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CasperOntherOad 15 Oct 2014 14:42

France to Nepal
 
Hello there!
I'm working on our next trip. We will be 2 or 3 motorbike. :mchappy:
We hope to go to Nepal passing by Kirghiz, China, Tibet, and then, down to India, Pakistan, Iran Turquie and hOme ... We project to ​go in 1 year or more...
The route from France to Torugart Pass in Kyrgyzstan is allready defined.
But from that point till Nepal, it seems to be a bit more complicated and expensive du to the local guide we must pay apparently!?!... ​
It seems that riding on his own motorbike is quite expensive in china? I read that we have to travel with an agency or local guide?
But once crossing the China border, can we​ drive by our own or do we have to ride with the guide to Zhangmu? :helpsmilie:
And which road? I would like to ride on the KKH from Kashgar... Is it allowed (and safe) to bivouac in Pakistan?
Well well well... still lot of questions, but if some of you have passed through those country and have informations, I would be pleased to read about your trip!

I look forward to read you!
Kind regards,
Virginie

vicreuter 15 Oct 2014 18:01

Tibet
 
bienvenue sur le Hubb Virginie !
Tiffany has done it ( amongst tons of other trips )
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...to-tibet-57427
Good start: u have the bike & looks in common :-)

CasperOntherOad 15 Oct 2014 22:11

Hi vic!
I have a lot of threads to read here! Thanks for the message and for the link!
:)

Tiger3 16 Oct 2014 22:20

hi
 
Bienvenue ici virginie,
je te souhaite une bonne prépa.
sincèrement
thierry

andymaxman 18 Oct 2014 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasperOntherOad (Post 482924)
..
The route from France to Torugart Pass in Kyrgyzstan is allready defined.
But from that point till Nepal, it seems to be a bit more complicated and expensive du to the local guide we must pay apparently!?!... ​

Hey Casper,
Can you share the route from France till Kyrgyz?
I am working on India-France this April.
From Zhangmu(China-Nepal border) till Khorgos(China-Kazakh) border crossing is the most expensive part of our trip.

Also, what is the route identified by you from Kyrgyz to Nepal?

CasperOntherOad 18 Oct 2014 19:49

Hey andymaxman!
I would like to ride from France to Moscou, Kazan, then travel to Astana in Kazakh and Go to Zaisan, in Altai Mountains (so beautiful!)!! Then go down the Charyn canyon National Park and finally, Issyk-Kul in Kirghizstan.
Pass in China by Torugart…
First, I thought I could ride on the KKH from Kashgar, Gilgit Islamabad and Lahore (in Pakistan) then ride to Ladakh before enter in Nepal…. and so on…
But as you said, riding in China is a very expensive part of the travel so I’m trying to find an other way to go to Nepal! And also, Pakistan is sometime unsafe…
Maybe from Iran and boat! …
In search of information for the moment...
Are you going to travel through India before Nepal and China?
Cheers!

Tiger3 18 Oct 2014 21:57

Hello handy and casper. I go in april may 2015 to Mongolia kirgyz and after in china to tibet after i would like to take plane with my gsa to return in france. I would like to try other bikers for travel china.
Tiger

Tiger3 18 Oct 2014 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiger3 (Post 483270)
Hello handy and casper. I go in april may 2015 to Mongolia kirgyz and after in china to tibet after i would like to take plane with my gsa to return in france. I would like to try other bikers for travel china.
Tiger

Hi andymaxman .
In april in kirgyzstan you can have moody traks and you can have snow.
For the moment we are two bikers for this trip.if you want...
Tiger
Casper of course ... !

andymaxman 19 Oct 2014 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasperOntherOad (Post 483259)
I would like to ride from France to Moscou, Kazan, then travel to Astana in Kazakh and Go to Zaisan, in Altai Mountains (so beautiful!)!! Then go down the Charyn canyon National Park and finally, Issyk-Kul in Kirghizstan.
Pass in China by Torugart…

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiger3 (Post 483270)
I go in april may 2015 to Mongolia kirgyz and after in china to tibet after i would like to take plane with my gsa to return in france. I would like to try other bikers for travel china.
Tiger

Hey Casper and Tiger,
I am from India and would be travelling from here till France and so the route query to find an economical way to enter Kazakh or Kyrgyz. At the moment it seems like China is a must. The route via Pakistan and Iran just might not be safe, considering i will be travelling with my wife and kids (7 and 11).

I will be keeping an eye out for what routes you guys eventually decide.


Off-topic - any idea why i do not get mails about new posts to my email id?

CasperOntherOad 20 Oct 2014 10:49

Hello!
I think traveling in Iran is safe, but it's not the case of Pakistan, and the road to Iran is not recommended at the moment apparently!

I have some quote from Chinese agencies, but expensive, so I'm still in search for a an other nice route from france to Nepal and go home!

That's a nice project to travel with your family andymaxman! :)
Where do you live in India?

By the way, do you know any ship company to cross from Mumbai to Dubai?

ps: no idea about mails! I don't either receive them!

andymaxman 21 Oct 2014 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasperOntherOad (Post 483389)
Where do you live in India?
By the way, do you know any ship company to cross from Mumbai to Dubai?

I live in Bangalore.

Try reaching these guys - Logistics Services, Air & Sea Freight Forwarders, Shipping, DUBAI ABU DHABI, U.A.E
They helped an expedition vehicle return back to India from London.

If you find luck and response from them, let me know, so i can reach out as well. :)
Cheers,

CasperOntherOad 21 Oct 2014 15:54

Hello!
Great! I'll try to contact them as soon as possible!
I have also a number to contact for a crossing from Dubai to Mumbay for vehicle and passangers! But this is not a regular crossing, I have to call them for details
I'll let you know!
In this case, your route to France will pass through U.A.E, Iran and Turkey and so on! It will be another voyage!

