Boa Vista to Manaus to Porta Velho, Brasil. 319 - 174 ´Road´ Conditions
 

Hi all,

Looking at taking this inland route during the begining of the wet season, crazy maybe? I have not been able to find much info on this autopista and I am thinking a swap to nobies might be required.

Also looks like some big gaps with out fuel.

All info appreciated.

Cheers HUBB

Tom

Ops! wet season? are you alone? few informations? Lots of gaps without fuel/people? Don't you want to think twice?

or try in july. dry season..

Do you understand portugue? If you do, try this:
BR-319 - Rodovia de ligação de Manaus (AM) ao sudoeste amazônico - SkyscraperCity

Hi Paulo!

That pictures look fantastic!! Only my portoguise isn't as good:innocent:
Which time of the year was that trip?

Which time of the year is the wet season?

We're looking to do that road in april/mai if possible...
Do you live in Manaus? We should meet up for a beer than bier


Werner+Claudia

Hi, Werner
I do not live in Manaus. I live in são paulo, 3.900 km away from Manaus. :)
The rainy season occurs during the summer - begins in November and runs through March.
The dry season occurs during the winter - begins in May and lasts until September.
In the rainy season, much of the region is submerged, "i.e", is under water.
The original message was posted in November 13th, 2009, 04:52 P.M.
Hugs!

Hi Paulo!

Thanks!!
Sounds like we could give it a shot end of april :scooter:!!!
We will find out!! :clap:


Werner+Claudia

BR174 & BR319 "road conditions"
 

Regarding the BR174 (Manaus > Pres.Figueiredo > Boa Vista > Pacaraima > Venezuela border)

This road have very nice spots and it's very easy to do. Sometimes w/ flooding from nov to march, but it's worth! Spend 2 days at Pres.Figueiredo w/ amazing falls and rivers. You'll ride near 150km through the Waimiri reserve w beautiful landscapes.

You can see some pictures and small movies here Dream World Quest

Regarding the BR319 (Porto Velho > Humaitá > Manaus)

From Porto Velho to Humaitá is a paved road. From Huamitá to Manaus, is about 800 km. During the rains there is a white mud (known as "sapé") that sticks like glue on the tires. Virtually impossible for even the most experient. But in July (dry) is possible. It's a 3 days off-road leg. Very difficult to find fuel. You can't camping in the bush (animals), then the options are to be hosted in the villages or within the fences of the antennas of Embratel (Telecom Company). The adventure is guaranteed! The Brazilian Army is working to pave all within 2 years.

Cheers.

Marcelo

By Boat!
 

Put the bike on a boat from Manaus to Porto Velho and enjoy the ride. There are many boats every day. Kick back in a hammock until you get to the pavement. From Porto Velho (actually from Humaia) it is paved all the way south to Foz.


Enjoy! Toby:mchappy::mchappy::mchappy:

we have a 1200GS and ride actually in Venezuela, we also want to Manaus - porto velho by boat and Porto Velho- Foz by road in middle April - May
is it easy to find hotels on this road?
and we would be happy to meet other bikers
christian

we drove this Nov. 2010
 

in a 4x4 iveco.

last fuel / water / services / food before you arrive in Humaita was here :

S3 49.270 W60 21.293 small settlement called CASTANHO

dirt started here :

S4 01.840 W60 36.799

good 'blacktop' road starts again here :

S7 16.566 W63 09.756

from this point to Humaita fuel is approx 60kms.

the section of dirt was 473kms with some sections of blacktop.
many MANY bridges (we counted over 250)
some were unpassable but always found route around.

the 473kms has no services available. do not believe the maps !!! or the rumours.
You need to assume enough fuel to cover the 473 + the last 60.

The issue of course is how wet it is.
Rainy season commences anytime from mid november and the road is underwater and height of rainy season.
rainy season 'begins' to end around June / July

we chose November for two reasons;
firstly it meant our time in Venezuela was good for visiting 'Salto de Angel'
second - we figured the very beginning of rainy season the road and bridges should be in best condition.

