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lemar 26 Jun 2011 11:19

Transportation of the motorbike from Mongolia to Europe TRIP START THE 09 JULY !!!
 
Hello eveybody,

My trip is planned and I'm leaving for Mongolia on the 9 July.
But I've no solution to send back my motorcycle from Oulan bator (or other) to Europe ?
Please can you help me, if I've to turn back by land I'll maybe never reach Mongolia 'caus I've to turn back at work the 22 august.
If I can join other bike turning back by plane between the 15 and the 19 august I will be fantastic and cheaper.
Or if you can send me the direction of good transporter.

Thank you.

motoreiter 26 Jun 2011 12:40

dont know about ulan baator, but surely you could just go back to irkustk and put it on a train/truck there?

lemar 26 Jun 2011 21:08

I don't think it's so easy, because I don't speak Russian and I can enter in russia only 2 times with my visa. So this solution is impossible, I've send 4 mails to differents transporters but no answer for the moment.
If you have others solution... I've only 2 weeks before the start of the trip ...
There's a lot of people on this way, maybe someone can tell me how the will do and how much they will pay, or maybe we can send our bikes together.

Lee @ Interpreter Live 27 Jun 2011 09:07

I have shipped back from U-B before (2010) and the service from them was really good - extremely helpful indeed and cheaper than all other quotes.

Try:

Contact a very friendly and helpful lady called Mrs Baigalmaa

LANDBRIDGE LLC- INT"L FREIGHT FORWARDERS
Export manager
Nippon Center bldg,
Bayangol district 4-r khoroo,
Narnii Zam Street 461-1
Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
Phone : +976 70131305
+976 70131308
+976 70131309
+976 70131310
Fax: +976 70131306
Mobile : 976 - 99900212
E-mail :baigalmaa {<at>} landbridge [<DOT>] mn
Skype: landbridge_b
Yahoo ID: baigalaa_lu {<at>} yahoo [<DOT>] com

Ландбридж - Улс хоорондын тээвэр зууч

hope that helps and good luck!
Lee

lemar 28 Jun 2011 19:39

Hi Lee, thank you.
Your answer is really helpful 'caus I'm in contact with them and it's true that they are really cheaper than the others and I was thinking if they are good people but I see that it's ok.
Just one question, did you send by boat or airplane ?
How long did it take to receive your bike ?

Thank you.

geordy paul 11 Jul 2011 10:49

ub to europe
 
hi, we have just done exactly this.
we arranged it prior to departure from the uk. and it was very easy.
the people you need are, pan europa. contact andreas koeneg.
their agent in UB is landbridge.
then sibylle at the oasis guest house in UB who will arrange the building of your crate.(if you stay there)
all in it cost us 900euro. 700 for the shipping and 200 for the crate.
in all it took just half a day to do, although we gave sybille the bike dimensions in advance.
we turned up, the night before, crated the next morning, landbrdge came to us, collected the paperwork,and bikes, job done.
the bikes go overland to a port in china, then by sea to germany then on to the uk for us.
hope this is not too late for you.
paul.

colebatch 17 Jul 2011 11:02

Good info guys.

I have located Landbridge on the GPS maps and have placed a waypoint there on my waypoints file. I will include it in the next waypoint update.

lemar 18 Jul 2011 10:12

Hi guys, thanks for your answers.
I'm in contact with Landbridge, but the time of transport are very long, do you thing it's possible to send it by plane for less than 1500€ ?
Because 2 guys, one from Air Cargo Express and an other one, I don't remember the name, tell me to call them when I will be in Oulan Bator, because they want to see the bike before, and for example the guy from Air cargo express tell me the price for sending the bike to Bruxelles will be 1200 euros, by plane !
What do you think ? Beter to take Landbridge (long time but save) ?

geordy paul 18 Jul 2011 10:24

shipping.
 
i dont think there is the perfect answer.
a lot depends on your budget and the time you are willing to spend without your bike.
when shipping our bikes with pan-europa and landbridge we paid 700euro.
but takes upto 3months, though you could be lucky and get it back sooner. as for flying, yes its quicker, but we were quoted £2500 by james cargo. choice is yours.
paul.

