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charapashanperu 25 May 2014 14:55

Start your SA budget ride in Peru!
 
HUBBers and dreamers!


One of the side things I like do here in Peru is to offer to buy the best Chinese bikes (they are getting better and better) for riders who want to ride SA in a budget way, change and reenforce a few things to prep them for trips...

This is a FREE http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/clap.gifhttp://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/clap.gif service (which means you cover the purchase of the bike up front, costs of paperwork, prepping the bike, etc, but I make no profit on it). I do this so that more budget folks can experience this beautiful country of Peru (that has adopted me) ON A BIKE!

Advantages over going it on your own:

(1) You won't break down because I've already gone over and bettered certain things. I have many insights on prepping that Chinese bike that will save you ALOT of possible headaches (This is a foto of an on/off road 250cc model I recommend... but there are many others).

http://www.aroundtheblockmotoadventu...g?t=1400551935

No worrying about the quality of the machine or waiting 2 weeks before you can start!

(2) You will already have a license plate, papers, and insurance (in my name!) to start your journey! The Peruvian police don't care who's name the bike is in (within Peru) as long as you have all the papers and insurance! No worrying about the quality of the machine or how to waste time waiting for paperwork!

You just go sign some papers with me here in Huanuco (2 hrs), then you take off and I send the new papers (the ones IN YOUR NAME! http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/deal.gif) to you near the border of your choice! I live in the middle of Peru (Huanuco) so it's easy to ride for an enjoyable two weeks (or more) to any of the 7 border crossings....

(3) FREE route and trip advice AND the best maps (and/or GPS download) about ANYWHERE in Peru http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/mwink.gif you want to go! I'm an American expat, Mechanical Engineer, and motorcycle mechanics teacher of 23 years. I've been living and riding in Peru since age 4 ..

(4) If you come back to Peru, I CAN "BUY THE BIKE BACK FROM YOU", by making then make it available to another budget rider....

YES, I will go over it with a fine tooth comb and make it just as good for the next guy/gal rider!:thumbup1:



sooo.. It's a cheap way (buy new for $1,200 to $2,000 USD) to hit the ground riding and at the end of your (well advised) trip, and a way you can get the better part of your investment back!! http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/clap.gif

pm me here or email me at: aroundtheblock07@gmail.com


We'll celebrate the start of your EPIC JOURNEY with (just) a few http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/friday.gif! (the night BEFORE of course http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/lol8.gif).


Toby

hugojanssens 3 Jun 2014 14:21

sounds really tempting to me! unfortunatly I was thinking of starting in Chile! But I am flexible and maybe could chance my plans :-)

brclarke 3 Jun 2014 15:16

I saw this and it certainly sounds like a generous offer. Right now I'm not really in a financial situation where I can take off to S.A. for any length of time, but I am very tempted! :mchappy:

Mike723 4 Jun 2014 04:00

I'm on my own UK registered bike in Peru and I agree it's a stunning country. However, when stopped by the police at their all too frequent checkpoints, their first request has been for my driving licence, followed by registration papers for the bike and SOAT (Insurance). If I've understood you correctly, the driving licence would be in a different name to the registration and SOAT.

Lonerider 4 Jun 2014 07:18

That's a great idea, got me thinking now for when i come back from Europe and Russia next year. Am i right in saying that you can visit all the countries in SA on this deal or is it limited to a couple of them??
Can you also go to Belize on it?
Thanks

esville 4 Jun 2014 19:07

In response to Mike723´s post.
Police don´t care if your driver´s licence is in a different name to the bike´s papers.
I´ve been stopped in this situation countless times with no problem at all.
The SOAT (insurance) relates to the bike not you.
You can also ride on an EU driving licence for 6 months after arrival in Peru.

If the police are determined to find an infraction it´s generally only so you pay for their lunch. 10 soles covers pretty much any (real or imagined) traffic offence.

Having bought several vehicles in Peru (with a work/residency visa) i would leap at the offer of the original poster.
You really don´t want to get involved with the paperwork, trust me.

charapashanperu 7 Jun 2014 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by esville (Post 468665)
In response to Mike723´s post.
Police don´t care if your driver´s licence is in a different name to the bike´s papers.
I´ve been stopped in this situation countless times with no problem at all.
The SOAT (insurance) relates to the bike not you.
You can also ride on an EU driving licence for 6 months after arrival in Peru.

If the police are determined to find an infraction it´s generally only so you pay for their lunch. 10 soles covers pretty much any (real or imagined) traffic offence.