It took us 6 days, Manaus to Humaita.
We saw 5 vehicles along dirt sections, all locals in light wieght pickups or small cars.

it's a fun route !

my pages have downloadable garmin database of this section (and others of course), it gives a blow by blow record using waypoints for all key points as well as listing our track.

www.philflanagan.com

then navigate to 'americas'
and on to 'coming this way'

good luck, have fun !

Phil.

Venezuela - Brasil - Belen
 

Hi, Hola, Oi

I'm trying to clouse the America Continente from South Pole to North (Alaska) Done 2010.
2011 Alaska-Canada-LA
2012 LA-Maine-Miami-Golf Mexico-Centro America(rigth now) cross some how maybe with the new japanese ferry on July 11th 2012.

The cue is how to get to visit a friend in Santarem and then get to the Atlantic (Belen?) and go south BR101/116 to SAO PAULO home town.

How about 174 A BOA VISTA

210 SAO JOAO DA BALIZA + CAROEBE

Road 163 to RIO PARU DO OESTE to get some type Barcaza to Santarem?

From there (Santarem) go South BR163 to RUROPOLIS and then Altamira, Belen....
I'm fuc.. mad or is posible to to it during July 15 to Ago 15 MOTOSOLO (someone ones to come please do so) GSR1200ADV loaded 700pouds.

If some one have any other ideas then get an get a 38 and pull the trigger please do so.

Take care all of you, all the best to all the comunity HU !!!!!
jeiger

Hi guy's!

Just arrived in Porto Velho and asked around for prices for the ship to Manaus.
Not really surprising..... it's not cheap. After discussing the price and we did agree (1300Reals).... they came up with loading charge from 200Reals...

Any good ideas or contacts for shipping to Manaus?
Or has anyone been on the 319 recently...or is planning to do so and has any good information about the road conditions???

Many thanks for every good idea!!


Werner+Claudia now in Porto Velho

Me again.... :-)

Another option would be to ride to Santarem and ship from there to Macapa..... any advice???

Thanks again!!!


Werner y Claudia

Getting to Santarem
 

Hi Werner y Claudia, as you can see my plan is to get from Caracas to Belem.
As I can see you are in Porto Velho and 1500 reais is alot cash to ask for a ride in a boat to Manaus. Are you plannig to get to Santarem?? How?
What I saw is that I can ride from Caracas to Manaus an then put my bike on a boat to Santarem but a Brasilian told me that is going to cost me something like 600 reais for my bike and a cabin with air.
From Santarem to Belem the road is dirt 800KM to Belem and that guy two years ago could not do it because of the rain.

Let's talk about this, I realy need more info and I'm not gatting to much from ADV and here or BMWadventures.

My email is motosolowasabi@gmail.com
Skype rcobelo123

Let keep in toch.

Regards,

Raul
:welcome:
?c?
:helpsmilie:

For price reference, the boat ticket in 2008 from Porto Vellho to Manaus, bike+passenger, cost 100 USD (price of your "loading charge" alone). I know inflation hit Brazil since then (but not as much as venezuela and argentina), but it seems to me you got fairly overcharged. Then again, it could not be a problem for some of us with tight schedule and large budget.

Northern South America & Amazon
 

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Planning to see the coast of northern South America, catch a barge in Macapa, 900 mile float to Manuas, 400 mile of dirt and buying gas from farmers down BR 319, ride the Trans-Oceania for a stretch, see Brasilia, wander down the east coast of Brazil. That is how I want to traverse the beautiful leviathan known as Brasil.

Anyone know the cost of a barge from Macapa to Manuas?

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Hi!

Just finished the BR319. That road has everything you can ask for :scooter:

As long it is dry i recon it's allright. Totally diffrent story with rain.
We had 30 years old tarmac in all kind of destruction, sand, red dirt, gravel, clay and MUD! I forgot... STICKY MUD :innocent:

At the time (mid july 2012) all bridges were functional. That may change over the year ( or wet saison)
Some have been a bit dodgy! If not sure walk them FIRST!!

