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colebatch 26 Apr 2012 13:57

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Originally Posted by wuming (Post 376861)
My Russian visa states that it is for "auto-tourism". When I applied, they wanted to see (and took a photocopy of...) my V5. The first question on the online visa application form was "what kind of visa do you want?" and the first choice was "auto-tourism". Got through the official visa office in Gee St. London.

OK ... times are a changing ... how long was it for?

colebatch 26 Apr 2012 16:22

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Originally Posted by wuming (Post 376955)
The visa people at Gee St. are very efficient and helpful.

Haha you must have got them on a good day ... sometimes they are pains in the butt.

uk_vette 27 Apr 2012 05:58

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Originally Posted by wuming (Post 376955)
Standard 30 days. The visa people at Gee St. are very efficient and helpful.

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Hi Wuming,

Thanks for the information.

Was that 30 days with double entry?
When you entry into Russia, that is the first day, OK ?
Then say for example you are in Russia for 10 days then you exit into Kaza (with the required Kaza visa), does the days on your Russia visa stop counting then, as you are not in Russia.
So if I am in Kaza for 10 then enter Mongolia for 10 days, what I want to know is, can I come back into Russia to get back to UK, will I still have 20 days left on my Russia visa, (ie 10 days used on first entry, then 20 days used on second entry = 30 days)

Or do the days keep on counting, so I would have no days left in Russia ?

vette

TravellingStrom 27 Apr 2012 07:13

Hi

I asked that exact same question. 30 days start from the nominated date, even if it is a double entry and while you are out of the country it still runs down. I ended up just getting the 30 days and when I exit Kaz, no going back.

You may want a business visa, but I ran out of time prior to leaving to get my visa.

Cheers
TS

colebatch 27 Apr 2012 09:01

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Originally Posted by TravellingStrom (Post 377059)
Hi

I asked that exact same question. 30 days start from the nominated date, even if it is a double entry and while you are out of the country it still runs down. I ended up just getting the 30 days and when I exit Kaz, no going back.

You may want a business visa, but I ran out of time prior to leaving to get my visa.

Cheers
TS

A Russian 30 day visa has a start date and an end date 30 days later. Its nothing to do with time in country. And nothing to do with what date you enter the country.

i.e. if it says 1st July to 30th July, then you can not be in the country before the first or after the 30th.

Nota Bene ... this is quite different from how Mongolian 30 day visas work ... which is 30 days from the date of first entry. its this date of first entry which is printed on a Mongolian tourist visa.

uk_vette 27 Apr 2012 12:58

Hello every one,

Great replies, as usual on the HUBB :thumbup1:

So, if I am planning a trip to Mongolia, I need to make sure I am back into and out of Russia before the last day on the 30 day visa.

That could be tough.
I guess one could blitz through Russia in 3 days? into Mongolia, where one could spend the "quality time" then.
Thereby allowing a few days to get back West through Russia into EU land again.
I guess total time in Mongolia could only be 20 days at most? giving an easy 5 days each way to transit Russia?

Maybe the sensible option, but a much more expensive option, is a MEBV ?

vette

colebatch 27 Apr 2012 21:19

Not sure exactly what you mean but there is NO WAY you can transit from Mongolia to the EU in 3 days or even 5 days ... The western edge of Mongolia is about 6 long days assuming everything goes well and you are riding 12 hours a day ... exiting north to Lake Baikal probably gives you about an 8 long day ride back to the EU.

I am used to riding long hard days, but anything more than that is very optimistic. And if you break down, you are screwed. You will run out of time.

The scales are vast. The speeds you will be able to do on Russian highways are limited (lots of trucks and radar cops).



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Originally Posted by uk_vette (Post 377098)
Hello every one,

Great replies, as usual on the HUBB :thumbup1:

So, if I am planning a trip to Mongolia, I need to make sure I am back into and out of Russia before the last day on the 30 day visa.

That could be tough.
I guess one could blitz through Russia in 3 days? into Mongolia, where one could spend the "quality time" then.
Thereby allowing a few days to get back West through Russia into EU land again.
I guess total time in Mongolia could only be 20 days at most? giving an easy 5 days each way to transit Russia?

Maybe the sensible option, but a much more expensive option, is a MEBV ?

vette


motoreiter 28 Apr 2012 13:31

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Originally Posted by colebatch (Post 377148)
... exiting north to Lake Baikal probably gives you about an 8 long day ride back to the EU.

Colebatch, just checking, you mean to Ulan Ude, right? The border at Mondy, near Khovsgol is closed to non-Russians/Mongolians as far as I understand, but I'd love to take that route.

colebatch 28 Apr 2012 14:06

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Originally Posted by motoreiter (Post 377199)
Colebatch, just checking, you mean to Ulan Ude, right? The border at Mondy, near Khovsgol is closed to non-Russians/Mongolians as far as I understand, but I'd love to take that route.

Yeah ... Kyakhta is the Russian entry point on the road to UU.

I heard there was talk of opening the Mondy crossing to internationals but I am yet to hear that it has actually happened.

Relating this back to the original point ... getting from Kyakhta to the EU in 8 days would be a monster performance.


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