Royal Enfield Tool box
 

Hi Guys I am getting ready for a long journey( 10000 Miles) in India and want to know what to put in my tool box for a Royal Enfield, I have a great one but its metric so I don't think that will help much.
Any good comment welcome.

Thanks

the usual.....
 

Yawn......:rofl:.. Dude... this has been covered so many times!

Tools that fit your bike and you know how to use!

Martyn

Royal Enfield tools
 

I did a search on the HUBB prior my post but didn't find anything good , but your comment was really helpfull .

Thanks

Couldn't find anything GOOD?????????

what do you want dude, Spoonfeeding?? Good Grief, you pass yourself off as a Traveller* (see below) and then have to ask "What tools do I need?" to fix a Bike that is MADE in India and will be able to be fixed by just about any half competent Indian Mechanic you come across......

Hendikaf, this is your Bio..... Yes???????
Biography:World traveller* I enjoy freedom and life as much as possibleYour website:http://www.hendikaf.com/Description of your current trip, or a major trip:did all South America in the 90 , Africa and europe, just finish Cambodia and Laos ,just done Central America this year , will be in Cambodia in DecemBike Manufacturer:KawasakiTravel Bike year:2003Bike Model:KLR650 , XR250,R1200Other bikes owned:FJR1300ABS,BMW 900S,GS80,K75RT, Ducati900SS,1200 Bandit,XR250,XRl250,MZ125Past bike travel destinations?:Africa, Asia, Europe, SE Asia, Russia and area, North America, Central America, South AmericaFuture trips planned? Where?:RTW, Asia, South America



I suggest if you have to ask the above question when you have so much "Experience" you take up another Hobby such as Crochet, or Knitting.....:rofl:

Martyn

Royal Enfield
 

I guess you are a bit mad , I am a traveler and certainly covered more miles than you did in your worthless life .I never owned or drove an Enfield and like to know what type of tools to take if any special?,You may learn that each bike have different tools I found online that some part maybe metric some not?.I like to share info and not insult (like you). The post was intended for people with interest in responding if not just do like me and read the next post , I found a bit weird to be insulted by someone I never met but if your road cross Florida come to meet me and maybe you can appologise on your knee for your attitude .

Have a great day

Tut Tut!
 

Hendi, dear Chap.... perhaps you would like take your comments back? i DID AFTER ALL PUT A :rofl: in there! meaning it was pureley tongue in cheek... you know, Humour.....( sorry, forgot, Americans dont have a SOH do they?)

Firstly, You are the one that Insults, saying my life is worthless...... How would you know? I can put a fair bet on I have been to more countries and places than you, but I dont feel the need to Brag about it...

all I did was point out that you say Your a traveller yet you dont know what to put in your toolbox?? TRY REPHRASING YOUR QUESTION

You say you find it "weird" to be insulted by someone you dont know? you should sureley be used to that being a yank?:rofl:

Come on Hendi! I wasnt meaning to start a war, but you did appear a bit dense in your post! try rephrasing the questions instead of being lazy and only posting a few words Dude!

Martyn

How old
 

Hi how old y bike, I have a 91 500 and 1990 350 most sizes are witworth, just go round your bike with a few spanners you will only need about 5 or 6,

Have done quite a few mods to mine 500 (amal carb, reworked samrat rockers, power box (no need for a battery)TKC tyres, trials kit, lower gearbox sprocket, engine rebuild etc, just about to fit electronic ignition, just picked up enfield panniers on ebay £40.00

I must say one of the best most fun easy to fix bikes I have:cool4:

My advice for any bike is to go get the manual and then do a full service on your bike. Keep -every- tool you needed to do that. plus remove and refit the wheels and tyres. again keep all the tools used. Carry spare cables, a chain, set of bulbs and puncture repair outfit... Not sure about the repair outfit, my last puncture on a motorcycle was in 1962, well over 100k miles ago. But, if you have it you probably wont need it.

Royal Enfield
 

Thanks guys , I think I will take my basic tools from the state and buy some witworth ones when I will be in India , you are right its always better to take only the tools you use to service the bike but since I don't have yet the R E I was trying to built the tool kit in advance.
I have a a friend of mine which is going to give me the manual for the bike and then I will be shopping in India .

Cheers

Fellow is

buying a bike in India .. that he has not had before .. not even close to that type of bike.

Wants to know what tools that bike uses .. so he can get them before he goes ?

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HendiKaf
I'd not bother getting tools for it before you buy the bike .. you should be able to buy then there. I'd take your puncture repair kit, the unerversial tools. And then pick up the others when there .. the bike may even come with some tools ..

Distance may well be short from one enfield mechaic in India too .. so if they will fix your bike for 30 cents while you sit back with a free cup of tea?