We could have get petrol in
-Humaita,
- 100km north of Humaita in a small village (there was a new petrol station not sure if in use )
- 430Km north of Humaita at the first ferry (the restaurant sell's a L for 6 Reais)
-after 580km's in careiro petrol station.

We got told it was dry and it was untill it started raining.....
Still good fun!!!beer

Werner+Claudia from sunny Manaus

Fairly overpriced indeed! We went last april with a Ford Ranger + camperunit and 2 pax, paid R$1500 all in. a 9 m motorhome paid 2500. Just go to the port and ask around. Just in case if you meet a truckdriver called Guido who hangs around there, do NOT beleive his stories of paved roads to Manaus and Santarem-Belem!

a question - is it all cash or do they take credit cards? just want to know if i have to stock up on cash before getting to Manaus.

thanks

i am thinking of taking my bike on the boat from macapa to santarem. anyone got ideas on the price of this ?
thanks kito

I doubt that they accept creditcards, it all is a bit informal unless you go with the passengerboats. Even if they do it will be a lot cheaper paying cash.

Br 319
 

I am detailing the day to day logistics, NYC to TDF via Brazil, and I am coming to grips with mud. It is looking like I can't get to Manaus until deep into October. Per annual rain table, this looks like ~400 miles of slippery hell. Thinking of skipping the Amazon and riding the coast of northern Brazil instead. This is breaking my adventure heart...

I wouldn't detail your day to day ride, I'd just go down and see what the weather does as BR 319 is totally dependent on weather and if it's bad just take a boat from Manaus to PV. You can easily ride down from VZ to Manaus in any weather, I just went down and back at the end of June in a lot of heavy rain with no problems in the North of Brazil.

The other areas of concern in your Northern beach route are the Lethem Road through Southern Guyana and the road from the FG border down to Macapa again weather dependent but not a trip stopper. The weather seasons for these three areas are all a little different, just go and ride what you can and truck/boat what you can't and if you get a little luck you can ride them all. It's not so badbeer

John

the Letham road is hard pack bauxite so shouldnt be to much of a problem . I came through that way 2 years ago ( things might be better/worse now ) on some half worn sahara enduro 3 tyres . the was a small shop with a couple of MX tyres in stock in the border town but i never felt the need.

We drove that road 4 years ago in the rain and indeed no problem, but last year it was a different story and decided to turn back. Even a 4x4 Bedford truck did not make it and another one had tipped over.
And the most difficult part was still to come if I remember well, the last 130 km or so (coming from Georgetown towards Lethem that is) were still pure clay.

Amazon-Brazil
 

Hi Peter, I just finish my 11th face trip America 2010-2012. Today I park my bike for 45 days until the 26th Set in Belem. As they say just go, do not try to plan ahead to much all change in one day or less. From Boa Vista to Manaus all brand new paved. Manaus - Santarem ferry 28 hours 200 USD GS1200adv plus cabin+air+toilet, if you can try to see "ALTER DO CHAO" - Santarem my god it's one those places that is difficult to get out afther you get there because of the atraccion in every way... Santarem - Belem 400 USD Bike and Suite 55 hours.
The DNIT, is a plublic brasilian organization that tells you about the conditions of the roads but the best is to ask the truck drivers. I talk to then and some motorcycle ones. They say from Manaus to Santarem with a small, light bike you can do it but you have many wooden brigdes in very bad shape and they are fixing some of the roads and you have to go on louse gravel, if is not raining the dust is a killer because the big trucks can not see you and you have to go fast into the side sholder and when rains the best think is to wait to dry out at least 2-3 hours before you try. From Santarem to Belem the 163 is great!! But after that heel 210 to Altamira is under construction. The best time is in the end of Sep but look that at that moment the problem is that you are going to deal with big holes of dust that you don't know what is inside, and usualy is alot of rocks from the raining season. As I am a solo rider I dicided to plan this part in the future if dirt bikes and have alot fun insted alot maybe sufer and finish my jorney there. My 12 fase will be to go to all the way coasting to Argentina.
Sorry if is to long the reply.
Take care all.
?c?
:smiliex:

