to buy a bike 150-200cc in Paraguay
 

Has anyone has any experience in buying a bike 150-200cc as a foreigner in Paraguay??
Do let me know. Thanks guys.
cheers,
kamil

Hey Kamil,

I'm going to try to do the same thing in a few weeks. How was you experience, did you succeed? Take care!

Hey, sorry I thought you posted this thread 2 years ago but that was your join date, I just saw you posted it the same day as me :). Anyway, when will you be in Paraguay? I was thinking that maybe we could join forces? I'll be arriving in Asuncion the 12th.

Hi Kamil and Dutchguy,

We, two friends and I, are now in Ciudad del Este, Paraguay, and we are trying the same thing. A girl from the turist info said that it is impossible to buy a bike in Paraguay and cross any border of another country in SA, because we are not Paraguayn citizens. But we are not giving up. Maybe it is possible and we like to know your experience. Please tell us if you know more!
Kind Regards

Hey Gustavo,

I asked for this at the dealer I'm buying my bike at and he never heard of such a thing. He then called someone to ask if it was forbidden to "export" bikes for foreigners and he was told it was not the case. He seemed like an honest guy, he was very friendly and trying to help me decide which was the best bike for me to buy, even if it was a cheaper one. I decided to just try it and worst case scenario I'll have to bribe a few customs officers, which shouldn't be a problem in Paraguay from what I've heard hehe (I read that there is actually no checking at the border at all at ciudad de este because the amount of traffic is just insane?). Anyway. I should be the proud owner of a brand new Kenton Eagle 200 in a few days, yeah baby :thumbup1:.

I'll buy it from a dealer from Chacomer, they are the #1 bike producer & seller in Paraguay, so I figured they should be pretty reliable and it should be easy to get spare parts if necessary. The bike itself cost me 6.3M guarani (about 1250 euro), there were cheaper ones that also looked very good (Kenton 150R, 4.5M guarani) but I just liked this model so I figured I should spent a little more (still very cheap imho) to get the one I liked best. Oh and you also get a free riding course, two free (obligatory if you want to keep your 6 month guarantee) maintenance check-ups, helmet, reflective vest and a can of oil, if I understood everything correctly haha. The process of officially registering the bike will take 20-30 days, but you can use it in the mean time to ride around in Paraguay (or just travel by bus to other destinations and pick up your bike later on). I was told it's also possible to insure the bike if it has not been officially registered as yours yet, but I should get more info on that in a couple of days. It seems like a pretty good deal to me, fingers crossed :).

To add to the post above, I also send a mail to Klein Motos in Asuncion, which is often referred to on this site, and they replied the following:

Buenos dias, no existe ninguna restriccion con la compra o el transito de motocicletas registradas en Paraguay. El unico incoveniente es que los tramites de registro de la motocicleta se demoran aproximadamente un mes y sin eso no puedes entrar en otro pais.

   
atte.
Douglas Borges
KLEIN MOTOS

It would seem,
 

That the only thing you have to do know is just hang out for a month, get those papers in order and then head out!

I once stayed in Asuscion for about 3 weeks, entered into Paraguay via Ciudad del Este, and exited the same way. Never paid for my visa (required as an American). The amount of traffic through that city is incredible.

--Alex

150 CC Leopard
 

Hi Dutchguy and others,

Congratz with your bike, nice one. With some help of an Czeck lawer we bought 3 bikes (150 CC Leopard) for 3 Million Gurani. We get the papers and the plate in less than a week because we arranged the paperwork at an office directly. We leave for Argentina next week!

Good Luck!

Thanks, you too. Can you please elaborate what you did to get those papers so fast? Have a nice trip! :)

Any luck so far?
 

Hey Dutchguy,

Any luck so far?

I'm very curious because I'm hoping to do the same next year.

Grz.

was in foz a few days ago and spoke to a german guy who bought a leopard 125cc ,got bike in two days and plate in one week and even got a paraguia driving licence for $10.00 seems very easy crossing the border no problem at all

Buying Bikes In Paraguay
 

when the guys from the bike shops tell you there's nothing wrong to sell bikes to foreigns they are right, but the problem is that you should have a driving licence and the imigrant identity from paraguay, in this case you should try to buy a bike in ciudad del este that's border with Brazil(Iguazu), the reason is that the guys from ciudad del este know exactly what the border control officers ask when you cross from one country to the other and what you need to stay in another country with the bike, I saw the same germain guy that MARIO AGIUS saw with his bike.
When you buy the bike they give you the "whole package" with ID and driving licence, can you believe that!!! I'm from Iguazu and I've got yamaha with UK plate, a taiga 125cc brand new bought for 900 dolars with all the paperwork and a Brazilian car, if you're thinking about buying in Paraguay do let me know so I can give you some help

New honda
 

That sounds good!!