Having bought several vehicles in Peru (with a work/residency visa) i would leap at the offer of the original poster.
You really don´t want to get involved with the paperwork, trust me.

He's right! Then if you plan to leave the country I can be doing your paperwork so that it is in your name.. you have 2 weeks to get to a northern or southern city where I will courrier the papers in your name to you. SOAT insurance can be in any name as long as it is the right bike.

Chhers! Tobybier

CrazyGringo 19 Jul 2014 14:23

Great idea!
 
Wish I had known about this back in February! Very hard to find out any information about bikes and biking in Peru (didn't know also about HU then!) I bought a Ronco Demolition 250 back then (total cost new was around US$1600) and have been travelling around a bit since then. The paperwork was easy in the end - just had to go to a notary to get my foreign papers "verified" and that was it. Bought SOAT and ready to ride. Had brackets made so I could mount metal panniers (also made locally) for an extra fuel container (not needed yet!!) and tools, etc. and the bike has performed beyond my expectations! Will store it locally till next year when I come back for another 6 months adventure!

charapashanperu 20 Jul 2014 00:44

Hey! You did good. The Demolition is a decent bike (except for the 19" front wheel and the rock hard inverted forks). You didn't mention how you waited out the paperwork for 2 weeks, 'cause they won't give you the plate until 6 days after your get the owners card and you can't ride around without a plate!

Cheers! Toby

Lonerider 4 Aug 2014 11:01

Toby

Do you put a rack and hooped pannier rails on the back of the Chinese 250 enduro's?
I would be travelling with soft luggage, something like the Magadans and would need hooped panniers rails to put them on the bike?

All the best

charapashanperu 4 Aug 2014 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonerider (Post 475222)
Toby

Do you put a rack and hooped pannier rails on the back of the Chinese 250 enduro's?
I would be travelling with soft luggage, something like the Magadans and would need hooped panniers rails to put them on the bike?

All the best

Lonerider,

Yes, we have a welding shop. I am not familiar with those specific bags, but if you give me the dimensions, I can make them.

The Sumo Torque comes with a wonderful rear rack and good rear peg mounts, so places to secure are already provided.

Keep in touch!

Toby

Lonerider 4 Aug 2014 16:58

Toby
Thanks for getting back in touch, I am at work abroad at the moment but they would need to be like the ones on my bike at home, they are the Touratec hooped pannier rails. If you need dimensions then I can get you them nearer the time.

What are the bikes like for standing on the pegs when off roading

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps1121051a.jpg

Cheers
Wayne

charapashanperu 5 Aug 2014 01:32

Wayne,

I just bought 2 more Sumo Torque 250s today for my tours. That's how happy I am with these machines!

The pegs are pretty basic, but I've stood on them (230 lbs) ALOT off road and no bending. but for $40 I can get wide cast pegs with 4 rows and adapt them to it. I've put the same on all my Hondas (XR650Ls, NX400s, XR250s) and are very happy with them.

Remember that I need a month to:

Get the paperwork started (and finished before you get here)
Make the adjustments and changes for durability and gearing
Build the racks you need (dimensions needed upon ordering)

I would build the racks out of 1/2 square profile tubular steel. It is light and strong and the bags sit flat against the supports.

I like your bike!! I run the transparent 5.8 gal ACERBIS tanks on my XR650Ls and they are great!

Toby

Lonerider 5 Aug 2014 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by charapashanperu (Post 475284)
Wayne,

I just bought 2 more Sumo Torque 250s today for my tours. That's how happy I am with these machines!

The pegs are pretty basic, but I've stood on them (230 lbs) ALOT off road and no bending. but for $40 I can get wide cast pegs with 4 rows and adapt them to it. I've put the same on all my Hondas (XR650Ls, NX400s, XR250s) and are very happy with them.

Remember that I need a month to:

Get the paperwork started (and finished before you get here)
Make the adjustments and changes for durability and gearing
Build the racks you need (dimensions needed upon ordering)

I would build the racks out of 1/2 square profile tubular steel. It is light and strong and the bags sit flat against the supports.

I like your bike!! I run the transparent 5.8 gal ACERBIS tanks on my XR650Ls and they are great!

Toby

Thanks for the info Toby and the comment on the bike
Wayne

A_T 14 Aug 2014 14:01

Hi Toby,

Are you still providing this service in Peru?

I have just came across this thread and are looking to get a motorbike when i fly into Lima in the last week of sept.

Cheers

Andrew

charapashanperu 14 Aug 2014 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by A_T (Post 476366)
Hi Toby,

Are you still providing this service in Peru?

I have just came across this thread and are looking to get a motorbike when i fly into Lima in the last week of sept.