Some things you can't plan, like a 3 week strike in Lethem, Guyana, that connects the coast to Manaus. It is getting worse by the day as yesterday the protesters almost burned the bridge. We were lucky to have bypassed it through the jungle towns.

Making it to Manaus, this week! Then hopefully the 319 to Puerto Velho and then the TransAmazônica to Santarem.

Adventurous greetings,
Coen

I plan on going on the BR 319 at the end of september .At that time will a DS 50/50 (mitas E07) tyres be ok or would I be needing to buy some more offroad tyres ?

Is that Lethem did you mean Linden?

Thanks for any clarification.

Mark

Mark, I am very sorry, I meant Linden. And I heard from my friends in Georgetown, it is still a sad mess. No vehicles in either direction.

Adventurous greetings,
Coen

We spend a week in Manaus, serious maintenance on the car. Now some sightseeing and then it's on southwards on the BR319! :clap:

Hi Mailking
I am up in El Tigre heading to Manaus. Shoulde be down there is two or three days depending............ Would be fun to have a beer if you are still there.

Any rec's on accommodation?

(I will be looking for a boat to Belem)
Cheers

Manaus
 

Hi Delbert, a feel weeks ago I stay in down town 4 blocks from the ferry to Belem.
Hotel Brasil
..:::Hotel Brasil Manaus:::..
(92) 2101-5000

Ferry boute San marino Sr Cristiano 93 91791222 *92 91395772
Leaves on Saturday from Manaus every 15 days

Big ferry to carry any type of car.

Take care and check out the Amazon Theater.

Raul
GSR1200ADV
:scooter:

Hi
Thanks for the info. Just arrived in Manaus so I doubt I will be able to make the sailing tomorrow (only have a bike so expect there will be other options (I hope).

sorry to have missed you

Cheers

Kevin

Just for reference if anyone is coming to Manaus looking for tyres.

I tried to get a new front for my GS1200. i would have liked a TKC80 but didn't expect to gind one. I tried several places (mentioned in other threads. Very helpful but couldn't get what I wanted. They seemed to have every size but the one I wanted. I have gone with one slightly high on the profile.

Anyway here is a contact L Marques Moto Precas, Av Desemb Joao Machado, 6342, Al Vorada, Manaus. They are on the way in to town so you may want to stop off on your way in.

Sorry Kevin, that we have missed each other. Just picking up free wifi at a petrol station in Humaita. On the crossroad of the BR 319 and the Transamazonica.

Took us 4 nights camping on the BR 319.
Three days with an average speed of 15 km/hour
average fuel consumption 8 km/liter
Never used 4x4!

We had one night of heavy rain. Road condition very easy. I would say you could even drive it in a VW combi. Some holes have to be taken in consideration other than that, a nice drive in the park. When it rains more than two days however, I take it, it would be a whole different ballgame.

Adventurous greetings,
Coen

BR174 Boa Vista to Manaus
 

Hi,

Just finished this trip thought would add a few notes as I couldn't find a few answers to some questions I had when I looked.

Date: Sept 11&12th 2012
Road: BR174 Boa Vista to Manaus
Bike: Suzuki DR200
Tank 13.5 litres

Road in good condition some potholes but none really deep.
I did 500kms first day easy and 190ish next cruising 90-100km/hr

No need for extra gas longest section maybe 150kms with plenty of gas stations all the way.

The indigenous section you can't stop in was really pretty.

I have come through from Guatemala and am heading south towards Rio/BA. If anyone has other questions about Venezuala etc.

Cheers

Simon