Anyway, I'm still searching a solution to ride into China and pass in Nepal and India!
To be continued! :)
Cheers!

Tiger3 21 Oct 2014 22:08

Good evening Casper Andymaxman,

Sorry for my late answer , It's a great adventure through these countries with your family. :mchappy:
We met a family of french who have made ​​this trip in 2013 here is their link travel. Les Simpsons en vadrouille !

For my part, I have to revisit this trip will be in 2016, because we are two for this year. i will open another post for not occupy this one of Virginie .
I will motivate several bikers on this trip in 2016, Casper keeps that in mind who knows ...
Thierry

Pongo 21 Oct 2014 23:34

Bonsoir a tous, et bienvenue.

Looks like a very well planned and exciting trip.

For information about China you need to contact Walter Colebatch on the HUBB, as he has significant experience in that part of the world. I believe it`s not that easy to ride a motorcycle into China.

Good luck with all you plans.

Tiger3 22 Oct 2014 08:28

Pongo Hello,
Jhon? (i'm thierry Floreck ) Thank's for your message For May 2015 i think that cross china DURING 2200 km aim agency want 2800 euros for that (crazy !!) (to kirguiz/Bulgan) I touch Walter Colebatch.. This year i will made ​​an antother trip, I will go to Georgia, Armenia, Iran, Turkmenistan and After in ride again on the Pamir Highway, Kyrgyzstan to go to Mongolia. i work my RB. Casper So, Vic, if you want !! Tiger

CasperOntherOad 24 Oct 2014 08:50

Hello there!

As you said Pongo, very exciting trip, but riding in China is much more complicated than expected!!
But it seems to be the best way to go to Nepal! So....
I will contact Walter Colebatch, maybe he has better solutions!
Thanks!
@Tiger, as you can see, I have an other program!
Enjoy your ride!
@andymaxman, no answer yet from the freight company! I'll let you know!...

Tiger3 24 Oct 2014 19:11

Thank you Virginie, I will follow your post with interest, for me it will be in 2016, we are already three riders to the KKH and Nepal.
Good Looking

Et prends soin de Casper, amitiés
Thierry

Pongo 27 Oct 2014 09:33

See also the South Asia section section on the HUBB, there are new postings about riding in China.

CasperOntherOad 27 Oct 2014 10:08

Hello there!
Thanks to you Pongo for this info! I've read the thread from Laura, and this is THE very best news I could read!! :mchappy:
To be continued!... :)

Kayjay 27 Oct 2014 10:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasperOntherOad (Post 483389)
Hello!
I think traveling in Iran is safe, but it's not the case of Pakistan, and the road to Iran is not recommended at the moment apparently!

I have some quote from Chinese agencies, but expensive, so I'm still in search for a an other nice route from france to Nepal and go home!

That's a nice project to travel with your family andymaxman! :)
Where do you live in India?

By the way, do you know any ship company to cross from Mumbai to Dubai?

ps: no idea about mails! I don't either receive them!

Hi Casper,

I can help in your shipping matter in India.

The Shipping agent in India - get in contact with Uttam Banerjee - International Operations.

You will need to send him the following for a quote.
A) DOCUMENTS :-
1.CARNET
2. Passport /Visa of the passenger/Tourist
3. Airlines Ticket
4. Departure Certificate.
4. Invoice & Packing List (We will prepare on the basis of said documents)

B) INFORMATION'S :

1. Port/Airport of Loading
2. Port /Airport of Delivery

Write to him intl under score cour under score dept unde score at gati dot com his mobile nine nine zero three nine seven four one seven one. you can give him my reference.

DO drop in Gujarat State when in India. You are welcome.

Kayjay - Ride your dream
:thumbup1:

Kayjay 27 Oct 2014 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasperOntherOad (Post 482924)
Hello there!
I'm working on our next trip. We will be 2 or 3 motorbike. :mchappy:
We hope to go to Nepal passing by Kirghiz, China, Tibet, and then, down to India, Pakistan, Iran Turquie and hOme ... We project to ​go in 1 year or more...
The route from France to Torugart Pass in Kyrgyzstan is allready defined.
But from that point till Nepal, it seems to be a bit more complicated and expensive du to the local guide we must pay apparently!?!... ​
It seems that riding on his own motorbike is quite expensive in china? I read that we have to travel with an agency or local guide?
But once crossing the China border, can we​ drive by our own or do we have to ride with the guide to Zhangmu? :helpsmilie:
And which road? I would like to ride on the KKH from Kashgar... Is it allowed (and safe) to bivouac in Pakistan?
Well well well... still lot of questions, but if some of you have passed through those country and have informations, I would be pleased to read about your trip!

I look forward to read you!
Kind regards,
Virginie

Casper

Welcome to India
Be my guest.

I stay in India and give me a shout when you need any thing this end.

Kayjay :thumbup1::welcome:

CasperOntherOad 27 Oct 2014 11:09

Hi Kayjay!
Thank you for these posts and email contact! :)
For the moment, I don't have documents to request a quote, but I keep your information and as soon as my project has advanced a little, I'll contact them!
Cheers
:mchappy:

MuzToo 13 Mar 2015 10:33

Hi Virginie. We will go through China:
MuzToo Abenteuer Seidenstrasse

Let me know if you are interested so we can quote you how much it is to use our guide.

CasperOntherOad 15 Mar 2015 02:31

Hello "Muztoo"!
Thanks for your message!
Unfortunately I won't gO to Nepal this year! ...
But when I'll be ready for this project, I will contact you!

I have already meet one of you in your office at Osh, in june 2013 during our voyage France Pamir! :)
If someday I have to cross China, I will contact you for quote!
Virginie


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