Cheers

Andrew

Andrew,

Yes I can. If you get a Sumo Torque 250 or Advance Dakar 250, I will buy it from you at the end of your ride. Remember I need a month to order it in, get the paperwork and plate and bike prepped before you arrive so that you can just take off.

Toby

A_T 14 Aug 2014 23:31

Hi Toby,

Thanks, i will give you an email.

Andrew

A_T 21 Aug 2014 08:33

Just emailed your gmail toby.

Thanks

CosI'mFree 28 Aug 2014 15:12

Hi Toby,

I read your post here as I am in the very early stages of planing our trip around SA. And I would be very interested in talking to you about the service you offer!

Although I live in Australia, I am a dual citizen having been born in Argentina. Would this make it easier for me buying a motorcycle in SA and crossing borders?

Cheers,
Fabrizio

charapashanperu 2 Sep 2014 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosI'mFree (Post 477848)
Hi Toby,

I read your post here as I am in the very early stages of planing our trip around SA. And I would be very interested in talking to you about the service you offer!

Although I live in Australia, I am a dual citizen having been born in Argentina. Would this make it easier for me buying a motorcycle in SA and crossing borders?

Cheers,
Fabrizio

Not sure if it will help, but a good grasp on the language makes AOLT of difference!

CosI'mFree 2 Sep 2014 05:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by charapashanperu (Post 478261)
Not sure if it will help, but a good grasp on the language makes AOLT of difference!

No hay problemas entonces!:thumbup1:

cliaz 15 Sep 2014 12:20

Hey Toby,

Just sent you an email with a couple of questions.

Thanks for being a cool guy and offering to help out like this!

Cheers,
Klaus

CrazyGringo 29 Sep 2014 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by charapashanperu (Post 473632)
Hey! You did good. The Demolition is a decent bike (except for the 19" front wheel and the rock hard inverted forks). You didn't mention how you waited out the paperwork for 2 weeks, 'cause they won't give you the plate until 6 days after your get the owners card and you can't ride around without a plate!

Cheers! Toby

Sorry, not been back on the site as now back in Brazil!
The shop told me I just needed to carry SOAT and the bill of sale, and if I got stopped to tell them the plate was on the way. Only had minor problems at parking lots where they wanted the plate number for security, but told them I was a gringo waiting for it and waved through! Judging by the mototaxis with "placa en tránsito" on the back I assumed it was all above board!
My only complaint about the Demolition is that the supplied off-road tyres are not comfortable on tarmac (very noisy and a bit bumpy), and will be replacing them with "mixtos" (hopefully Pirellis if I can find them) next year. when I return.

yuma simon 30 Sep 2014 02:46

I am glad to see someone offering a service like this. I have been thinking of doing something like it for those traveling from the US into Mexico. I have a wholesale connection to a line of 200cc bikes. I know they are not all out racing bikes, or have all the quality of a $5500 Honda, but for around 1/3 the price, they make for the perfect 'disposable' bike; disposable in that you aren't going to cry giving it to someone wherever you end up, or selling it cheap back to the seller, or selling to a fellow traveller, etc. You can factor in the price as depreciation (like a straight up rental). Any money you get back is like bonus money!!

maria41 20 Oct 2014 10:23

Toby, great to offer your help like this. I sent you an email. Early days but need to start planning!


Cheers,

Toyark 20 Oct 2014 12:07

... and here is a little database of useful places in Lima like petrol stations and cashpoints etc to help reduce your panic levels :Beach:

nictayt 24 Nov 2014 21:41

I will be arriving in Lima at the Beginning of January and I am very interested in this Motorcycle service. I tried writing a private message to Charapashanperu but i was told I need to make more posts since I am a new member of this forum. What type of information would be required for me a acquire one of your bikes?

kevrider 28 Nov 2014 08:19

so, has anyone used this service? it's very interesting, I'd love to hear about your experience.

charapashanperu 2 Dec 2014 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by nictayt (Post 486705)
I will be arriving in Lima at the Beginning of January and I am very interested in this Motorcycle service. I tried writing a private message to Charapashanperu but i was told I need to make more posts since I am a new member of this forum. What type of information would be required for me a acquire one of your bikes?

Sorry Nic,

I was out on a tour and am just now getting to this...

I really need about 1 month to purchase the bike from you get it prepped, papered and license plate (unless you buy one of my used ones). Then when you arrive in Peru, we do about 3 hrs of paperwork to transfer it to your name (takes 15 working days), then you can take off immediately (using my papers, etc) on your ride. When the change into your name comes thru, then you can take the bike out of Peru.

