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Cesare 6 Nov 2009 15:43

Well the point is that i would stay more as i can in japan, that's why i want to take the train and why i hope to cross all the russia in 20 days.
But to do that i have to have certain ideas about train stuff.
I would take the bike on the my same train to be sure that when i'll be in vladivostock i'll have my bike and to do not lost the ferry to Japan.
So i'm looking for somebody who could tell me how to do it.
I'll really appreciate it!

motoreiter 6 Nov 2009 15:59

you'll have a great trip. I wouldn't worry much about crime, would worry more about getting in an accident, but that risk isn't too bad either as long as you stay on your toes. just use common sense and good judgement (I know you're kinda young, but...)

corruption is not that big of a deal. Don't speed or pass in no passing zones and you'll eliminate 95% of the problems with "corruption" (ie, traffic violoations). If they stop you if you don't speak russian just play dumb and be prepared to wait. don't lose your temper. never pay more than 2000 rubles, and even that only very rarely (usually only a couple hundred). bring a couple of extra international drivers license in case the cops get greedy, you can let them keep one and continue with the others. i think russians lose their license for six months for passing in a no passing zone, so the fines for that are rather high.

getting the scooter on a train will take a little effort, but several people on this site have done it, you might want to track them down and PM them for contact info for train assistance.

Nath 6 Nov 2009 16:06

you can't guarantee you're bike will arrive with you, even if you managed to get some kind of passenger/goods train (probably with the bike in a post wagon). Long distance trains don't stay as complete trains, maybe some wagons aren't needed and get took off, maybe some wagons need to go faster so get attached to a faster train, whatever.

Imagine driving your bike into the biggest passenger railway station in Rome, and trying to get it put on an express passenger train. Wouldn't happen would it. It's the same in Russia. It one of the biggest most well organised railway networks in the world.

If you send your bike with a private freight company it will arrive on the date arranged.

Cesare 6 Nov 2009 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by motoreiter (Post 263075)
getting the scooter on a train will take a little effort, but several people on this site have done it, you might want to track them down and PM them for contact info for train assistance.

I thinki si better to write all here and not on pm, so everybody can reed this posts and clarify theris dubts! Me too ;)

So anybody who knows something about it, please write it down here!
Cheers!

Cesare 6 Nov 2009 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nath (Post 263077)
If you send your bike with a private freight company it will arrive on the date arranged.

But where can i contact these company? Directly in Russia in some turistic agency? Or is better to do it now? Are they expensive? Do u know how mutch can it coast?
Anyway Thanks

motoreiter 6 Nov 2009 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cesare (Post 263078)
I thinki si better to write all here and not on pm, so everybody can reed this posts and clarify theris dubts! Me too ;)

you can certainly do whatever you want, but hte fact is that everyone you should be contacting might not have seen this thread.

Cesare 6 Nov 2009 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by motoreiter (Post 263085)
you can certainly do whatever you want, but hte fact is that everyone you should be contacting might not have seen this thread.

Ah, wow really? Well but how can i contact them? Sorry but i still don't know how to use the forum XD

Cesare 8 Nov 2009 19:20

Upppp! ;)

motoreiter 8 Nov 2009 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cesare (Post 263086)
Ah, wow really? Well but how can i contact them? Sorry but i still don't know how to use the forum XD

find the people who have posted about doing this, click on their profile and one of the options should be to send them a PM. I think you can't do that until you've made at least seven posts or something.

farqhuar 9 Nov 2009 10:08

Go for it Cesare, great to see another rider attempting it on a scooter! :)

I did it in the opposite direction on a Burgman last year (Korea to Palermo). Didn't bother with trains - more fun riding - and had a wonderful time.

See Across the universe

Feel free to PM me with any questions.

Cesare 18 Nov 2009 15:56

Hi guys!
These days I was really busy so I haven't thought very much about the journey,but time is passing and i have to take decision and to plan all before the 2010.
So I'm still at the point that:
- i Don't Know How take the Vespa on the Transiberian train.
-And i don't know how to ship the Vespa back to Italy from Japan.
But now i'm more concerning about the first point...

So please help me, becouse i have no friends how could(or want) to help me and my family is really worried about this trip, besides they are tring to make me change idea.
Omg i never thought it could be so difficult to plan such tip...

Peace

roadsacallin 18 Nov 2009 16:48

some help
 
I don't have personal experience with the Trans-Siberian, but I thought I could help you find someone who does. I always have trouble with the search function of the HUBB, so I recommend doing a very specific google search. With an advanced search, you can specify the website you want to search on, and even just by putting your search in quotes on the regular search, you can get very good results, often sending you back to the HUBB. I just typed in "motorcycle on the trans siberian" in quotes, and this link came up with specific information that you need and HUBB members that you can contact:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ian-train-2896

Hopefully this will help in all of your upcoming research. Another piece of advice:

If you haven't yet, look into couchsurfing.com. This site and the connections it offers can be a golden ticket for a young solo traveler like yourself. It's a site linking travelers all over the world, and you can stay in the homes of other travelers along your route for free. It's not just a way to save money in expensive places (like europe and Japan), but a great way to get to know locals and their culture, and they often take you to see aspects of their countries that you would never find in a guidebook or by talking with other travelers. I just returned from a RTW trip and stayed with people from Japan, Syria, Burundi, South Africa, Ireland and all in between, and most of the highlights of my trip were with couchsurfers.

Good luck with the planning, and as Mika says: YOU CAN DO IT.

Cesare 20 Nov 2009 15:53

Hey men!
I've some new Questions!

-Do u think is it possible to do such trip with a 50cc tunned Vespa?(the engine is a 80cc nut originally it was built with a 50).
Can I go on all kinds of streets in foreign country? Wich driving licence do i need to drive a 50 cc?



And going back to charge the bike on the transiberian-train...help me:( nobody is answering to my pm! And i can't find anything on intenet!!

Still thanks,
Peace
Cesare

tommysmithfromleeds 20 Nov 2009 17:01

A 50cc vespa is as good as anything if your happy with the pace, mate. chances are for europe you need some kind of pre-training, in the uk we have a CBT. alexlebrit knows more then I do but I think for europe having a provisional licence is ok for 50cc. Russia on the other hand may be tricky without a full licence as a carnet is required, and you can only get one with a full licence.

oh and motorways are no gos on 50cc.

tom.

Cesare 20 Nov 2009 19:40

Thanks for all the answer and for the partetipation, but i'm getting crazy...i have to know how to put my bike on the transiberian, please can anybody give me a clear answer or link me some web site or tell me to who i have to send a pm?
I have to know now what to do.
Anyway thanks to all the community, u already give to me a huge help ;)
Grazie


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