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PBW 27 Mar 2014 18:31

Sorry to be a bit off topic, but how did you do that map Francesco? (Which software I mean..)

francescoristori 27 Mar 2014 18:52

Easy - Photoshop CS5

BTW, I got another answer from the Hakodate customs about the security fee:

"The security fee is calculated at the 8% of motorcycle price.
In principle, the security guarantee is necessary."

So, basically they said that I don't have to pay the consumption tax but I have to pay a security fee that is equal to the consumption tax...and to be refunded it's not as easy as I can guess...maybe...

Chris of Japan 28 Mar 2014 01:02

E-mail or PM your correspondence with customs (so I know what questions you asked and the answers they gave you).
I will call Wakkanai customs (i.e. the people who will actually do the procedures) and check the actual procedures.
I think "in principle" means "usually." But when entering by ferry, they do not require it.

Chris


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Originally Posted by francescoristori (Post 459923)
Easy - Photoshop CS5

BTW, I got another answer from the Hakodate customs about the security fee:

"The security fee is calculated at the 8% of motorcycle price.
In principle, the security guarantee is necessary."

So, basically they said that I don't have to pay the consumption tax but I have to pay a security fee that is equal to the consumption tax...and to be refunded it's not as easy as I can guess...maybe...


Chris of Japan 31 Mar 2014 03:33

I spoke with Mr. Matsunaga at Wakkanai Customs, and he said that if you use the ferry, they will not charge a security guarantee.
This is a special rule that usually only applies if you use the ferry.
Here is a report from last year, if you did not see it.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...rry-sept-73029

Last year, a rider was charged 22,000 yen by the customs broker, including insurance). This is less than what the tax would be (and a lot less than a carnet!!).

francescoristori 31 Mar 2014 10:51

Thanks again for this informations!
22.000yen is a bit more than the 8% tax on my motorcycle (its commercial value is less than 1500€).
But no problem, as you say, it is a lot less than a carnet, especially because it includes also the insurance!

So, let's summarize, I will have to make 2 IDL, one for Mongolia and one for Japan (Vienna and Geneva convention) for 80€ in total.
I have to make the doublem Russian Visa (270€); the single Mongol Visa (60€).

I have done hepatitis A, typhus and cholera vaccine (70€ total); I will probably make a health insurance (for 180€ I will get one for 90 days from Europ Assistance).

This is the bureaucracy part...I think I don't need more things.

Chris of Japan 31 Mar 2014 23:48

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Originally Posted by francescoristori (Post 460310)
So, let's summarize, I will have to make 2 IDL, one for Mongolia and one for Japan (Vienna and Geneva convention) for 80€ in total.

Can't you get by with just a Geneva (1949) IDL?
I know plenty of people from USA, Japan and other Geneva-only countries who go to Mongolia, Russia, etc.

francescoristori 1 Apr 2014 08:37

The ministry of foreign affairs says Geneva 1949 for Japan, since december 2013, because before I could have driven there only with my italian driving license with an official japanese translation; and says Vienna 1968 for Mongolia.
Some friends told me that they never check your documents but for 40€ I think it's better not to risk.


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