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martinholstberg 12 Dec 2015 19:51

Buying american plated bike in Colombia
 
I'm currently in Medellin about to embark on a moto trip down through South America. I've been looking at a Suzuki DR 650. It's on American plates. Will this be a problem for me or maybe an advantage? Anybody knows what papers I need to have everything in order? Any knowledge on the area is greatly appreciated:)

Tony LEE 13 Dec 2015 02:00

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Originally Posted by martinholstberg (Post 523764)
I'm currently in Medellin about to embark on a moto trip down through South America. I've been looking at a Suzuki DR 650. It's on American plates. Will this be a problem for me or maybe an advantage? Anybody knows what papers I need to have everything in order? Any knowledge on the area is greatly appreciated:)

Not the same one as in this topic is it

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...buy-bike-84710

peter-denmark 18 Dec 2015 08:41

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Originally Posted by martinholstberg (Post 523764)
I'm currently in Medellin about to embark on a moto trip down through South America. I've been looking at a Suzuki DR 650. It's on American plates. Will this be a problem for me or maybe an advantage? Anybody knows what papers I need to have everything in order? Any knowledge on the area is greatly appreciated:)

I think you will get through all of SA with homemade papers. As long as you dont take the bike back to the states and you buy insurance along the way you will be fine.

So just redo the papers and put your name on them. Laminate them for a more official look ;)

Best regards Peter

docsherlock 18 Dec 2015 13:22

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Originally Posted by peter-denmark (Post 524296)
I think you will get through all of SA with homemade papers. As long as you dont take the bike back to the states and you buy insurance along the way you will be fine.

So just redo the papers and put your name on them. Laminate them for a more official look ;)

Best regards Peter

Except the insurance won't be valid if he needs to claim.
And if the hooky papers are rumbled he could end up in jail somewhere 'orrible accused of theft.
And he won't easily be able to sell the bike after his trip, or export it anywhere.
What could possibly go wrong??

kawazoki 25 Dec 2015 00:19

Go for it ...and just ride like you stole it...it is your chance...don't ask for advice..play by your ear.Photo shop is a great tool..as I went from Europe to Japan on a borrowed licence plate from a neighbour and registration made by photo shop ...hey..got carnet for it too........who's rules are you following..???

Safe ride my friend................................kawazoki

xfiltrate 25 Dec 2015 23:55

To your own self be true
 
keepcalm

If you can live with the possibility of running over a small child who
just happened to run out in front of you as you were avoiding a
barking dog and you can just speed away without stopping to assist that
child who may be bleeding to death, then by all means photoshop
your title!

A photoshopped title invalidates any insurance you may have purchased, and makes the importation of the bike you are riding into a foreign country illegal... if you can live with all this, then you have no conscience nor concern for your fellow man..... just photoshop away and keep running away so you don't get caught , never mind what might happen to the dying child or whatever other damage you do.

Think about it!

"Kawazoki" - The only way you could possibly give the advice you give here is if you sincerely believe everyone else does the same as you suggest by being so irresponsible as to photoshop titles and ride with fake plates..... Let me assure you - most people are responsible, most people abide by the regulations and most people do not endanger others by not having valid insurance.... Who are your friends, would they offer the same advice as you offer here? If so, get new friends, get a life and join humanity!

xfiltrate

docsherlock 26 Dec 2015 18:51

See xfiltrate's very good post above.
And you wonder why many riders from first world countries are despised and ripped off in some countries? doh

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Originally Posted by kawazoki (Post 524842)
Go for it ...and just ride like you stole it...it is your chance...don't ask for advice..play by your ear.Photo shop is a great tool..as I went from Europe to Japan on a borrowed licence plate from a neighbour and registration made by photo shop ...hey..got carnet for it too........who's rules are you following..???

Safe ride my friend................................kawazoki


kawazoki 27 Dec 2015 01:14

Please don't give me that sad story about child bleeding to death...and yeas continue to advise as about how is life to be lived...looks like I can learn from you...
Just drive normally and obey traffic lows and no child is going to bleed to death
And my advice to you ..Please watch less TV

Ride safe.

kawazoki 27 Dec 2015 01:18

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Originally Posted by docsherlock (Post 524967)
See xfiltrate's very good post above.
And you wonder why many riders from first world countries are despised and ripped off in some countries? doh

I think you got this wrong ...it is going this way..

And you wonder why many riders from USA and Canada are despised and ripped off in some countries?

Haw a good night my friend

docsherlock 27 Dec 2015 13:35

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Originally Posted by kawazoki (Post 524992)
I think you got this wrong ...it is going this way..

And you wonder why many riders from USA and Canada are despised and ripped off in some countries?

Haw a good night my friend

Mate,

Anyone from HICs (as opposed to LMICs) is seen as fair game in LMICs to many people.

Do the sort of stuff you are advocating and it makes it worse for everyone.

TV - haven't owned one for years, don't watch it.

But I have spent a big part of my career living and working in LMICs....

docsherlock 27 Dec 2015 13:47

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Originally Posted by kawazoki (Post 524991)
Please don't give me that sad story about child bleeding to death...and yeas continue to advise as about how is life to be lived...looks like I can learn from you...
Just drive normally and obey traffic lows and no child is going to bleed to death
And my advice to you ..Please watch less TV

Ride safe.

You don't really understand the concept of 'risk', do you?

farqhuar 27 Dec 2015 14:58

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Originally Posted by docsherlock (Post 525017)
You don't really understand the concept of 'risk', do you?

The real risk of riding in LMICs is to yourself, not others. In general, travellers from HICs ride/drive in LMICs in a much more risk averse fashion than the locals.

However, having the correct paperwork and insurance is not going to magically repair the missing limb you lost when a local driver/rider drove towards you on the wrong side of the road, nor is it going to save the life of the child you ran over when swerving to avoid an animal. Having correct vehicle insurance will not assist you with medical expenses either - that is something which is covered by your travel insurance

Many locals will attempt to flee the scene after having killed or injured a 3rd party and the local police know how to deal with these situations - typically by negotiating a (relatively small by HIC standards) payment to the victim's family, combined with a contribution to the local constabulary benevolent society.


As for Xfiltrate's statement '....... and most people do not endanger others by not having valid insurance ..........', I fail to see the logic. Exactly how does not having valid vehicle insurance endanger others, given that travellers from HICs, especially motorcycle riders, are much less likely to cause serious injury to others than their local equivalents, and that the cost of health care is much less in LMICs and not a significant expense for a traveller in the highly unlikely event of such an accident scenario occuring?

farqhuar 27 Dec 2015 15:02

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Originally Posted by docsherlock (Post 525017)
You don't really understand the concept of 'risk', do you?

Oh, and for a precise definition, risk = probability of an event occuring * severity of outcome.

docsherlock 27 Dec 2015 21:46

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Originally Posted by farqhuar (Post 525024)
Oh, and for a precise definition, risk = probability of an event occuring * severity of outcome.

Nope, that is not the definition of risk. :rolleyes2:

Nice try, though.

farqhuar 28 Dec 2015 10:52

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Originally Posted by docsherlock (Post 525045)
Nope, that is not the definition of risk. :rolleyes2:

Nice try, though.

Er, actually it is.

How about you show me yours, I've shown you mine.


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