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waga95 23 Sep 2012 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by LasseA (Post 393526)
"Yeah if i go alone i would surely do a longer distance a day but since i think 1 or 2 friends will follow it seems dumb."

Then you have to cut it to at least half.

/Lasse

Yeah i'm aware of that, nice to see another swede :)

Wheelie 23 Sep 2012 15:21

The questions of how many kms/day keeps popping up all the time. So, I took the opportunity to start a new thread that deals with this general question - for people to share their opinions and personal experiences... Hopefully you will find it useful

You can find it here: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...377#post393545

waga95 23 Sep 2012 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheelie (Post 393568)
The questions of how many kms/day keeps popping up all the time. So, I took the opportunity to start a new thread that deals with this general question - for people to share their opinions and personal experiences... Hopefully you will find it useful

You can find it here: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...377#post393545

Pretty intresting, but how many KMs a person can do is probably individual.

Counting in how well trained you are, if you sleep in a hotel or not.
It's not just hours that counts, its how well you sleep.

Personally i think as you, 300km/day is a good number for trips in Europe/America. 300km/day = 8 hours riding, 8 hours freetime, 8 hours sleep.
Just like a regular school day, exccept the riding.. :)

Wheelie 23 Sep 2012 20:12

I totally agree, it depends on person, bike, region, quality of road, etc. The advice was more as a general guideline for the average ambituous rider who wants to travel long and fast but still enjoy their trip - pushing it to the edge of the comfort zone, but not beyond. Where this limit is is very personal. And, for many, fast and efficient is not even remotely their thing. But for me, traveling fast implies sticking to the better roads most of the time and pushing it to the edge of the comfort zone...

Keep in mind, if you want to average 300 per day, including the occasional rest day, brake downs, border crossings, poor stretches of road, etc - you will have some days with catching up to do, where you might be doing as much as 4-500 kms or more, and where a typical day of travel is about 350 kms, or 6 hours on the road (+/- 2 hrs). Of this, following my guidleine, approximately one hour of this would be spendt refueling, stretching your legs, etc. I think this is quite ambitious for most.

Also, there is only so much you can shave off this time by cutting back on brakes, and depending on place and time of year, you might not have the option to add much to your riding time before you are traveling after sunset and things get hairy. Personally I think it is a good idea to have at least a couple of hours leway to avoid riding after dark - i.e. if you get caught behind after a flat tire. During the Moroccan winter for instance you may have only 10 hours of ample riding time, but in Northern Norway during the summer you have 24, and on the equator the average is 12 hours all year round.

Personally I find that the faster parts of Europe is not much faster than the fastest bits of Africa, and I find that my guideline applies pretty well in both places - atleast for me :mchappy:

2499 24 Sep 2012 18:23

Hi

I come from Scandinavia my self (Copenhagen). I also dreamed about long bike tours when i was your age (now 32). My experience have learned me that you just have to relax and go for it, but be open to change your plan.
I one time drove from Copenhagen to Bolzano in Italy in one go. After falling a sleep on the bike on the German autobahn , where i woke up because my helmet hit the handlebar at 150km/h, i learned this was not the way to do it.

When i drive now i set a goal far ahead. Like "I would like to be around Sicily within a week". And then I just drive with the weather. If it rains to the west, I drive east. If I see a nice road that more or less goes the direction i want, I take that. This way have given me the best tours so fare, with plenty of good unplanned experiences. If i reach my goal or not is not so important, i will have a hell of a tour anyway.

A too tight plan, will make you focus only on the final destination. And put your attention away from where you actually are. On a bike to enjoy yourself!

If i was you. I would drive direction Maroco. But without planning too much. See where the road takes you...
You will be in Maroco after a week with no problem. Then take your time in Maroco. When you have a week left , head home.

Enjoy your Tour....

Christian :palm::mchappy::palm:

waga95 29 Sep 2012 22:32

Yeah guys, kind of a sad thing has happened.
I got my first paycheck from my new weekend job this week.
Found that i had been payed to little so i rang up the company i WAS working for and explained the problem (and wondering if there was any problem or mistake).
Two hours after that call i got a text saying; I will hear from you if we'll acquire your service further // ****

That will say i got fired VIA a text cause i wanted to ask if there was anything wrong with my paycheck.
Words around town says that the guy actully is kind of unreliable when it comes to money :(

So i'll try to get sponsors and if than doesn't work i think i will have to cancel the trip..

Kind of sad really..


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