Most easterly point in Europe?
 

Hi everyone.
I'm on this sort of mission to reach the four points of the compass in Europe.
West - Dingle, Kerry Ireland. (easy in a day)
South - Tarifa Spain.was there last year.
North - NordKapp, Norway. Next year.
East - ???.wwhats the concensous people?
Word is the most easterly town in europe should be in the Ural foothills Somewhere.
Any clues????????

Geologically speaking, the divide between Europe and Asia is an old suture zone where the two continents collided and became fused. It is therefore poorly defined, being ultimately decided by subsurface geology.
According to Wikipedia-
"Europe's boundary to the east is vague, but has traditionally been given as the watershed for the Ural Mountains"
And according to this article-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transco...sia_and_Europe
the eastern most point would be on the Emba River or in the Mugodzhar Hills of Kazakhstan.
Having ridden pretty close to this point, i can tell you that it's not very spectacular, and you would be hard put to notice any hills or rivers. The easternmost point would probably be out on the steppe somewhere and quite difficult to get to without a dirt bike and a GPS.
Sean

Aktobe (Aktubinsk) would be a town close to this point, or else Vorkuta in the north of Russia near the Barents Sea.
Sean

No, no, Nordkapp is not the northernmost point of Europe - that title belongs to small peninsula Knivskjeloden, several kms west from Nordkapp.
Regards,
AnteK, XTZ 660

Thanks everyone, looks like there's no real concencous.Michelin website is telling me its in Finland,Vartsila.
maybe I just have to go to them all to be sure!!!!
Happy biking, and thanks again.
"Crashings just proof that your trying"

kevinbb, just to confuse you some more the most northerly point in mainland europe is infact on the Nordkinn penninsular at 71.08 N this is mainland not a small offshore Island like Nordkapp.
Nordcap lies at 70-10-21N and Knivskjellodden 47 mins of a degree further north.
So if your trip is about going to the extreme points you may want to know this - Its really not that important in the greater scheme of things. Oh by the way if your going to the Nordkinn point take some canny boots as its only accessible by walking I cant remember exactly but 22 kms each way rings a bell!

[This message has been edited by adventure950 (edited 02 March 2006).]

Most western point in Europe
 

Hi all

I was looking for information about Med Tours when I look into "European Cardinal Points Tours."
I know that the most western point in Europe is in one of Azores islands. However, the most western point in European continent is Cabo da Roca, Sintra, in Portugal, 25 kms far from my house.
Reed about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabo_da_Roca
Evey sunday motorbikers joint there.

Curiously, the most southern Tarifa and western Cabo da Roca are 600 kms far.

Portuguese travellers who went to Russia and Ukrania say that is needed more extra money to pay lots of traffic tickets ...

However, I would like to travel Europe west to east one of this days.

regards
C.

my take would be Ekaterinburg on Ural, Russia
 

Glad to hear that I’m not the only one with such ideas (reaching cardinal points of Europe, the Old Lady as it is called amongst continents).
So, I already did three of them (at least what was my perception of this, rather vague institution of W/E/S/N-most point) and guess what I’m missing the East :-)
Here is my take:

West - Cabo da Roca, Sintra, in Portugal (great place, great country to ride, in one work beautifull) – Done in 2002
South – for me it was Rock of Gibraltar (got very close but due to visa problems I could not get to UK territory) - Done in 2002
North - NordKapp, Norway. Although I agree with AnteK (Knivskjeloden)….but you can’t ride there. And, please building complex like the one on NordKapp in such environment deserves some credit – Done in 2005 (absolutely magnificent ride, Norway is so great, that I did not want to take any pictures as it would be only 10% of what human eye can perceive)

East – my take would be Ekaterinburg on Ural, Russia. Of nothing else there is a demarcation line on the street stating Europe on one and Asia on the other side.

Getting there should not be a big deal, nor (according to many) it would be as half as fun as any of three other points (especially in my style. I ride alone. Budapest – NordKapp – Budapest on the way North all over the Eastern Europe and Finland, on a way south Norway, Denmark, Germany… 8.500 km in 12 days).

So, one day I’ll do it just to complete the mission but without high expectations….

Cheers,
Momir

As someone else has mentioned, the NordKapp is not the most northerly point, it is the most northerly point reachable by road :-)

You can see the most northerly point while standing on the NodKapp, and IIRC it is a 12Km walk from the road.

Don't forget the TOMs
 

Just to spice this up a bit...

If you listen to the French, then their overseas territories are part of Europe. Unlike, say, the British colonial outposts, these are directly integrated into the host state, sending MPs to parliament and run from the capital.

Off the top of my head, I would make the most westerly, Wallis et Fortuna (kinda due west off Colombia in the Pacific) and the most easterly, somewhere in Nouvelle Calédonia off the north east coast of Australia. Réunion might put in a claim for the most souterly too.

So that might just extend your trip a bit mate. At least you don't need a carnet.

Simon

For most western points I would say Iceland (Bjargtangar?, a lighthouse). If you are keen on the continental plates it would be somewhere around Myvatn.

On the other hand, South Spania is as far as I know on the African plate.