And tools weight a lot - how much baggage alowance you got on the air flight out?

just to show no hard feelins....
 

Here ya go Hendi! in the US of A too!

And follow the advice on the site BUY A SPARE KICK START PAWL! you may regret it if ya dont........

Royal Enfield Super Factory Service Manual [Z91088] | Royal Enfield Parts and Accessories

Martyn

Read some place that India will not let you take India bike out of India or some thing but Nepal will. Read to that there are different "class" of bikes and the ones for export are better made.

Id just have the Indian mechaics fix the bike wile your there. And pick up the tools they use If you see an odd looking one see if they will sell it to you. If not see if they know where to find one or have one made.



was hoping for a flame war :innocent:

decent tyre levers. the one's you might get with the bike are weak, especially if you try and put TKC 80's on.

small multi-meter, if you're bothered about having electrics. though it might just open a can of worms...

liquid gasket.

plastic metal.

head-torch.

and a box of Matches! for when your REALLY fed up with the Damn thing!:rofl::oops2:

Now if you were talking DIESEL Enfield..... youd have my full support......:thumbup1:

I have a Fuji robin Enfield, does that mean I can be your friend :clap:

or just have your support ? :innocent:

No
 

You mean my athletic support? :eek3: or My friendship and cameraderie?:rofl:

athletic support or caminando ? dylexics rule k.o! :rofl:

roflmao
 

Is there a Difference? Probably Smell the Same?:eek3:

I hired an Enfield in India and suffered major problems.....

Kickstart kept falling off.
Kept jumping out of third gear.
Serious brake fade.
Fork seals popping out.
Tappets working loose every 100Km.
Air Box fell off.
Upon fitting the Air Box back on it shorted out the electrics leaving a molten mess in three places.

Being niave at the time I trusted the hirer and took the ONLY tool he said i would need, an Adjustable spanner. I repaired everything with this spanner, a knife, some tape and rocks beside the road. Any time i needed anything else i found it at local roadside repair shops.
My advice,
...Adjustable spanners - small and large
...Spanners of common sizes i.e. for tappets and frame fixings
...Screwdriver
...Electrical tape
...Multimeter

Buy it all local for a few pounds. Use roadside repair shops, they are good and cheap. Let them do the chain adjustments, oil changes etc...

There are basically 3 types of Enfield, Ones sold in Britain, that are put together half reasonable, Ones in India, as you hired, and ones wher the engine is junked in favour of a Diesel:mchappy:

By the sound of the one you hired, you got a reliable one! :rofl:

Even though the bike gave me hell I was reluctant to give it back, it never left me stranded. I was amazed at how it just kept going even though it was falling apart. :mchappy:

To your tool kit add some tire levers and puncture kit, I could have repaired a tube with my Knife and Tape but I think it would be have been difficult.

Its worth the money......
 

Honestly....... even on a Hire bike if you are doing a LONG ride... its worth banging some ULTRASEAL in the Tyres/Tubes.
want to wrestle with changing a tyre in 40 degree plus heat? Not Me!:nono:
I would rather pay $30 for the ULTRASEAL and not have that worry


Ultraseal Tire Sealant

PS, I know, you think I have some connection with them.... I dont.
I just think its a DAMN FINE PRODUCT!

Martyn

ULTRASEAL would be so boring........:biggrin3:

Its not an adventure unless you get a puncture in the middle of nowhere without the means to repair it, hoping someone will come along to rescue you, rationing your last litre of water then deciding your only option is to push the bike 200Km to the nearest repair shop.

Or you could use your clothing as an emergency inner tube. Why make life safe when it can be exciting.

I will be using Ultraseal on my next RTW trip.

Ultraseal has saved my ass loads
 

I have used said product on EVERY bike I have ever had, well, in the last 10 years, slime before that.
OK Tyrefitters HATE it, but I find a couple of quid for a Pint pressed into palm of fitters hand and the explanation, " sorry mate, didn't know it was in there" usually works....:innocent:
I had an XV1600 Wildstar in the UK and discovered that i had ran over at some time a box of spilled Carpet Tacks..... 8 in the Tyre and it still held Air!

Martyn

It really depends on the bike itself. If it's from the mid nineties or before then it will be hung together with a mixture of pre metric fasteners in various thread forms. Later than that and there are more and more metric fasteners, plus of course older bikes may have had metric fasteners fitted during their lifetimes.

As for specific tools - not a great deal required. On later metric bikes 2x 13mm and 1x 10mm spanners will be needed for adjusting the tappets, and an 8mm spanner for adjusting the timing. A test lamp and a couple of jumper wires comes in very handy for checking and adjusting the timing, plus fault finding. Whether this will be a 6v or 12v system is open to a wild guess. Would certainly recommend a quality pair of tyre levers as the ones supplied in the tool kit are zinc plated cheese. A god quality repair kit also goes a long way to easing some problems.