Lee @ Interpreter Live 19 Jul 2011 08:46

Hi,

We sent the bikes by container and I do think it took maybe 6 - 8 weeks from memory. As far as I can remember they went by train to China and then boat back to UK. Air freight was a lot more expensive and as I was in no great rush to get the bikes the land-sea option seemed fine. I also go quotes from people like Andreas Koenig and a few others but they were invariably a lot more expensive than Landbridge.

Time v price - the eternal shipping conundrum!

All the best,
Lee

maria41 4 Nov 2013 14:02

Bumping this thread up as there are quite few people going to Mongolia next spring/summer and interested in shipping from UB (including myself!)
Very useful info in here!

crisidsto 4 Nov 2013 14:42

Some more useful info here:

Advfactory - Home

chris 4 Nov 2013 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by maria41 (Post 442519)
Bumping this thread up as there are quite few people going to Mongolia next spring/summer and interested in shipping from UB (including myself!)
Very useful info in here!

I'm in the process of trying to ship my bike from Mongolia to Germany using Paneuropa (German agent)/ Global Worldwide (Mongolia agent)/ Oasis Guesthouse. I boxed the bike in late August and now, early November, it hasn't even left Mongolia! Paneuropa is predicting all sorts of new fees (that I won't be paying...) and I foresee much more hassle and huge expense.

Please do yourself a favour and DON'T freight from (or to) Mongolia. It's all a monstrous pita.

Freight from Vladivostok is fine via Yuri Melnikov. Or from Irkutsk by train, see http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...re-train-71580

klausmong1 4 Nov 2013 16:37

Hm, I also met many people who were happy with this company.

The person which I drove to mongolia together also sent it with Pan Europa and everything ant quite OK.

But they usually wait till a container is full and in end of august there are not so much drivers anymore …..

chris 4 Nov 2013 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by klausmong1 (Post 442540)
Hm, I also met many people who were happy with this company.

The person which I drove to mongolia together also sent it with Pan Europa and everything ant quite OK.

But they usually wait till a container is full and in end of august there are not so much drivers anymore …..

A friend used Paneuropa in 2012 and was very satisfied. The problem is (in my opinion) not with Paneuropa in Germany, but with their new incompetent Mongolia agent (GW) and/or changing (in order to attract higher "earnings"/"fees"?) Mongolian Customs procedures.

Which ever way you look at it, since summer 2013 Vladivostok/Irkutsk is easier/cheaper than Ulaan Bataar.

klausmong1 4 Nov 2013 17:03

Is the new agent in the Nippon building?

I was there with my wife to help some people out this summer.
They wanted help with the customs and the procedure in the company.
My wife speaks mongolian, so she could translate.

This company seemed professional to me.

and the custom procedure was a half our work for 3 persons to get their bikes out of the passport…..
So nothing what should be a hassle…..

chris 4 Nov 2013 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by klausmong1 (Post 442545)
Is the new agent in the Nippon building?

I was there with my wife to help some people out this summer.
They wanted help with the customs and the procedure in the company.
My wife speaks mongolian, so she could translate.

This company seemed professional to me.

and the custom procedure was a half our work for 3 persons to get their bikes out of the passport…..
So nothing what should be a hassle…..

Don't know if the new agent is in the Nippon building. They were opposite a VW car dealership.

The procedure is as easy or as hard as the new Mongolian agent or "new" Mongolian Customs "rules" want to make them. I can only feed back what Paneuropa is and isn't telling me.

All I know, is I've already had to deal with a lot of bullsh!t and extra "new" expenses and am expecting more "unusual" requests for "fees" to come.

I would not recommend anyone, especially friends that I want to keep, to ship anything into or out of Mongolia.

klausmong1 4 Nov 2013 17:41

Opposite the VW dealer, yes, that is them.

