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haggis 17 Mar 2014 09:58

Dangerous roads in Americas
 
Hi Guys

I'm riding through the Americas soon and filming for TV series. I want to go from Alaska to Argentina and pick up interesting roads. So far I have a few on the list, the interesting one being death road Bolivia among several others.
The Dalton highway is mentioned as well. Is there any in Western side of USA I should add to the list?

Thanks

IanJ 17 Mar 2014 10:05

I found this site a few weeks back, it might have some roads that might interest you.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ar-roads-74758

Ian J

niello8 17 Mar 2014 13:13

This one could be nice n hairy...saline hot springs

Road Trip: Saline Valley Hot Springs | RideApart

haggis 17 Mar 2014 13:59

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Originally Posted by niello8 (Post 458373)
This one could be nice n hairy...saline hot springs

Road Trip: Saline Valley Hot Springs | RideApart

thats handy. I ride through death valley on the way to Mammoth. Thanks mate :)

mollydog 17 Mar 2014 19:59

No dangerous roads in Northern California. Not much to see here either. Best get down to So Cal. Very dangerous roads.
(they call them Freeways!)

If you do find dangerous California roads ... please do not name them in your film. Let riders find them by themselves!

All the dangerous roads are in Colorado. Head EAST mate!

steveharpt 18 Mar 2014 00:27

Chile
 
I wouldn't call it dangerous, but the road from Puerto Montt to Chile Chico, Chile, is very beautiful. You have to take a few ferries, but it was much better than riding in the wind in Argentina. The best bit is around Lake General Carrera.

anonymous1 18 Mar 2014 01:14

Copper Canyon
 
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The Copper Canyon.

Creel, Urque, Batopilas to Guachochi. Not to be missed!

P/S the guns n thugs were real!

Danny Diego 18 Mar 2014 02:38

The OP asked for "dangerous" not "best" roads.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 458415)
Sorry ... not revealing any of our roads to be put on TV. Next thing you know some ass hat will be leading guided tours and the place will be crawling with cops ...ruining the whole area for everyone. doh
We are motorcyclists, not a FOR PROFIT business. :nono:

If you do find our best California roads ... please do not name them in your film and no GPS coordinates either. Let riders find them by themselves.
California is not your personal Disneyland for hire.

As we natives say:
:welcome: WELCOME TO CALIFORNIA .... now go home! :welcome:

:Beach:


mollydog 18 Mar 2014 03:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Diego (Post 458464)
The OP asked for "dangerous" not "best" roads.

Sorry for being less than welcoming ... I just see so much commercialization coming in from all sides. I'll edit my post so as not to offend visitors.

markharf 18 Mar 2014 05:23

My idea would be that we all skip the direct insults, while trying to stay civil in disagreeing about the issues….whatever they are.

Thanks.

Mark

niello8 18 Mar 2014 07:50

Oh how could I forget the Tail of the Dragon? It's between Tennessee & South Carolina (but you aren't headed all the way over there...)

This road is dangerous in that it's notorious so every joe schmo wants to have a crack at it. There is a tree of shame festooned with crashed bike parts in the middle. The road itself is not that bad, very nice & twisty but good paved tarmac. We rode it at night when it was nice n empty and naturally came upon a biker who had just gone down. (He was fine)

Tim Cullis 19 Mar 2014 09:16

I've driven the Tail of the Dragon more than a dozen times, never fails to impress.

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ardnfar 25 Mar 2014 11:11

It may be outside your original route but you might want to search Google 'images' for Shafer Trail in Utah. It's about 30kms West of Moab, Utah. I rode it a few years ago on an 800gs and my knuckles were white, all the way. I don't like heights which of course, was the whole point of riding it. Utah is spectacular. If Shafer Trail interests you, message me and I'll send you or post GPS coordinates. I also did a 20 minute video of it. All the best on your trip.

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VWVagabonds 26 Mar 2014 03:05

El Espinazo del Diablo / The Devil's Backbone between Durango and Mazatlan in Mexico is still hairy but is no longer as dangerous as it once was.

Taming the Devil's Backbone: How the Durango-Mazatlan Highway will revitalize northern Mexico | Mail Online

14A from the coast to Huaraz, Peru.

Also, I second the Drwnite's suggestion of the road to Batopilas...

http://home.comcast.net/~jimfontana/...helicopter.jpg

anonymous1 26 Mar 2014 04:10

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Originally Posted by ardnfar (Post 459513)
Shafer Trail in Utah. It's about 30kms West of Moab, Utah. I rode it a few years ago on an 800gs and my knuckles were white, all the way. I also did a 20 minute video of it.

Post the Video ;-)

AndyT 26 Mar 2014 16:23

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Originally Posted by VWVagabonds (Post 459664)
Also, I second the Drwnite's suggestion of the road to Batopilas...

http://home.comcast.net/~jimfontana/...helicopter.jpg

....although this has been paved, so a little less dangerous than it was.

PaulNomad 27 Mar 2014 03:10

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Originally Posted by Drwnite (Post 458456)
The Copper Canyon.