Well I certianly enjoyed reading the replys folks.
It seems there isn't really a concensus, or I I'm just going to have to satify myself.
I realised that Some of the points are contentious but I'll decide and get to them.
Many thanks guys and lets keep up to date with progress.
Now, off to the ferries sites! LOL
Safe riding all

what about the central point?
 

YORKSHIRE!!!!:clap:

Where god lives.............
Watch out for the skiptonite!

Most Southern
 

Well it seems that the most southern point in Europe is an island called Gavdos which is south of Crete in Greece. I was there some years back and I can tell you it’s a lovely place. On the most southern tip of the island someone has built a wooden chair in a scale of about 4:1 which symbolizes the chair that the king use to seat and gaze at Libya. It is built on top of some rocks and has a nice view.
Be aware: there is no petrol available on the island.

Here's a challenge for you
 

Well I think when it comes to where mainland Europe starts and ends on its Eastern side, you cant go past the russians. Afer all, the Europe Asia border in the Urals is on Russian soil, so their take on it is therefore definitive.

The watershed of the urals runs roughly north - south for most of its length, but turns notably to the east up in the far North. The coal mining / gulag city of Vorkuta (up in the deep North) at 64 degrees East is well to East of Ekaterinburg and Chelyabinsk (both around 60-61 degrees East).

And Vorkuta is in European Russia. I have no doubt there are villages further East once you get to Vorkuta. Anyone wanting to go as far east in Europe as possible will have to head up to Vorkuta (no cheating on the train) and then take what ever mud trails to whatever more easterly villages you can.

Someone with nothing else to do this summer should head off now, and check it out!

But take a mud bike

** Note the part of Kazakhstan that is within Europe is the part to the north and west of the Ural river ... The city of Uralsk lies on that Europe / Asia border, and is only 51 degrees East

By means of illustration: http://www.thingsforlearning.com/pro.../7925-4504.jpg

It looks like the most Easterly point in mainland Europe is about 66 degrees East.

If you're going to the four corners you really ought to go to the middle as well!
The official centre of Europe, as defined by the French National Geograpic Institute, is 25km north of Vilnius (Lithuania) on the road to Utena.
There is a small centre there where you can buy postcards etc. and get an official Centre of Europe stamp in your diary. How can you resist?!

Has to be in Turkey,
Istanbul,
The middle of the bridge called Bogazici. or Bospur Bridge.

Image:Most Bosfor Istambuł RB1.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

While your there can I suggest you take the ferry from Istanbul down the Bosporus Strait to almost the Black sea.

Istanbul: City tours by ferry - Telegraph

If you've only a couple of days to spend on the water in Istanbul, then the excursion up the Bosporus or a trip to the Princes' Islands are the two essential boat-journeys to take. For me the Straits of Bospurus was the best. This offers the unforgettable experience of zig-zagging between two continents to view the city's waterfront suburbs and settlements. Istanbul life is relaxing on the boats.
The mighty Bosporus strait runs 32km between the Sea of Marmara and the Black Sea, separating the European and Asian shores of Istanbul. It's steeped in myth and legend.

Fantastic fish lunch at the last stop.

Great day out.

Graham

Defining the limits of something that doesn t exist is impossible...

You defined Ireliand as the westernmost point...but in June Irish clearly expressed their doubt about their european identity...people living in Iceland are vikings like in Scandinavia, shouldnt it make of Iceland a part of Europe..what about the european islands all over the world in the pacific ocean or the caraibs...

If you define Europe as a continental entity, then once again why do you define Ireland, an island, as the westernmost point of Europe?

Russia extends to the north pole, russians have been involved in european history for thousands of years, should it be regarded as european...

Defining Europe is just impossible, because there are so many interpretations of it.

Well if I was going to the most easterly place, and it was in the middle of no where, ie, A sh1t hole, I think I would choose a good easterly position.
Like Istanbul.

Thats East enough for me.

Isnt that a bit like saying the most northerly point of Europe is Stockholm, cause anywhere north of there is sh1t hole?

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Depends on how much crap you want to take, as regards a sh1t hole of a place.

No crap and sh1t holes - no real riding vs life experience, don't you think?
 

Well, Istanbul (as well as Stockholm - good one colebatch) may be 'good' but they are not 'The positions'. In my opinion it's a compromise, just like 'I'll take my riding gear, hop on a plane and do to the North Cap :-)

No crap and sh1t holes - no real riding vs life experience, don't you think?

Southern Point
 

Sorry my friend but the southern point in europe IS the island GAVDOS.
I am from Crete - greece, and i know better the place!!!:thumbup1:

Hi,

Having been to Tarifa a few times, windsurfing, I was quite happy it was the most Southern "Mainland" European point...

Until, I lines it up on my map and went right. I reckon Turkey, may hold the most Southern point, have a look at this somewhere round Cabala.
:mchappy:

Looks like I need to be off again!

Dan

That part of Turkey is not Europe ... European Turkey stops at the Dardanelles / Bosphorus ... the European part is the 3% of Turkey west of Istanbul.

The rest of Turkey, the other 97%, is Asia.

Oh, did not realise that at least I can still say I have been to the Southern most point!

The most southern part of continental Europe they is the cape tainaro in Peloponnisos in Greese There at the Greek mythology they was the entry in the under world