If you buy one of my bikes, or a new one of the type I use for my tours, (and if you come back to Peru) then I offer to buy it back from you and will pass it on to another traveler!


Cheers! Toby

charapashanperu 2 Dec 2014 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevrider (Post 487082)
so, has anyone used this service? it's very interesting, I'd love to hear about your experience.

Kev,

Andrew and Tamzin are touring Chile right now on a chinese bike I bought for them for the beginning of their journey that started here in Peru. Andrew said it would be fine if anyone wanted to contact him about the experience. I will PM you his email.

Also arriving this month is Florian taking one of my slightly used Sumo Torques.

Next month Klaus and Ash will be taking to more.

Cheers! Toby

charapashanperu 2 Dec 2014 20:30

Here is Andrew and Tamzin's blog about their trip in SA on one of my prepped Chinese Sumo Torques.

The Lagunas of the Atacama Desert | OnePointFiveBillionInches

Don't forget to tighten the spokes every week or so!!dohdoh

charapashanperu 5 May 2015 03:23

Dollar Up!
 
The dollar is up in Peru and the price in soles has not changed! That means an even cheaper motorcycle for you. Drop me a PM. :thumbup1::thumbup1:

Peter Bodtke 27 May 2015 13:27

recommendation
 
I rode with my amigos on a tour with Toby in the fall of 2014. On top of having a great time riding, enjoyed ever every aspect of working with Toby. And I can be a fussy traveler...so that says a lot. He is a stand up guy and really knows motorcycles and Peru (and beyond.)

:innocent: :D :thumbup1: :clap:

Currently planning/dreaming about a trip to the center of South America, through the Amazon grasslands, across north then eastern Brazil. Finally coming back through Paraguay, Bolivia and back to Peru. Getting a bike from Toby makes a lot of sense to me and riding a 250 cc to a ripping good time off the tarmac.

brclarke 28 May 2015 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by charapashanperu (Post 487584)
Here is Andrew and Tamzin's blog about their trip in SA on one of my prepped Chinese Sumo Torques.

This might be a better link, as it goes to the beginning of their adventure...
Jetlag, altitude sickness and paperwork – Our first few days in Peru. | OnePointFiveBillionInches

harbie 4 Aug 2015 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by charapashanperu (Post 503935)
The dollar is up in Peru and the price in soles has not changed! That means an even cheaper motorcycle for you. Drop me a PM. :thumbup1::thumbup1:

I'm planning a ~3 month trip to SA starting at the end of the year and I really want to do it on a motorcycle. My Spanish isn't good, so your offer seem very nice.

Is there any problems/challenges associate with:
a) taking the bike outside of the country
b) taking the bike outside of the country and not returning it in the Peru (e.g. storing it for a year in Argentina until my next travel).
c) selling the bike outside of Peru (either for parts or whole)
d) dumping it in a ditch somewhere (if it brakes down)

charapashanperu 8 Aug 2015 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by harbie (Post 512316)
I'm planning a ~3 month trip to SA starting at the end of the year and I really want to do it on a motorcycle. My Spanish isn't good, so your offer seem very nice.

Is there any problems/challenges associate with:
a) taking the bike outside of the country
b) taking the bike outside of the country and not returning it in the Peru (e.g. storing it for a year in Argentina until my next travel).
c) selling the bike outside of Peru (either for parts or whole)
d) dumping it in a ditch somewhere (if it brakes down)

Harbie,

No, no problem taking the bike out of the country as it will be in your name. NO problem leaving it in another country (unless you sell it there!). It MAY affect your being able to return to those counties if they keep computer track of those things... or if the TVIP expires while in a country..

I do a BUY BACK if it is a bike I usually use in my Adventure Tours...

Toby

kgarbarz1 12 Aug 2015 01:20

List of motorcycles
 
Hi there Toby,

First off it's great that you provide this, sounds super convenient. Do you have a list of some of the bikes, particularity do you have any motorcycles with motors <250cc?

Cheers,
Krys

charapashanperu 22 Aug 2015 23:03

Krys,

Sorry so late to get back to you! Was on a ride in the backlands of Peru!

Write me at: aroundtheblock07@gmail.com

Toby

charapashanperu 15 Sep 2015 15:19

There is a NEW Chinese 250cc now available in Peru! The Tekken 250 !!:scooter:

http://www.chinamotorworld.com/files...umo/TEKKEN.jpg

ridetheworld 29 Nov 2015 02:31

1+ for Around the Block tours. Toby and Jamie are great guys and I wouldn't think twice about using this service.


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