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Nick_ish 18 Feb 2015 18:49
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Originally Posted by Simo (Post 495862)
Hello Nick_ish
Thanks mate... A long way off, but yes will give a shout....if you are around.....

Cheers Phil
Can always find me through facebook if needs be! nick wheels wood :)
Enjoy your planning!:rofl:

Simo 19 Feb 2015 10:12
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Originally Posted by ta-rider (Post 495902)
Hi,

Well for the bike i would have bought a Honda Transalp 650 for just 2000 Euro in Europa, register and insure it on a friends name (resident) and ride the EU with it (not Russia and Turkey) and when you bring it back to your friend he will return you 1000 of your deposit and then sell the bike for 1500 so he will earn 500 for helping you and you will have a cheap bike.

Anyway to ride inside of the EU is very easy once you have the Shengen visa so if i would skip russia and ride Norway and Poland to stay inside of Shengen.
Romania is not part of Shengen but part of EU. Complicate.

The so calles *stans around the black sea are not very easy when it comes to visa as well but to ride down the coast from Austria, Slowenia, Kroatia down to Greece (Albania ist not EU) or ride down Italy to skip Albania and take the ferry to Greece you can ride to Turkey (not EU) as well.

Visa stuff allways makes traveling very hard. Otherwise it would also be great to take the ferry from Italy to Tunesie or from France to Marocco as well. With a German passport I dont need a Visa for this but have no idea about Australien Passports...

Enjoy it, Tobi
I guess it comes down to what you prefer. Economically , you are right... But my irrational / fun side is telling me to ride my bike , so at this stage I plan to do that ...:funmeteryes::...

I ( Australian citizen ) only need a visa for Belarus 3 day approval , Ukraine a little more involved, so all good if I go that way,
Once again Tobi , your advise is very much appreciated

Eshark 19 Feb 2015 11:16
Simo,
I can advise you in Scandinavia. If you plan to made Atlantic road and Geiringer (Trollstigen)- Than for Scandinavia you shall considered at least a week.
I would suggest you to be flexible on direction planning as well because you cannot relay on extended forecast.

Simo 20 Feb 2015 03:59
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Originally Posted by Eshark (Post 495998)
Simo,
I can advise you in Scandinavia. If you plan to made Atlantic road and Geiringer (Trollstigen)- Than for Scandinavia you shall considered at least a week.
I would suggest you to be flexible on direction planning as well because you cannot relay on extended forecast.
Hello Eshark

Yes I had allowed about 10 days for Norway/Sweden, looks pretty remote up in the north west. Not sure about going that far up, may turn at Kristiansund.

Wildman 20 Feb 2015 08:01
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Originally Posted by ta-rider (Post 495849)
No, as long as you dont just want to stick to the highway and race around you will need more time…
I don't agree with this.

The route is perhaps 16-18k kms to be covered in about 100 days leaving three weeks to ride the additional routes in the Alps. Even adding a margin for more miles and including some rest days and border crossing time, you still end up with little more than 200 kms needed per riding day. That, in my opinion, is manageable and reasonable. YMMV.

navalarchitect 21 Feb 2015 01:11
Based on past experience I find I average slightly over 1000k a week on a longer trip so if the route is 16 - 18000 kilometers (I haven't checked) then for me 4 months would be about right. For info my riding style is to avoid free ways and to regularly spend two nights at interesting spots and typically do 300 to 600 k days when I'm riding. Hope this helps with the planning.

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Foxy V-Strom 21 Feb 2015 02:25
2nd time over from Australia
 
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Hi Simo,

My wife and I will be starting a 3 month camping holiday in Europe on the 1st of May. We are shipping our Suzuki V-Strom from Melbourne Aust to the UK return for around A$3,700.00. I am planning on 15-20K km and it is a lot of km in 3 months. We are using David Milligan at "Get Routed" to ship the Suzuki. I did look into buying and or renting but decided to take my motorcycle as there is nothing quite like taking your own, and having it set up the way you like. This is our second time over with this Suzuki and we had a great time last visit. I have I think attached the two routes I have planned, the decision will be made at Gibraltar. Hope this helps

Anthony

Simo 21 Feb 2015 06:31
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Originally Posted by Wildman (Post 496092)
I don't agree with this.

