


Quote:

Originally Posted by poorbuthappy (Post 596790)
I would like to add a warning here. Expect that the Colombians will make you pay a gringo price when you buy or sell a used vehicle. I'm not talking about the amount you will pay or the amount you will sell.

I know What I'm talking about. I'm married to a Colombian native, and have lived in Colombia. I have bought and sold numerous vehicles, not once my wife's family let me buy or sold a vehicle alone. The problem is due to the fact that the government wants his dues paid and the Colombian try to make someone else pay.

The first time i bought a brand new motorcycle. The dealer assured me that I can insure the motorcycle in case of accident, theft. It turned out that I was told this was not possible without the Colombian cedula. I rode a few thousands motorcycle before getting my cedula.

The dealer lied. When I got my cedula I contacted an insurance broker thrue my wife's best friend daughter to get health coverage. I told her that I was glad that I could also get insurance coverage for the motorcycle and healthcare.

She replied this is not true, and she showed me that a passport in an accepted ID to have any kind of insurance coverage.

To insure the motorcycle, as I had some KM on it I had to take it to company that the motorcycle could be certified has no damage afterward a lawyer wrote a certification that there was not any holding of any kind. The insurance paid for that.

And when is vehicle is sold, the seller must make sure that a lawyer must certify a clearance that the seller is no longer the owner, or burry the dam vehicle so it would be impossible to use the datos of the seller and charge him.


Microchoveur 5 Mar 2019 14:11

Hey guys, I'm currently in Bogota and looking to buy a motorbike.

It seems to tiring to find a used one that I think I'll just get a new XRE 300. I'm afraid it's not going to be powerful enough for Patagonia long highways but well, more powerful models are so expensive.

poorbuthappy 11 Mar 2019 23:32

Ad rider in Colombia is a small world. There is a motorcycle shop in Buga that ad riders from all over Colombia like to hang around to have their motorcycle serviced.

He sometimes has motorcycles in consignation for sale. I sold one to him 3 years ago. I have seem BMW 1200 GS, and a Ducati 1200. The owner is Begium, the manager is a real pro.

I'm currently in Mexico, but I will fly to Montreal thursday, the 26th I will be home in Vancouver. I will contact him then, to see what he has anything interesting avaiable and let you know.

fuzzems 6 Aug 2019 18:26

@poorbuthappy, do you have an (internet)address and contact details of the shop you mention?

Me and my mate are planning for a 4 month trip from Colombia to south of argentina in October, and are now pondering the possibility to buy locally instead of airfreight from the Netherlands...
Maybe the Belgian owner even speaks a little word in dutch :), since our spanish is.... Uhmmm... not really existing

Cheers! Christaan

Nttra 7 Aug 2019 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by poorbuthappy (Post 597334)
Ad rider in Colombia is a small world. There is a motorcycle shop in Buga that ad riders from all over Colombia like to hang around to have their motorcycle serviced.

He sometimes has motorcycles in consignation for sale. I sold one to him 3 years ago. I have seem BMW 1200 GS, and a Ducati 1200. The owner is Begium, the manager is a real pro.

I'm currently in Mexico, but I will fly to Montreal thursday, the 26th I will be home in Vancouver. I will contact him then, to see what he has anything interesting avaiable and let you know.

I'm interested in the contact info of this MotoShop in Buga. I'm planning to arrive in Cali in a couple of months and I'm actively looking for a bike tu buy.
Thanks!

NewbRider 11 Oct 2019 00:21

I'd just like to chuck another piece of advice on this topic. If you buy in Colombia, take with you an extra copy of the transfer forms and a forma contraco compraventa. This way, if you want to sell it to another foreigner let's say in Chile, the paperwork will be much easier for the new owner when they arrive in Colombia.

Also, wherever a bike is from is where you must transfer the paperwork (if it's a Medellín bike, gotta do the transfer in Medellín, same goes for paying the taxes).

So if you sell it in Chile, give the new owner a "poder" to ride the bike, fill out the transfer forms, sign and fingerprint them but don't date them. New owner gets to Colombia, into the simit office, transfer is done.

Erik_G 7 Dec 2019 16:17

Thanks a lot to both of the contributors.
It is great to have words from real experiences.
(Compared to opinoins, guesse and asumptions).

Now we know that it works.
And this is a good option for the future.