So if I would buy a bike in Paraguay I get a Paraguay driving license and the paperwork with it so that I can cross all the Americas?

I was thinking of buying a new honda XR125L at Diesa (official importer of honda) in Asuncion but they do not answer my (English) mail.

Re. take2dsky
 

Hey kamil, that's what they usually do in paraguay, of course not the main dealers but all the garages in general, if you check above there's a post from mario agius about a germain guy who bought a leopard 125cc, driving license and ID, I knew it was very easy to do so, but the guy just couldn't speak any spanish and a very badly english, that's why I was surprised.

If you get interested just let me know and I can give a look when I pass in front of a bike shop in paraguay so you can go straight to the point and know exactly how much you'll spend, the only problem is that you may have to wait for a few days till everything is done but I believe that shoudn't be a big problem.

cheers!!

Expected time to get bike processed in Paraguay
 

Hi all,

I´ve been reading through this thread and noticed it is fairly recent, and would appreciate ANY feedback that anyone might have on their recent experiences buying a motorcycle in Paraguay as I will be arriving there in 2 weeks from Brazil and plan to do the same.

I have heard to budget for about a month´s wait in order to have everything processed...has anyone found a way to speed this process up? Also, what kind of license is needed to drive a bike in Paraguay and some of the surrounding countries (if any foreigner has the experience of being stopped by Police). Lastly, leaving the country - how did people fair leaving Paraguay as foreigners with their bikes?

Un mil de gracias a quien pueda ayudar!

David

Recent enough
 

Hey David,

I'm hoping to do the same in december, so here are my recent experiences.

I have been mailing with the honda importer in Paraguay about buying a new honda there. He confirmed that it will take about one month or more to have the registration/paperwork done. I was in doubt about wether buying in Paraguay or Chili in December, I going for Chili because of the fact that I don't see myself hanging out in Paraguay waiting for a month.

Here's the respons:

Estimado Lucien:

El modelo que Ud. está preguntando XR125L, estamos comercializando en USD 2.900,oo con iva (Impuesto al Valor Agregado) incluido.

Podemos comercializar esta motocicleta a los extranjeros o turistas. No tenemos inconvenientes de que los documentos de ventas salga a vuestro nombre. No obstante, existe un trámite posterior que consiste en matricular la motocicleta en el Registro Único del Automotor, cuyo trámite es por lo general más largo que tarda 30 días o más. Los documentos de esta matriculación también puede salir a vuestro nombre, pero le aclaro de que este trámite no lo hacemos nosotros, así como también en el precio de la moto no está contemplado dicho costo (que es Aproximadamente USD 150,oo si se gestiona a través de una escribanía) y queda a cargo de cada cliente gestionarlo.

Cualquier duda adicional que tenga, estoy nuevamente a su disposición.

Atte.




I have a dutch website about buying in Paraguay, perhaps you can translate it with google: motor kopen in Paraguay - Wereldwijzer Reis Forums


Hope this helps.

Greetings,

Lucien

It sounds all so promising
 

Well, this thread is certainly interesting...no reply so for months now... I guess everyone succeeded in buying the "full package". I would need such, meaning. Paperwork and driver's license to go over borders into Bolivia, Brazil, Peru etc.

Could you guys elaborate on your success or failure stories...thanks for your help... I am arriving in Ciudad del Este in about two weeks time and planning to go for it there

Met a belgian guy on a 200 cc chinese bike bought and registered in Paraguay here in Bolivia. Didnt seem to have any problem so far, and was planning to go to Mexico with it. He waited for one month for the paperwork and relaxed in a holidays town on the side of a lake while waiting for the work to be done. Cost of the bike (new) and papers was around 1000 USD.

More or less the same boat as you.. any updates?
 