Creel, Urque, Batopilas to Guachochi. Not to be missed!

I would add that the dirt road from Urique to Batopilas is probably the most challenging of many challenging roads in Copper Canyon. This was told to me by Ivan from The 3 Amigos Adventures, Creel, who rides there regularly and is a long-time supporter of HU. He was at the 2004 HU meeting in Creel.

I think Drwnite has played it down and can give a good first-hand update...Dave?

PN

anonymous1 27 Mar 2014 06:13

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Ivan is correct and a real gentleman, I had the good fortune to pull up right outside his shop ;-) The dirt road from about 70 K's outside Creel to Urique, Batopilas and on to Guachochi is the most challenging road I've travelled, on 2 wheels anyway ;-)

Conditions can change fast, like the Batopilas River, I got up at 4am to check due to being warned it was going to flood, nothing! Went back, checked again at 5am and it had risen 4 meters and it rose a further 3! Then there was the ride out, 9 hours going for it, man what a mission, muddy roads, 2700m passes and plenty of creek crossings! My water bottle slipped out from under the ocky straps between Urique and Batopilas due to the footy sized rocks covering the road! The result 4 hours no water! I was drier than a pommy's towel! Funny once I got to Batopilas I all but jumped the counter to get a drink, well maybe I did ;-) Go prepared!

A couple of very dodgy locals in Guachochi, the local head of the electricity company, Hector turned up just as things were heading towards WTF? To ginger grins and photos! Hector saved the day and told me I was very lucky he turned up and I didn't run into these guys after dark! Despite it all, I'd do it again at the drop of a hat!

Mate, the one thing I regret is not taking more photos, you're going to love every inch of it !

Dela Toha 12 Apr 2014 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveharpt (Post 458450)
I wouldn't call it dangerous, but the road from Puerto Montt to Chile Chico, Chile, is very beautiful. You have to take a few ferries, but it was much better than riding in the wind in Argentina. The best bit is around Lake General Carrera.

Did it in bicycle in December, no rain most of the month, and no people, after New years eve I've heard it's packed with people.

Peter Bodtke 13 Apr 2014 16:36

Peru...not western USA
 
(Crossed posted to another thread by accident)
The Death Road of Bolivia historically was a very dangerous road. Since a modern highway was built across the valley that runs in twisting parallel, its my impression that the heavy truck traffic has moved off the narrow road with its sheer drop offs. Yet the accidents continue.

Definitely worth a ride. You can't really say you rode Bolivia without going there. When I was there the road was mostly trafficked by by clots of mountain bikers brought by the van load from backpacker hostels in La Paz.

The road up the backside of Machu Picchu from Santa Maria to Santa Teressa is rather hair raising and includes several water crossing those depth depends solely of the amount of recent rainfall. If you plan to visit Peru and want to ride as close as possible to Macchu Picchu, then have your camera ready. There are easier ways to get there, but who wants to go that way? No bragging rights what so ever.

http://goo.gl/maps/GDvW7

birddogvet 22 Apr 2014 20:54

My Peruvian Choice
 
In South America, take the roads less traveled. From Cusco head south to Espinar. Thereafter, you will not be disappointed as you cross the Andes to Orcopampa. If that suits you continue to Cotahuasi the world's deepest canyon. Be mindful of 'La Tocha.' The road surface of
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haggis 25 Apr 2014 03:38

Thanks for all the suggestions guys! Gives me a lot to chew over :)

klous-1 25 May 2014 11:28

South America is packed with great challenging roads, I don't really like to name names, it doesn't seem in the spirit of things and a big part of any tough road is the mental aspect: not knowing what is coming.

johnnail 25 May 2014 13:43

any back road in Indiana during Farming activity....like now. Trucks,tractors with planters, and semis parked and moving everywhere. Very common to come around a blind curve, and meet one taking up the entire roadway.

doogle 19 Jul 2014 03:51

You may be gone by now.But the Yungas Road in Bolivia was a let down for me. There are a couple good photo ops. But when I got to the top,where it meets the new road,I turned around and went back down a ways. I thought I must have missed a turn off,where the scary stuff was. It was a very dangerous road when there was 2 way traffic trying to edge past others in tight spots. And as steep as the mountains are,many people were killed from landslides when it rained.

I want to dido what Peter Bodtke said above. The road from Santa Maria to Santa Teresa was unnerving. I rode it at night in the rain and lightening because a landslide had a road blocked for hours earlier. What was supposed to be a 9 mile route into Santa Teresa from Santa Maria was 13 miles. I may have been off course.

As for dangerous roads in the USA, they aren't allowed. You didn't say if you were looking for dangerous paved roads or if trails were on your list. The Black Bear Pass going into Telluride,Colorado is a short scenic ride by a steep drop off. In nearby Moab,Utah there are many off road rides. Lions Back,Baby Lions Back,Hells Revenge are a few interesting very short rides that go up narrow red rock ridges. Not to be done on a touring bike. Google "Lions Back Moab images" for some great pictures of the area.

You can also find some rock arches to ride across. This area is near the top of my list for places to visit. I wish it was 1500 miles closer to my home.


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