Spares might be a more interesting question, but if you're in India I shouldn't think it would be too much difficulty to source them as and when.

Is everyone loving everyone else again now? So good to see.

That Enfield manual looks pretty good - just got a photocopy of the standard Indian workshop manual to keep mine going. Might be worth taking an electronic copy of that new - some of manual. The Indian workshops would like a copy I'm sure.

Basically the bike is going to go wrong (mine did every day for 6 months) and you will very quickly learn how it works. You've had bikes before so no worries. It seemed that cleaning the plugs and points was a common task as was setting the valve clearances.

There was a standard Enfield toolcase that came in a plastic wallet - it did pretty much everything. I made the mistake of bringing a comprehensive set of tools and it was just unnecessary.

The workshops there are cheap. Take it in and watch them work - it's amazing what you'll soon learn.

All the best with your trip.

Matt

Err make that

3 types of Enfield,
Ones exported to foreign places (Britain, Australia, USA to name some),
Ones in India, and
ones where the engine is junked in favour of a Diesel.

The toolkit you get with a new Bullet is pretty good. If you don't get one of these I'd suggest:

On top of your various spanner sizes, a quality adjustable is useful.
A spark plug socket
A small multimeter as suggested is useful, or failing that, make yourelf a little test lamp out of a dashboard light and some wire.
Some good pliers.
Zip ties
Duct tape
Electrical tape
Spare wire and fuses
Jubilee clips
Tyre levers, puncture kit, spare tubes.

It's a good idea to have a quick look over your bike at the end of each day to make sure everything is tight.

Enfields keep going with absurd mechanical failures, it seems to be electrical failures that stop them altogether quite often. Enfield mechanics is often about bodging a repair, rather than fitting anew part or whatever. Hence the zip ties and tape etc!

Have fun!


Matt :)

bimbo overload
 

Read through this and tried using the link but it's not working (might be my laptop) anyhoo, me n a few other females (different forum) need an answer to the question.... spoon feeding preferred!! Literally a list (i'm 21 never owned and enfield, rtw 1st tour, but i am good with fixing classic cars) that i can give to my dad and then have him go through everything with me.
please help guys?
xxxxxx

This is what I carry for a Triumph Bonneville:

https://sites.google.com/site/threewheelbonnie/lists

Unless someone has a similar list for the Enfield you'll need to get the bike, have a look round then go shopping. One issue with the Bullet I had (2004 5-speed) was that the newer bits were metric, the big old bits Imperial. This little lot assumes it's a Sunday night in January in Northern Finland, it's way more than would be useful in Dehli on a Tuesday afternoon on a bike I'd never seen before.

You also need to decide how much you'll do yourself. To change a tube you need the wheels off (two big spanners) then the levers and tubes. These let you adjust the chain. Add a punch and a pair of pliers and a clip link and you can hopefully put a busted chain back. A multimeter, length of cable etc. is useful, but you need the right screwdrivers to get inside the headlight shell and a spanner to get the seat and tank off. To change the oil you need spanners to get the sump plugs out, the cork seal on the timing case off and the cover off the oil filter. I think with that little lot you can adjust the pushrods too (no feeler gauges required on the bullet). Beyond that....?

If you are flying out, I'd get the CD & manual from Hitchcocks, a multimeter, a box of (and if you repeat I suggested this I'll deny it! :blushing: :rofl:) Scotchlocks (which are the work of the devil and should only be used in dire emergency if chewing gum isn't available :nono:) etc. and start reading. Go shopping for as much kit as you understand and think you'll use once you have the bike. Print out and laminate the wiring diagram.

Enjoy your trip,

Andy

The tools needed will largely depend on which model you have. I have an Electra and it need lots of different size spanners, some are not common. To get the rear wheel off you need a 24mm flat ring spanner. To adjust the chain you need a 30mm ring. 18mm is used quite often and you will need that to perform a standard maintenance. I suggest you do all the servicing things you thing you might want to do, and make sure you have the tools for those jobs. For some reason there is a set of tyre levers in the bikes tool kit, but no spanner to get the wheel off. The supplied tyre levers are useless, get a pair of heavy duty ones with a good bit of leverage. I was shocked at the weight of the tools needed, being my old BMW toolkit plus the Enfields toolkit plus about double that again in weight of other tools.

thankyou for all the help so far, hopefully i'll work it out
xx

And the essential
 

And a Leatherman...

You can probably fix / bodge the job with a Leatherman most of the time - it'll be a better quality tool than most of the mechanics you hire to do the work will have... especially because it's so easy to tighten up that loose bolt which otherwise you would leave until you stopped for the night....

Tony