Thanks


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amsternadian 13 Dec 2019 16:08

I am hoping to buy two motorcycles this coming week in bogota (royal enfield Himalayan!) and this write-up is helping me a lot! We are planning on driving south to chile/Argentina and selling it there. My question however is... If we buy the bikes here in colombia with a soat and technico mechanico valid until, let's say June 2020. Will the person buying our bikes and riding to colombia not be able to cross the border because the soat and technico mechanico have expired?

I'm asking this because if I understand correctly you cannot ride in colombia unless the soat and TM are valid but you also need to buy new soat and TM in the place where it was originally purchased from (in this case bogota). Is this correct?

Thanks in advance! bier

NewbRider 14 Dec 2019 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by amsternadian (Post 606983)
I am hoping to buy two motorcycles this coming week in bogota (royal enfield Himalayan!) and this write-up is helping me a lot! We are planning on driving south to chile/Argentina and selling it there. My question however is... If we buy the bikes here in colombia with a soat and technico mechanico valid until, let's say June 2020. Will the person buying our bikes and riding to colombia not be able to cross the border because the soat and technico mechanico have expired?

I'm asking this because if I understand correctly you cannot ride in colombia unless the soat and TM are valid but you also need to buy new soat and TM in the place where it was originally purchased from (in this case bogota). Is this correct?

Thanks in advance! bier

No to all of that. They can enter without soat and técnico and they can buy both anywhere in Colombia.

amsternadian 15 Dec 2019 23:50

Ok great that's a relief!

Sorry for asking even more questions I'm trying to look for answers on the forum but can't find any up to date info! We are planning on buying the bikes in colombia and then driving to chile where we want to sell them. I have heard a couple of times now that you can't sell a colombian motorcycle in chile unless it's from 2019 or newer. Is that true? I'm looking at a 2017 himalayan right now but if that's the case it would a deal breaker..

Thanks again! :clap:

NewbRider 16 Dec 2019 01:27

Don't worry at all, it's only by asking that you and future readers will know.

OK, this is your likely scenario : you'll sell the bikes to other travellers.

In which case you don't transfer the ownership IN Chile. You give them power of attorney over the bikes using a carta poder in a notaria. So you don't import the bikes into Chile (which is what you're referring to with the 2019+ rule).

So it goes like this: buy the bikes in Colombia. As I mentioned in this post before get a second copy of the transfer document forms from the transit office in Colombia. When you're ready to sell, advertise them here or on Facebook or whatever.

Go with the buyer to a notary in Chile (this can also be done without the buyer present but will require good Spanish). At the notary make up a carta poder (power of attorney document). Also fill out the transfer documents, sign and fingerprint them but don't date them. The new oner rides the bikes to Colombia (including any and all countries along the way) with the carta poder. When they reach Colombia they go into the transfer office and use the transfer documents you've already filled and signed to transfer the bikes to their names.

NOTES : MAKE SURE YOU GET THE PODER APOSTILLED IN THE MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS. This takes 5 minutes but it's essential.

NewbRider 16 Dec 2019 01:33

Also a PS: I know I shouldn't say it if you've got your heart set on a himalayan... But really for south America consider an XRE300 or a Tenere 250...because, well, they're not crap (no offence RE owners)

amsternadian 16 Dec 2019 06:07

Thank you for the great info newbrider! That's all my questions answered!

PS. I have been looking at those as well but availability seems low right now! I'm going to search more tomorrow and hopefully test drive a tenere 250 if possible!

Erik_G 20 Dec 2019 16:00

RE Himalayan
 
The reality is the proof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmjCG8AyW0Q

NewbRider 20 Dec 2019 22:26

It sure is:

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/motor...wo-pieces.html

LM 7 Jan 2020 19:04

Hi NewbRider
Thanks for the clear and detailed explanations on how to buy a bike in Colombia and sell it in Chile. My plans go in the opposite direction. I have found a KTM in Chile and would like to sell it in Colombia after cruising SA. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to proceed. Regards from BCN.
Regarding the RE Himalayan I must say I took one of those through Northen India (Ladak) Nepal, China, Tibet, Bhutan and it performed incredibly well. Robust as hell.

NewbRider 7 Jan 2020 20:54

Hey mate, happy to help. But need more detailed info. Chilean bike or foreign bike? But basically, all the info here applies the same going the other way.

Falafelpup 25 Aug 2023 13:43

Hey guys, thanks for all the info!
I'm heading to Colombia in a week (probably Bogota!) and will follow all these steps to buy a bike!
Super excited for the trip, my plan is to start in Colombia, spend at least 3 weeks there and then make my way down to Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia and then sell it there somewhere again after 3 months :-)


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