Russia - Kazakstan - Mongolia
 

Next sommer im going to ride that route with friend , starting from Finland.
Never been any of those countries before, so here is some guestions:

We are going to use cobra m975 PMR radio phones with helmet sets. PMR phones
are legal here in europe, but whats the case there in Russia?

Going to use trangia cooking set with gas burner. Is it easy to find camping gas bottles, or should i buy multifuel burner for it?

Can i buy 130/80-17 and 90/90-21 tires from Russian motorcycle stores?..or do i have to take couple of them from home?

Obviously your route will have to be Russia - Kazakhstan - Russia - Mongolia.

Regards camping gas, I would avoid it and use a petrol stove like an MSR Dragonfly which can be refuelled anywhere..

Can't help with the other two questions...

EO

About tires - you can buy such sizes in big cities, see f.e. www.motorezina.su. where are you going to buy it?

Pmr446 is legal in Russia, no license needed.

Glad to answer to other questions, let me know through pm:D

?????? Not exactly the way to share question and answers, a forum is a public place!!

GRTZ,

JP

You right:D

About propan-butan - as a rule there is in any village market ( the most famous brend in Russia - Covea)

I found this same (?) seller: MOTOREZINA.RU - свежая моторезина по разумным ценам. motokolesa, мотоколеса, моторезина, резина для мотоциклов , and seams like they can ship tires to their partners. Barnaul would be best choice to have new tires right before Mongolia.

Still not sure about the route. We have only about 5 weeks time to ride , and total km is 15-17.000km...and that takes about 400km / day. One choice would be skip Kazakstan, and drive to Mongolia through Russia via paved roads..and that way we would have couple of days more to spend in Mongolia..but other end..Kazakstan seems to be interesting place so its hard to decide..

We are going to leave Finland as soon as possible at spring, maybe end of april.Going to be there on Mongolia about 7-9 days after that (if we go that straight route). There is going to be some river crossings etc, so is there any routes we should avoid at that time of year?

I do not think they are the same sellers.

Motorezina.ru that you found is a good reliable partner. The Owner, Dean / Denis, is a member of HUBB. his profile is here: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/members/dean-rus

Many of us, including me, have bought tyres from him and had them delivered to dealers in cities all over Russia.

Right, there are different stores.

Hard to decide what tires would be best choise. Total km is going to be about 15-17.000 and idea is to use same front all time, and going to change rear ones on the trip. Original Heidenau K60 would be good choise, but its not available anymore. Newer scout / silica models are softer than first model(i've heard), and rear tire wont last 9000km ?
Any suggestions?

What's your bike?
What Russian cities (4-5) are you going visit?

No, the scout last usually longer, and I personally would recommend them ( or similar ) for the russia ride.

Personally I will always use good Offroad tires for Mongolia.
Something like Mitas E09, TKC80 or similar...

Bike is -95 kawasaki kle, 39tkm and im "tuning"it right now for this trip..better seat,side racks etc. Trying to keep weight as low as possible. Dry weight is now about 170kg, and all gear will take 10-15kg(?)
Little bit problems with visa, i might not get multi entry visa because i havent visit there before. Not sure yet, but if thats the case, i have to take "two entry visa" and skip Kazakstan. That case route would be straight to Novosobirsk (5000km). That would be best location to change tires before Mongolia. Actually i could ride there with touring tires, and leave them to storage ( if possible ) . Then with fresh set (TKC80) to Mongolia, and back to Novosobirsk via Irkutsk(4500-6000km)..and then back to home with those touring tires..
Going to leave as soon as possible, meaby 2nd week of april, when snow has (hopefully) melt away. Is there any routes in Mongolia that i should avoid at that time off year?

As said many times, it is no problem to get a multi entry visa for the first time.

I did that too.

All you need is a good visa agency.

Asked them before you apply, if they can do that.

klausmong1,thank you :thumbup1: . I called another agency and there is no problem to have that multiple entry visa.

Hi Savorau.

Just in case you want to drop by, we have tires stock in Osh….

MuzToo Abenteuer Seidenstrasse

CHeers.

My friend had to cancel this trip, and seems like i have to go by myself.
Trying to gather some data from Mongolian routes.River crossings by myself in middle of nowhere sounds like something i dont want to try, too risky. Can i avoid those if i take center route?

Hi

Just a question, when do travel?

I am also going to Mongolia this summer.

But I will take the northern route.