Hey mate.. I'm on the search for a bike & more importantly licence as well, looks like we're in a similar boat. What's been your experience so far? I'm gonna do a bit more research and then quite possibly start making my way to Paraguay if this all seems to work!

Let me know how you've got on so far. I might even end up being in Paraguay at the same time as you.


Hey Vorteks, by any chance do you know what licence the guy had?

Cheers!
Cheers, Russell.

Thanks but I'm looking for something bigger, a 250cc dirt bike of some kind.

Cheers.

Paraguayan one i think, but i m unsure...

Hey man, I was reading up on buying a bike in SA. I was hoping you could help me with some info. I´m a new user; I can´t send a message to you. If you can please PM me.

Thanks
Phil

buying in PY
 

Hi PHil,

If you're planning to get a bike in Paraguay I can help you on that, I've done already a few times, if you check the posts on this thread, "Russel Bowden"got a 250cc in Paraguay and all the paperwrok was legal, it took about 2 weeks to get everything done. I live in Foz do Iguaçu and would be pleased to help you.

Check his (Russel Bowden) blog: Making it up on a motorbike. | China's 2 wheeled revenge on Latin America.

Also check my blog for some help: Bikers Help Desk

It would be good if you know wich bike you want so things can go faster.

Cheers
Rod

Buying in Paraguay.
 

Hi Phil, Yep I bought a 250cc Chinese "Star Amazonas 250" enduro knock off in Paraguay. Here are some things you need to know about buying in Paraguay:

*You will pay a bit more for a bike
*You don't need any kind of "export permit" to leave with the bike (at least not into Brasil, which I did) and your registration doesn't expire. (unlike bikes from Chile)
*I got my "Cedula Verde" with the bike's plates from the dealer, and got a forged "Habilitacion" card, because the real thing was going to take more time and I wanted to leave.
*Between paying for the bike and getting it with all it's paperwork and plates etc was roughly 10 days from memory. It would have taken 3 weeks+ but I paid a bit extra for faster service.

If you're like me and are on a small budget, a chinese bike can be just fine. Lots of people complain about the engines giving out, if you're not over-loaded and you're gentle and patient up hills etc it will be just fine. My bike just clicked over 9,000KM yesterday and I expect to sell it with around 12-13K in Santiago in a month or two.

Good luck with everything.

Hi, I am in Necochea Argentina and wish to sell my bike a Suzuki 650 Vstrom all kitted out with panniers and top box. It is a good touring bike and has many extras. New chain and sprockets, new plugs, serviced regularly, might need a new front tyre. I can supply and transfer California ownership papers. I want $3500 USD this is Half its worth. Has 60.000ks great bike to ride.
Alan email me obrienbolts@hotmail.com

This threads years old mate; you should head over to:-

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...r-sale-wanted/

Buying and Registering a Motorbike in Paraguay
 

I´m just in the process of buying a motorbike in Asuncion, paraguay and thought I´d try to tidy things up with the process for some people that would like to also do it. Firstly for clarity I´m Australian (with an Australian Licence) travelling on a British Passport, and my Spanish is very poor but I´m learning.

1: If you have an International Drivers Licence you do not need to get a resident card from Immigration. This International Drivers Licence must have the stamp for motorbikes.

2: Go buy a bike. I only have advice for new bikes. I bought a Kenton GL 150cc from Chacomer on Cerro Cora between Tacuari and Antequera. It cost around 800USD. I would photocopy or scan to email all the paperwork you recieve here.
You can drive around for a couple of days without number plates at this stage.

3: Now you need to head to the Motor Registary. It´s next to the Regional Bank on the corner of Estrella and Chile. Bring 4 photocopies of your passport and 4 copies of the paperwork from the sale of the bike. On level three of the registary you go left from the lifts then left in the second room where you need to show the Originals and get the copies stamped and signed by a Notiary. Costs around 30,000.

4:With these you cross the corridor where you will get further forms to fill out in carbon copies. No one handles money here. Then you take these down the corridor to a room on the right where you will receive three white forms. Still no money changes hands here.

5:Now you take these 3 forms to the bank to pay for the whole process. I used *ITAU Pago* on Olivia to the right of the regular Itau bank. You pay here, I think around 150,000 all 3 forms. Each will have a reciept stapled to it.

