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lilbloody 11 Jun 2015 04:41

Bike weight has no bearing on the charge. Dimensions make no difference either. More than likely that cost is sans "dangerous goods handling"..


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billkidd 11 Jun 2015 05:07

Nice one! Keep us posted.

Bartjeman 15 Jun 2015 16:11

Ferry Schedule
 
It looks like this ferry will be making a few trips.
San Blas Ferry - Home, Portobelo, Cartagena, San Blas, Panama, Columbien

juanvaldez650 15 Jun 2015 19:35

That one is about $1k for bike and rider.

lilbloody 25 Jun 2015 20:27

YEAH!! Writing from Cartegena..
 
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Originally Posted by lilbloody (Post 507709)
Well, my dear virtual friends..

I have some news I think you guys will find interesting.

Quite literally within 20 minutes of confirming my plans to fly my bike to Bogota I got word from the owner of Mamallena Hostel here in Panama City (who knows many of the sailboat captains and whose staff coordinates San Blas sailing trips) that the captain of the Wildcard - a 60-footer that used to take bikes fairly regularly - has agreed to take my bike on a voyage to Colombia scheduled for June 18.

I have not been able to figure out why so many boats have stopped carrying bikes.. so many mixed messages.. but hell.. I think this may be good news for all of us... if of course this works out! Fingers crossed I don't get sent back the way I came once I get to Cartagena..

bier

I will of course keep you all posted. xx

Heather

http://facebook.com/thefrighteningandbeautiful
In Search of the Frightening and Beautiful

So I made it to Cartegena via the Wildcard, sans glitch. No export/import problems, the food was great, the captain was professional and my bike was not dropped into the sea. I did get a DIJ inspection in Panama City which proved to be a godsend, as we were visited by the police after loading the bikes and I'm pretty sure they would have either forced us to unload or insisted on "fixit" cash if we hadn't had all the paperwork in order (DIJ/Panamanian import permit/Panamanian insurance/passport copy/title). Not sure how it works going from Colombia to Panama..

I highly **highly*** recommend this boat as an option. It's smaller than the Steel Rat but it's steel hulled and very stable - stable enough for 3 bikes (including an R1100) and the sea sickness wasn't a major issue (for most, anyway..).

To book, contact Mamallena Hostel in Panama:
info@mamallena.com
507-393-6611 / 507-6676-6163
They have a hostel in Cartegena as well.

Feel free to shoot me a message if you guys have any questions. Pics are on my FB page: https://www.facebook.com/TheFrighteningAndBeautiful

Cheers everybody,
Heather

billkidd 26 Jun 2015 05:38

Excellent news. Can you confirm that the same boat transports bike the other way - to Panama from Cartegena. Thanks .

lilbloody 26 Jun 2015 11:59

It does. You'll need to figure out the paperwork for the bike. They take care of the immigration part for yourself.


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motomon 26 Jun 2015 21:36

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Originally Posted by lilbloody (Post 508919)
It does. You'll need to figure out the paperwork for the bike. They take care of the immigration part for yourself.


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I am delighted that there is a decent alternative since the Stahlratte (4 trips including Cuba) is not in service now. I definitely did not want to take the Independence as I had one miserable trip with them.
Actually, I had already decided to leave my bike in Quito at a shop I trust and highly recommend. I will fly back to Michigan for a brief family reunion. I will then use Lulu's Stahlratte in the Fall.

I had serious charging issues and replaced major components on my way to Quito from Santiago. The local HUBB folks suggested going to the Suzuki, but I decided to return to Willy at City Motosport. He found the problem of a bad switch between the thermostat and radiator fan right away. The only challenge was getting the needed parts from the dealer, Comandato, who were terrible. I ended up telling them that I have worked for Yamaha, BMW, Harley-Davidson, and Ford in 14+ countries besides the US and have never seen such a poor parts process. After four trips there, I finally got one of two needed parts from them and Willy found the other somewhere else.

By the way all the many official (including the president) motorcycle escort riders bring their work and personal BMW's, Suzuki's, Honda's, etc. to "Chilly Willy," because they know and trust him. This a strong recommendation in my book. So, even if you only need to do some basic maintenance, on your own there, I strongly recommend him. He charges motorcycle travelers VERY reasonable rates and is an all around great fun guy.
This was an unpaid non-political endorsement,
Chris/motomon "Pinche Gringo Loco"

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TaosTraveler 2 Jul 2015 02:17

Costa Rica to Columbia
 
It sounds as if the government of Panama is the problem with this issue. Has anyone considered bypassing Panama altogether and shipping a bike from Costa Rica to Columbia or vice versa?

