Am I screwed in Thailand?
 

Evening to all,

I crossed today from Laos to Thailand via Muang Ngeun to Thailand.
Border official stamped my Carnet in Thailand side and did not give any additional customs form!
When I entered first time to Thailand from Nepal (arrived to Bangkok) custom just made a copy of the Carnee and did not actually stamp original carnet.

From Thailand I will continue to Malaysia in 2 weeks.

So, am I screwed or not when I try to leave Thailand with my bike next time?

-Hemuli

you dont need a carnet for malaysia so id say no...

Hi sydneycraig,

Actually I need to ask Carnet stamp from Malaysia, because I will head from Malaysia to Indonesia.

I am just wondering if I have any problems to export my bike from Thailand since my carnet was stamped in Thailand border (normally they do not stamp carnet, just make a copy) and no customs forms were filled.

-Hemuli

Just came to Bangkok from Nan, 450km in heavy rain :stormy: now need some beer

Hi the importend thing is to have the exit stamp in the carnet so if a country claims the import tax you can proof the bike has left the country allready:

http://www.adventure-travel-experien...en_transafrika

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Hi,
normally if you enter Thailand they give you a white form "Temporary Import Permit" to fill out. That little border post at the top of Nan province might not even have heard about it! Did you have to wake up the officer?

But I know of friends who entered the country on the carnet and had no problems exiting.

Hi Argus,

Thanks for your answer.
Yes, I got this form when I entered first time to Thailand via BKK.
No, did not need to wake them up, because it was their smoke break :rofl:

Good to hear that I should not have problems to exit country even if my carnet was stamped.

-Hemuli

Update:

Got through the Thailand border to Malaysia today.
No problem even I did not have temporary customs form, only carnet was stamped.
Funny part was that exit customs was not able to stamp carnet, so I had to go to arrival customs booth (in Thailand side) to get carnet stamped.

You do not need a Carnet to enter Thailand, but the Thai customs officers have worked out that it is less work for them to just stamp your carnet rather than have to fill in the temporary import papers, they will also be very happy to stamp your carnet on the way out for the same reason, however, using your carnet to enter a country that is not in the carnet scheme and can not claim against it is a pointless exercise for the authorities and you, but what it is doing is making it more difficult for those of us that follow that do not have a carnet to enter Thailand, Laos and Cambodian because sooner or later these border officials will think that a carnet is the only correct way to process foreign vehicles, I was turned away from the Laos Cambodian border by the Cambodian side a couple of months ago for not haveing a carnet, I must say that that border is a very difficult border to cross anyway and yes I did write to the Cambodian Minister of State who wrote back very quickly and assured me that if I contact him next time we want to visit he will make sure we are allowed to enter Cambodia in our UK registered car without a carnet.

Dave
www.plodd.net www.overlandersthailand.com

Why do people want to use there Carnets in countries that don't need them????

There are a lot of people visiting Thailand, Laos and Cambodia with foreign plated vehicles and all you do is make it more difficult for the next person, as what was said above. There is list of countries on this site and in other places on the internet to tell you who uses the Carnet system and who doesn't. I do wish people would use it!

Wayne

Hi Wayne

I think there's probably a lack of understanding about the impact to be honest. And all too often when you've been on the road a while, you're hot, knackered and really can't be bothered to deal with another round b/s customs forms it's all too easy to just hand over the carnet.

Both have applied to me a couple of times, I have to confess - but keep on highlighting what you and others have said to get the message across!

Ed

Hi Ed

Yes I understand having travelled myself.
I have not used a carnet yet but I would not be impressed if I were refused entry in to a non carnet country just because others before me had been using them when there was no need

Cheers

Wayne

I left Malaysia 10 days ago. You need a Carnet in Malaysia unles your a resident of Thailand, Laos or Singapore & your bikes registered in one of these countries. Just make sure that Thai customs finalise their page when you leave Thailand. The border crossing south of Satun isn't usually as busy as others can be. A little more relaxed there too, but still very thorough. The insurance office is on the right as you approach the crossing about 100 meters before the gate. You'll need insurance, photocopies of vehicle registration & ownership papers, & a photo of bike with licence plate visible in order to obtain your ICP (International Circulation Permit) for Malaysia. Cost is $0. free. It's a Malaysian thing.

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Yes you do need for Malaysia. What finalisation of paper work at Thai Customs? I take it you mean the TIP?

Wayne

Carnet from Malaysia Auto club
 

Hi Again,

I have applied to the Malaysian Automobile Association for a Carnet, I emailed two of there offices, anyway one of the offices said they can't issue a carnet for a UK registered vehicle and the other said they could as long as I got a letter from the RAC in the UK saying that they no long issue carnet's I have done that and I am at the point where they have now asked for a copy of my vehicle registration document and a vehicle valuation which I sent them yesterday, the vehicle valuation which is the price I purchased the vehicle for from Avon and Summerset Police is for £3300 pounds. I will keep you posted as to what happens next.

Dave
www.plodd.net
www.overlandersthailand.com