6: Now with the motorbike you have to go to the Verification Centre which one of these three forms is concerned with. (A grey building that you drive into on the corner of Don Bosco and Av Ygatimi). This is to check that the vehicle matches all the paperwork. They will record the VIN number here, take one of the forms and replace it with the Verification forms. No money exchange here as you already paid at the bank.

7: Now you head back to the Motor Registary, Third floor and first doorway on the right where you received the carbon copy documents. They will put all you documents in order. Seperating and stapling.

8: Now you head to the second floor of the same building to a 1950´s esq room and head to the first que on the far wall. Mesa Entrada 1 I think. Hand all your documents over with your passport. They will issue you with Licence Plates, and a temporary Cerdula Verde.

(8a:This is where I´m at so I might need to update this later. There is a thirty day wait for the Cedula Verde to come through. Personally now I will travel up to Bolivia without the bike and around Paraguay with it until the Cerdula Verde comes through.
*Updated* I waited two months for my Cedulla Verde, which was fine for my situation but too long if you're travelling so I would recommend employing a notary for badgering the registry for the Cedulla Verde.)

9: In the meantime you also need an Habilitation card. It is better to get this outside of Asuncion apparently. I got mine in Lambare (I forget where, I think behind the Municipalidad: (Avda. Cacique Lambaré e/ Avda. Dr. Luís María Argaña). This took me 20 minutes & cost around 25.000 guaranies/$5. You need to bring the bike, a copy of your sale certificate (the registry will still have the original while the Cedulla Verde is processing), passport, home drivers licence etc. They will print a card up on the spot & give you a sticker to put on your bike. You are now Legal to ride in Paraguay but must wait for the Cedulla Verde to leave with the bike.

10: Just a note, you must travel with your lights on, even in the day outside of cities. Let me know if you disagree with any of this. This is how it has worked for me first hand but there might be other hiccups others have had.

Ajkevic

I've just gone through a similar process in Concepcion at Chacomer. I bought a Kenton GL 150 and had to wait 10 days for all the documents to come through, they basically walked me through the whole process. I got a license and the habilitacion card the following day from the municipal office (the guy from Chacomer seemed to know everyone and came with me to get them) and had to wait 10 days for the Cerdulla Verde. Total cost was just under $800, which seemed very reasonable. I've just arrived in Bolivia so crossing borders so far (only 1) has been fine

hi Bodo, i'm in paraguay right now as well and bought me the same bike as you for travelling... do you have any insurance? i've heard you need one to get out of the country...

Hi rennery - apologies for the late reply. No, I didn't buy any insurance in Paraguay or Bolivia. The first place I was asked was at the Copacabana border going into Peru - they let me through without it and I bought a policy for a month in Puno. They could only insure for Peru, so I didn't buy for any longer. After I headed down into Chile, Argentina and back into Paraguay and I wasn't asked for any insurance.

Hi,
I will also share my experiences as a foreigner buying a bike. Bought a new Star 200 chinese bike in Hohenau, Paraguay in 2015. Went to a local lawyer that would handle getting the papers. In the first days, I had some papers from the lawyer saying I just bought the bike an registration is in progress. Can be used in the city, but not on the "ruta". Dirt roads have no police, so you don't need anything there.

After a week, got the "chapa", the license plate. Now I could travel anywhere inside the country.
After a month, got the "cedula verde" to cross borders. All papers 100% legal.

Border crossing: The border between Encarnacion (PY) and Posadas (AR) is not recommended. The first time (2016) I had lots of discussion there (argentinian side, no problems in Paraguay), but finally got the temporary permit. Permit says I live in Paraguay, so the border guy did me a favor.
Second time (april 2017): They did not let me in. "You can't legally buy a bike as a foreigner in Paraguay" said the argentinian border official. Went angry when I asked to speak to his boss and threatened to confiscate my bike.

I do not recommend using this border, because it is well known to have strict controls (resulting from a little bad blood between Paraguay and Argentina generated by changing taxes for goods). If you try this border, you need an insurance. Try it early, if they don't allow you in, you can return after 11 o'clock and you will find different border officials.

On all other borders I never had problems, but they also wanted to see my insurance. My insurance that I bought in Paraguay was 20$ for 15 days, so I recommend buying one. Insurances are not valid in Paraguay, only in foreign countries. Didn't find an insurance company in PY that would cover my bike for PY.


Did all travel with internacional driver's license, entered in many controls but never had any problems.