What I found out, watercrossings might happen everywhere. a bridge was under construction once and so you had to cross.....

Trying to leave as soon as possible at spring. Meaby week 16 or 17. Klausmong1, what bike do you have, and when going to be there?

Here is good story about routes:
https://antoniovanderelst.wordpress....9/15/mongolia/

Ok, to early for me, I can't leave before End of June.

But the way is a lot the same :thumbup1:

last question:
I can help you with tires
just inform me about thу city where you want to change it, brand model and size. I will ship it there, it will arrive before you and wait for you.

Sounds like a good trip, we have stock of some tyres in Mongolia from Mitas and Golden Tyre so could provide some support. you can find us on facebook under MotorsportMongolia :scooter:

Do you have GT 723 rally tyre?

Travel agency messed up my visa, and i got 2 week delay..but light on the tunnel.Im going to get visa next monday. I wil start my journey at tuesday morning. Last couple of weeks have been hard tuning of bike,and it "should" be ready for anything.
Because of that visa delay, i have to go first to Kazakstan via Russia, and then back to Russia to Novosobirsk,and then to Mongolia. I will carry on set of tires , and trying to find place where i could : change tyres in Novosobirsk,leave originals to storage,and come back after 2-3 weeks and change originals back.Any ideas where it would be possible?

Back in Finland! It took about 5 weeks and 16.000km , and bike broke down 3 times :).
2nd day after leaving Finland o-ring from radiator broke and all the cooling water came out. There in Kazakstan main switch broke and there was no power output for ignition, and i had to hitchhike for truck..and in Altay i had to repair radiator blower .
Every time it was easy to get help, and locals there ( Russia-Kazakstan-Mongolia) are extrimely friendly!

Mongolia is kind of "ruff" place but number one country for enduro driving, and i think that i must take another trip there someday..highly recommended!
I took southern route..and if anyone need info about road conditions etc, i will gladly help..

Kawasaki kle is perhaps cheapest (?) bike which can handle that trip after some modifications. Yep i had bad luck with those broken parts, but its good to drive long days, and "only" 175kg weight so it can handle bad roads of Mongolia..

Now making some service, and next trip is going to be Petroskoi- Murmansk- Vayda-Guba..

Congrats on the trip :-)

My wife and me plan to do the same trip this August and I would appreciate if you can share some info about the Mongolian part.

We are on one bike, so I am very interested about the road conditions in Mongolia. We plan to go the south route, the one you took, even though we might change that decision when we come to Mongolia, if the road condition allows it.

I have got a lot of my questions answered allready here:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...a-two-up-81430

but, as you just came back from Mongolia, your experience is most valuable.

I had the doubt whether we should go with a heavy, but very comfortable street bike, or a lighter enduro, and decided for the enduro. But if the Mongolian part seems doable with the road bike....

Thanks in advance.

Mongolia is NOT doable with road bike. I cant tell anything road conditions in August, but 3 weeks ago roads were really bad because of raining.
Tsagaannuur-Khovd is easiest part.First there is asphalt, but after that you go to the mountains ( highest point of the road is about 2700m) and roads there are guite bad. My bike got some hits to the motor armour, but i could continue riding..only the sidestand switch was broken when armour was bendet.
Khovd-Altay is worst part. First there is asphalt about 100km, but after that you and your bike will SHAKE about 200km.
After Altay, there is about 100km asphalt, and after that there is Gobi desert. I liked that place..lot of tracks..camels etc. There is only one deep river crossing in southern route (Bayankhongor).
So, best and only choise is enduro bike, and with stiffer suspension spring because you are riding 2-up..

Thanks! I hope that the river near Bayankhongor will run dry in August :-)

If the roads do not get much worse than this one in Kazakhstan I would be tempted to take the R1200R, but we'll definitely leave the big bike at home, even though she took us successfully to many living and a few dead camels in the past...

Do you have any more videos of your journey?

Yep, about 90GB :) from contour helmetcam. Someday im going to do video about this trip..but havent got time right now.

Mongolia Roads
 

Gents,
The weather has been quite bad over the last few weeks and the west has been rain logged for days, so the roads are currently wet and slippery... so anyone riding this way should take a little caution... Gobi is not so bad as sand absorbs a lot of the rain, but still be careful out there.

Tyres in Mongolia
 

Hiya,
there are tyre options for you in Mongolia should that be an option for you re visa issues..
47.895627,106.917418 - https://www.facebook.com/motorsportmn