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Electric 'race' bikes Isle of Man...eek!
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Nothing to eek about, at least the future goes frickin' fast! :rofl:
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Hardly any sound from them that makes it very difficult for marshals dealing with an on course incident, marshals, only supplied with a few pairs of rubber gloves and a few bottles of water between them! 1 lap only, the organisers were hell bent on having them on the TT course, why not multi lap on the Billown course that held meetings pre and after the TT?. £10.000 offered by the organisers for an electric bike to do a 100mph lap, when Klaus Klaffenbock only got £10.000 for leading and winning the 3 lap sidecar race. 'Proper' race bikes were doing a 100mph lap back in 1957.
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Sidecars are great. I've done a couple of laps of Cadwell Park on an F1 sidecar and maximum respect to them. They're probably not the future of anything though, sadly. Remember when Amazon was an expensive failure and being told that IBM said there would only be a market for a couple of computers at most? All future vehicles will be 'silent', electric or hydrogen etcc, so what are you saying - you're going to miss changing oil and doing valve clearances in the damn things? |
To deal with the lack of noise issue, can't you stick and old fag packet into the spokes like we used to on our push bikes?
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There may be a time when an electric bike TT will be justifiable ,but it's not now .
There are several bike classes that could have been included instead of the electric bike class and quite honestly the logic of having just a one lap race [ 37 3/4 miles ] escapes me . However the "powers that be" are known to be eccentric and have thought up some daft classes over the years . I imagine that for most TT spectators the electric bikes were a big yawn . The whine of an electric motor will hardly make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up now will it ? |
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Fuel cell / electric hybrid bikes are a future that I can't wait for. Ease of use, programability, flexible fueling, fantastic acceleration and SILENCE for everyone else is just what I like about the whole thing. Bring it on. |
Ah so ,I'm daft am I ?
Your apparent willingness to rid the world of the internal combustion engine seems to contradict your love of sidecar racing [ which are still powered by piston engines ,I believe] .So perhaps you are daft as well . I think you are confusing technology with the spectacle of racing . For most people this means the sound ,smell and adrenaline rush of very powerful internal combustion engines at close quarters ridden by extremely skilled riders . I suppose there will come a day when a racing spectator will complain about the "noise" of an MV , Manx Norton , Britten etc at full chat ,but I think it's a long way off .If SILENCE is your cup of tea , that's fine ,but I doubt that the majority of race fans would agree . Electric bike racing will happen ,but I agree with Dave that the TT with it's present safety standards and marshall training is not the place to do it at the moment . My comments were about racing in the TT ,not about electric technology , go back and read what I ACTUALLY wrote . You don't know me or what my views about electric technology are , so try to stay on topic and keep your glib ,ignorant comments to yourself . |
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I think that some people are mistaking 'real road racing' with something that should be kept to experimental test tracks. |
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94.664mph unofficially. 131.1 at Sulby speed trap |
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Pos No. Rider Machine/Entrant Time Speed Replica 1 3 Mark Miller MotoCzysz E1PC / MotoCzysz 23 22.89 96.820 Silver 2 1 Robert Barber Agni / AGNI Racing 25 21.19 89.290 Bronze 3 4 James McBride Man TTX / Man TTX Racing 25 32.13 88.653 Bronze 4 2 Jennifer Tinmouth Agni / AGNI Racing 25 39.50 88.228 Bronze 5 9 George Spence Peter Williams / Kingston University 34 59.19 64.705 Fastest Lap - 3 Mark Miller 23 mins 22.89 secs 96.820 mph Total No. of Completed Laps - 5 Total Mileage - 188.65 The Answer to your question is96.820 mph, note that there were only 5 in the 'race' and the 5th bikes lap speed was 64.705 mph. If the big thing about these bikes is Zero emissions, and the 'race' was billed as the TT Zero, then why was they so obsessed with speed and not economy? and was the production of a complete 'race' bike carbon friendly? These scientists, universities, and green party nutters are welcome to produce what they like, but keep thier inventions to the appropriate place, and the majority of TT race fans would give a BIG no thank you to having these at the TT. |
Thanks very much Ed and Dave.
Sounds rather quick to me. |
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Let's hope the TT is still going strong in another 100 years ,I'm sure the bikers of the future will have as much fun as we do . |
[quote]I have - you're critisiting the 'powers that be' when they're the ones who have saved the TT (which as we all know was pretty close to not ever happening again after the Foot&Mouth saga). The TT and Manx are only a couple of weeks a year but even those are a privilege, not a right and if we don't take steps towards the social agenda of our time - noise or pollution etc. - it may one day cease to exist.[quote]
Where on earth did you get this gem of information from?. After the cancellation of the 2001 TT due to F&M, the Isle of Man Government stated that if the same was to occur again they would run the races and if necessary compensate the local farmers. By a statement like this it goes to show that it would have been more cost effective to compensate rather than lose the vast revenue the TT brings into the Island. The Island supports 3 major road race meetings covering 5 weeks, these being the TT 2 weeks, Manx GP 2 weeks and the Southern 100 1 week. There is, and always will be unfounded rumours, none more so than leading up to the 2007 Centenary TT. |
Well hindsight tends to turn these things into rumours. As an international website it helps to voice another opinion about things including the TT. Some of my resident friends tell me they would like to see an end to the TT because of the disruption and I clearly remember reports in the last 10 years that suggested the races might be at risk. Hopefully the event will continue to coexist happily with the residents of the island and the current popular sentiment about road racing in general means we can enjoy it for years to come.
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It's not just bikes ,the Isle of Man hosts car,classic car and kart events .
Trials ,hillclimbs,sprints,rallies ,closed road events, etc, etc . Probably cycling and other sporting events too . All bring "off island" money and are a huge part of the local economy .I don't think much will change .If a few locals are a little peeved ,they have the opportunity to take a holiday :palm::Beach:and rent out their house to TT fans :rain::mchappy::rain:. Seems a good trade off to me . |
Hi Dodger, The Isle of Man does host a vast selection of sporting activities with the exception of the Kart race around the streets of Peel that was stopped some years back, although I believe it does continue on airfield circuits. Enduro is also popular there and some of my club mates from SE London have been over a few times for a 'fast eddy' event. Another event that I think is now defunct was the cycle race held on the full TT mountain circuit, I happened to be over on the Island when this event was taking place some years back, an eerie feeling with the roads being closed and all around 'silence' until the cycles came past in big 'whoosh' then silence again until they had 'trod' their way round 37.73 miles!. anyone interested in the Isle of Man motorsport can visit Isle of Man Motorsports - TT Races, Kart and Drag Racing Information . Although a relatively expensive Island to get to with a motor vehicle, once there you will find it an enchanting Island, one that has drawn me there for 29 TT's, 1 Souhern 100, and 1 Manx GP, the reason for only 1 Manx GP is because they do not have Sidecar races at that meeting!
Edteamslr, you have a pm! |
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