Grant Johnson 2 Jul 2015 08:07

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Originally Posted by TaosTraveler (Post 509430)
It sounds as if the government of Panama is the problem with this issue. Has anyone considered bypassing Panama altogether and shipping a bike from Costa Rica to Columbia or vice versa?

Not a bad idea, BUT I've heard of no one shipping from CR to COlombia (The Colombians are sensitive about the spelling of their countries name)

Certainly worth checking out on the way down, (volunteers? :D) San Jose has a good airport and there are probably flights to Bogota regularly. MAY not have much cargo capacity or infrastructure for bikes, but you never know - it might be easy!

mollydog 2 Jul 2015 18:09

The Costa Rica option could be worth looking into. Eons ago, THE WAY to get past the Darien was to go via Costa Rica. As a back packer I did this in the early 70's ... and saved a bundle over flying from Panama to Bogota.

I've NO IDEA what the situation is now, but I'm guessing bigger, better planes are being flown? Perhaps they can fly small bikes? Or ... perhaps there is ship traffic from Caribbean side of C.R. to Colombia?

I flew from San Jose, C.R. to the Colombian island of Providencia, out in the Caribbean but near to C.R. Lovely island. NO tourism back then. Stayed one day, then flew out to Bogota.

In the 70's prices (passenger only)
S.J. to Providencia : $30 usd
Providencia to Bogota: $30

It was triple that cost to fly Pan to Col ...

NOW? Who knows, but maybe worth a look as an alternative to the inflated
situation in Panama/Colombia.

m37charlie 4 Jul 2015 17:14

I corresponded with the San Blas Ferry. They are doing 2 round trips a month (about every 2 weeks). Their prices are high - they quoted me $4000 for my Unimog camper. I hope they make a lot of money and stay in business.

Charlie

VicMitch 6 Jul 2015 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 509482)
The Costa Rica option could be worth looking into. Eons ago, THE WAY to get past the Darien was to go via Costa Rica. As a back packer I did this in the early 70's ... and saved a bundle over flying from Panama to Bogota.

I've NO IDEA what the situation is now, but I'm guessing bigger, better planes are being flown? Perhaps they can fly small bikes? Or ... perhaps there is ship traffic from Caribbean side of C.R. to Colombia?

I flew from San Jose, C.R. to the Colombian island of Providencia, out in the Caribbean but near to C.R. Lovely island. NO tourism back then. Stayed one day, then flew out to Bogota.

In the 70's prices (passenger only)
S.J. to Providencia : $30 usd
Providencia to Bogota: $30

It was triple that cost to fly Pan to Col ...

NOW? Who knows, but maybe worth a look as an alternative to the inflated
situation in Panama/Colombia.

In the late '80s I flew from Guatemala to the Colombian island of San Adres, then to Cali for very cheap. i had driven down to Nicaragua and then to Belize in an ex NYC yellow taxi that I sold in Orange Walk Belize for $300. Took the bus to Guat city and hopped a plane. Not so easy with a bike though.

VicMitch 6 Jul 2015 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by m37charlie (Post 509643)
I corresponded with the San Blas Ferry. They are doing 2 round trips a month (about every 2 weeks). Their prices are high - they quoted me $4000 for my Unimog camper. I hope they make a lot of money and stay in business.

Charlie

Their prices are outrageous, sure Ferry Express was too cheap but this guy is charging 3 times the price for a piece of crap boat.

Tony LEE 7 Jul 2015 01:13

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Originally Posted by VicMitch (Post 509836)
Their prices are outrageous, sure Ferry Express was too cheap but this guy is charging 3 times the price for a piece of crap boat.

Doesn't matter too much what the boat is like as long as it gets there. Outrageous as a superlative is only applicable if there is reasonably-priced competition to compare it with. If it is take it or leave it, some travellers might find it very reasonable.

Previous owners of our camper - 5 1/2 tonnes - paid $3500 for RoRo across the Gap a couple of years ago and a Unimog is likely heavier.


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