The route is perhaps 16-18k kms to be covered in about 100 days leaving three weeks to ride the additional routes in the Alps. Even adding a margin for more miles and including some rest days and border crossing time, you still end up with little more than 200 kms needed per riding day. That, in my opinion, is manageable and reasonable. YMMV.
I have a not ruled out the original route, but it is great to get every ones views.
I am learning more everyday through this site. I just don't wish to waste time and money obtaining a Russian visa if i dont use it. Thank you it is much appreciated Eshark

Simo 21 Feb 2015 06:36
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Originally Posted by navalarchitect (Post 496144)
Based on pay experience I find I average slightly over 1000k a week on a longer trip so if the route is 16 - 18000 kilometers (I haven't checked) then for me 4 months would be about right. For info my riding style is to avoid free ways and to regularly spend two nights at interesting spots and typically do 300 to 600 k days when I'm riding. Hope this helps with the planning.

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Hello navalarchitect,

Thank you for your input, yes I need a day off the bike once a week, some times 2 days...and avoid freeways in good weather. If the rain is coming down sometimes I will ride them to get to my destination.

Cheers Phil

Simo 21 Feb 2015 07:04
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Originally Posted by Foxy V-Strom (Post 496146)
Hi Simo,

My wife and I will be starting a 3 month camping holiday in Europe on the 1st of May. We are shipping our Suzuki V-Strom from Melbourne Aust to the UK return for around A$3,700.00. I am planning on 15-20K km and it is a lot of km in 3 months. We are using David Milligan at "Get Routed" to ship the Suzuki. I did look into buying and or renting but decided to take my motorcycle as there is nothing quite like taking your own, and having it set up the way you like. This is our second time over with this Suzuki and we had a great time last visit. I have I think attached the two routes I have planned, the decision will be made at Gibraltar. Hope this helps

Anthony
Hello Anthony,
The trip looks good, thank you for sharing. yes it sounds a lot ,though divide it up and its not so scary.
I looked at "Get Routed" as there round trip price is good. As I want to stay longer and they cant guarantee a later shipping, there one way price was on par with others. I will probably go with ship my bike as everything is included. Port fees ,Customs ,Insurance,Uncrating and they will store my bike for free up to 3 weeks so I dont have to rush and meet it at the dock....Yes I asked my self many times "what would I like to ride around Europe? and I keep coming back to the same answer... My own bike. so at the moment I'll go with that.

Have you organised insurance yet as i would like to hear about it.... PM me or post here if you are Ok with it...

cheers Phil

JustMe 21 Feb 2015 12:09
Just for calculation: On family vacations with the kids - my youngest riding a Yamaha 125WR now - we´re doing 4.500km in 21 days in Europe and could easily do more whilst having time for sightseeing and relax days. Been to Northern Norway, Wales, Ukraine, Italy and all in between.

BTW, interestingly you´re basically skipping Germany. Not sure why, but you should trade a couple of thousand kms of boring atlantic coast for the Rhine valley.
Cheers
Chris

ta-rider 21 Feb 2015 12:42
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Originally Posted by Wildman (Post 496092)
you still end up with little more than 200 kms needed per riding day.
Yes but riding 200 km without highway is at least 4 hours per day. A few days break here and there and your holliday turns into a rush...

Simo 21 Feb 2015 21:14
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Originally Posted by Keks (Post 496175)
Just for calculation: On family vacations with the kids - my youngest riding a Yamaha 125WR now - we´re doing 4.500km in 21 days in Europe and could easily do more whilst having time for sightseeing and relax days. Been to Northern Norway, Wales, Ukraine, Italy and all in between.

BTW, interestingly you´re basically skipping Germany. Not sure why, but you should trade a couple of thousand kms of boring atlantic coast for the Rhine valley.
Cheers
Chris
,

Hello Chris

Yes it looks on the rough map outline that I am bypassing Germany, I had planned to Travel from Neuschwanstein Castle at the very end to the Rhine to Burg Eltz castle..Which part of the Rhine valley do you recommend, or all of it??
cheers Phil

Foxy V-Strom 22 Feb 2015 00:08
Insurance.
 
Hi Simo, Insurance can be difficult, Dave gave us a good lead for the Green Slip and that is Tour Insurer (TourInsure: Europe) and for 3 months 696 Euro and we went with CGU for travel insurance at A$1380.00. The Suzuki while in the container is covered under Dave's insurance including all dock fees etc.

Hope this helps

Anthony

Simo 22 Feb 2015 08:14
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Originally Posted by Foxy V-Strom (Post 496235)
Hi Simo, Insurance can be difficult, Dave gave us a good lead for the Green Slip and that is Tour Insurer (TourInsure: Europe) and for 3 months 696 Euro and we went with CGU for travel insurance at A$1380.00. The Suzuki while in the container is covered under Dave's insurance including all dock fees etc.

Hope this helps

Anthony
Cheers Anthony,

Your a champion thank you, gives me something to work with. I would be interested to here about your trip when you get back .....wishing you and your wife a safe and awesome trip....
Phil


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