Well, I wonder what happened, it was quite easy when we have been there.

I did not send my bike, i usually drive always foreword and back on my bike….

But the people with we have been there had it quite easy.

Anyway, you have problems, would be interesting if it is just you or if it ends up being a new way of making money….

chris 11 Dec 2013 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 442548)
All I know, is I've already had to deal with a lot of bullsh!t and extra "new" expenses and am expecting more "unusual" requests for "fees" to come.

I would not recommend anyone, especially friends that I want to keep, to ship anything into or out of Mongolia.

Latest news on my Honda Transalp = No news, except that the German agent has agreed that the extra new "magic" fees will not be paid by me. :smartass:

Honda shipping timeline:
1. Bike crated in late August

2. Container scheduled to leave in October

3. As per today still not left Mongolia, possibly going next week... Or not.

An aside: The previous container to mine left Mongolia 3 months late!



This year: I was also involved in getting another bike I bought (Rebadged Aprilia XChallenge) from Magadan to Europe.

1. Handed RBA to Olga at DVS tour in Magadan around 20August for journey on deck of ship to Vladivostok.

2. Transferred to container and loaded with car and 2 other bikes into container to Rotterdam (using Yuri Melnikov at Links Ltd)

3. Bike collected by me in Rotterdam on 23November (Dutch customs agent = Peet van Dam at Mainport)

= 3 months. Olga, Yuri and Peet were all competent and professional. The entire procedure ran without even the hint of a problem.

Conclusion:
You win some, you lose some.... Or... Avoid Mongolia as a shipping hub if you want to increase your winnings above a ratio of 50%

klausmong1 11 Dec 2013 19:17

And to be honest, i have to post the information from my buddy, who drove to mongolia with me and sent his bike home via Pan Europa.

I thought his BMW is already here, but it is not.

He is waiting since august (!!!!) to get his bike home.
And they tell him new storys and excuses all the time.

Maybe this is really a common problem in between.

maria41 11 Dec 2013 19:25

Hi Chris thanks for feedback.

No firm plans yet depending on which state the bikes will be when we get to UB. However if we can ride we will get to Irkutsk and get the trans Siberian from there.

If bikes disintegrate we will abandon them! The advantage of cheap eBay bought bikes ;)

Cheers

MuzToo 23 Dec 2013 03:58

Hi. I know that the bikes from : Centraal Azie Zijderoute - Motor Trails - Avontuurlijke Motorreizen
will be transported back by sambor. You will find him here on the HUBB.

In case you want to abandon your bikes in Kyrgyzstan, we will help you.... and flights to Europe are only around Euro 300.- at the moment.

CHeers

chris 11 May 2014 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris (Post 446625)
Latest news on my Honda Transalp = No news, except that the German agent has agreed that the extra new "magic" fees will not be paid by me. :smartass:

Honda shipping timeline:
1. Bike crated in late August

2. Container scheduled to leave in October

3. As per today still not left Mongolia, possibly going next week... Or not.

An aside: The previous container to mine left Mongolia 3 months late!

This bike arrived evenutally... 4.5 months late (in mid April 2014!) If you want details of which shipping agents to avoid, both in Germany and Mongolia, please post here. I will gladly provide the name.

Unloading the crate last week:
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/...62131050_o.jpg

niquedouille 19 May 2014 10:44

wow ! That was a long wait ! But you got it, that's a good thing ;)

All theses shipping your talking about are by boat, right ?

I am planning to ship my bike by plane fro ulaa baatar to bangkok, as a guy I know did it last fall and it worked out pretty well. He gave me contact of his agent, I will give you a report here.

Also, I would like to send a bag back to europe with a few stuff that I will not use for the rest of my trip (like camping gear!). What is the best way to do that ? By freight directly at the airport, or by a transporter like DHL ?

If I can ship the bike, then, I can also send the bag from bangkok, if easier and/or cheaper..


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